Ah crap

[KeymasterKeymaster]

eng_87 wrote:

Feels like I am home.

You’re not the first who said that. A terrific compliment to everyone.

eng_87 wrote:

She text me last night asking if it was me calling her on the landline phone, I didn’t respond, why the f~~~ would I be calling. My parting words were “i’ll text when I come to get the last of my s~~~”. Sounds like she missed me and wanted an opening to start a conversation.

THere’s one thing I’ve learned is vastly consistent about the modern female, they like as many men as possible to fill as many roles in their lives. The gay best friend to go shopping and tell her she’s fabulous. The lover to f~~~ her properly. The boyfriend to “hold” her and “always be there for her no matter what”. The Facebook dudes to “like” every goddam status update about turds in her toilet. The orbiters, to be available cry to and have waiting in the wings just in case it doesn’t work out with whoever she is banging…. and the list goes on……

Be one of those, and that’s your new name: “Justin Case”

• Just in case she gets fat
• just in case her current dick dumps her
• just in case she’s needs a date on national holidays
• Just in case no man is there to “put a ring on it” when she snaps her f~~~ing fingers.

She wouldn’t dump you if she knew it would absolute that she won’t talk to you again. They dump perfectly good guys because they think they can still keep him in their social circle, and just a text away. Never be that guy. Deny them that.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 42]

eng_87 wrote:

I guess the hard thing is adjusting to solo life again. Everything feels a bit vacant.

Hey eng_87, I’m way down the road of being solo, I couldn’t imagine giving one solitary s~~~ about a woman, I’ve seen allot of s~~~, your womster is no stranger to me, most women (99.999%) are just as cold and heartless as the womster that pulled the plug on you. You’ll be much better off once you get it into your head that women are hopeless, and a lost cause. I’m enjoying my life much more without a womonster! I hope you gain the fortitude to abstain long enough to see what life’s like without them, it’s well worth the wait! Welcome to MGTOW!

[EyeswideopenParticipant 2930]

Eng_87;

My ex wife did the exact same thing to me; one minute proclaiming I was her best friend and the love of her life, the next ending our marriage without so much as a logical grievance. It turns out their was a third party involved; I would not be surprised if this is the situation in your case. Women will usually not end an otherwise viable relationship without having someone else to swing too – this is known as monkey branching.

I too struggled with trying to apply logic to the situation – let me expedite the journey – you can’t.  You cannot understand crazy. It’s nothing you did. Trying to discern a pattern, reason, rational, is an exercise is futility. I struggled with that aspect for over a year; if I can save you some of that agony I would be thankful.

I would suggest theapy, you might find this helpful, especially if you are feeling suicidal or depressed. In conjunction with traditional treatments I have found these boards extremely helpful and supportve in rediscovering who I was before the relationship and to provide direction in my life. Like yourself, I lost my independent spirit, love for travel etc; I am slowly rediscovering who I am.

I will admit to loneliness, and longing for a loving romantic relationship; yet in today’s society that is not possible. I am not MGTOW by choice, but for survival. The likelihood of any future relationships ending or being a living nightmare, is somewhere around 90%. You have to make a choice; I choose never to allow a women to have her foot on my neck ever again. Short term physical relationships is all I will ever be able to achieve; when the biological urge strikes. To avoid baby jail, I would suggest a vasectomy with sperm storage should you decide on surrogacy in the future.

Coming to terms with the fact that loving relationships are sweet delusions is difficult, but necessary. This is our modern, global, feminist society. The society of your parents and grandparents does not exist; this is not the digital age but also the single age. You need to protect your resources for yourself. The unicorn women do not exist; if they do it is only for a short period of time. The way I see it, you can be alone with all you assets and sanity intact, or you can be alone post separation with neither.

I am not dispensing formal legal or medical advice; but this is what MGTOW means to me.

 

 

- Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

[Binary LogicParticipant 2351]

eng_87 wrote:

… I will have a s~~~ load of disposable income. I’m a simple man, good liquor, my notebook and a good cigar

Good stuff to hear! I dabbled in Cigars while in Afghan. I think the Gurkha Beast was my last one. Took a while to get through, and the finish was absolutely SUPERB. It’s definitely something I could get used to.

eng_87 wrote:

This thread has taught me one thing(in conjunction with reading the posts), is that MGTOW is not some crusade, it is not a vendetta or radical movement. It is neither about hate nor retaliatory inequality: It is about support.

Absolutely. I’m not sure where the idea originated that it was some kind of radical movement. That couldn’t be further from the truth. If anything, at it’s very core, I believe it to be a natural return to order. Ever heard the saying “Things have a way of working (balancing) themselves out.” ? It is exactly that I suppose. Things had to come to a point where the stronger of the two ‘species’ had to exert some type of limit upon which they would allow themselves to be over-ran. Anyhow, again, welcome. Hope your stay here is pleasant, and you’re future ahead bright and fulfilling.

Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...

[eng_87Participant 122]

Hey gents

 

I’m going over to the ex’s tonight, to get the last of my stuff. I need to go when the daughter is asleep so she doesnt know I have come and gone, part of the no contact thing.

Not sure how to act, being honest I want to give her a piece of my mind, but I’m thinking nothing is worth saying and should just be quiet, in and out.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

eng_87 wrote:

Not sure how to act, being honest I want to give her a piece of my mind, but I’m thinking nothing is worth saying and should just be quiet

Pity you can’t arrange to go when NEITHER of them are there…… but this is not the time for any hostility. That has passed. If she makes any gesture to “talk”, play stupid like “what?” as if thats’ funny and childish to you. If she’s the type to create a scene at a time like this, you can ask a friend to phone you at the exact time you will be there so that you can “gotta go” and make a swift exit. Or you’re “going to meet a friend for a movie and are running late” – or something like that. A good time to practice some perfect indifference. Brood when you are long out of there, not while you’re there. Generally, you’re unaffected by all of it. If anything, try and be amused by it. Anger and resentment would satisfy her too much.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[VoidraitheParticipant 477]

eng_87 wrote:

I’m going over to the ex’s tonight, to get the last of my stuff

Maybe I’m paranoid but make sure you have a second with you. A friend, just in case things go … emotional, but also to keep you from being falsly accused of stealing or worse.

[Won'tGetFooledAgainParticipant 3293]

Eyeswideopen wrote:

Eng_87; My ex wife did the exact same thing to me; one minute proclaiming I was her best friend and the love of her life, the next ending our marriage without so much as a logical grievance. It turns out their was a third party involved; I would not be surprised if this is the situation in your case. Women will usually not end an otherwise viable relationship without having someone else to swing too – this is known as monkey branching. I too struggled with trying to apply logic to the situation – let me expedite the journey – you can’t. You cannot understand crazy. It’s nothing you did. Trying to discern a pattern, reason, rational, is an exercise is futility. I struggled with that aspect for over a year; if I can save you some of that agony I would be thankful. I would suggest theapy, you might find this helpful, especially if you are feeling suicidal or depressed.

Exact same thing happened to me, and my immediate instinct when I read your story was there is somebody else involved.  Women do not leave decent men unless they think they have managed to get hold of someone more exciting.  I too tried to apply logic to the situation when my wife ended the marriage.  After about a year, the only logical conclusion I could reach is that you can’t apply logic to crazy.

For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

[EyeswideopenParticipant 2930]

Won'tGetFooledAgain wrote:

Eyeswideopen wrote:

Eng_87; My ex wife did the exact same thing to me; one minute proclaiming I was her best friend and the love of her life, the next ending our marriage without so much as a logical grievance. It turns out their was a third party involved; I would not be surprised if this is the situation in your case. Women will usually not end an otherwise viable relationship without having someone else to swing too – this is known as monkey branching. I too struggled with trying to apply logic to the situation – let me expedite the journey – you can’t. You cannot understand crazy. It’s nothing you did. Trying to discern a pattern, reason, rational, is an exercise is futility. I struggled with that aspect for over a year; if I can save you some of that agony I would be thankful. I would suggest theapy, you might find this helpful, especially if you are feeling suicidal or depressed.

Exact same thing happened to me, and my immediate instinct when I read your story was there is somebody else involved. Women do not leave decent men unless they think they have managed to get hold of someone more exciting. I too tried to apply logic to the situation when my wife ended the marriage. After about a year, the only logical conclusion I could reach is that you can’t apply logic to crazy.

It truly is a shame. 50-80 years ago we would have been considered the bed rock of society and a patriarch to envy – now we are a round-off error on some women’s happiness spreadsheet.

- Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

[under6footParticipant 20]

Welcome, your among your brothers here! Buy those cigars! I am a cigar smoker myself.

Maybe we should have a MGTOW cigar bar?

 

“Given the choice between a woman and a cigar, I will always choose the cigar.”

 

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