After a Divorce, Your Ex is Not the Person You Use to Know

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

mark wrote:

Once you own your mistakes you can grow. Now I have an extremely short fuse with women, because I know that small things lead to big problems. For instance, a woman who cries to win an argument is trouble. The first time someone does this, she is out.

Wisdom of the day!

We Germans have a saying for that:

“It’s better to have a scary ending than a scare without ending”

Or:

“Resist the beginnings”

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[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Gargamel wrote:

“Resist the beginnings”

I like that one. A profound message in 3 words. Thanks. That one will stick in my head for the remainder.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

ForeverDone wrote:

I do find it interesting that some people consider it an amicable marriage if the woman files for divorce, and the man agrees to her demands. However, when the man files or fights for his rights after she filed, it’s a bitter divorce and she’s the innocent lonesome dove.

Strange… No?

Hypocrisy and double standards are the norm in the arena of lies we call marriage.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[markParticipant 451]

ForeverDone wrote:

No doubt. However, you forget to mention the different masks a woman wears. The initial one she’s wearing may last for many years, then she changes. If you’re already married to her, you’re up s~~~s creek.

All due respect, “Expect Melanie to be Melanie”.

I have heard the “mask” excuse in the mouth of so-called abused women. “He was very good at hiding his real intentions…by the time she showed his true colors, I was already hooked”.

– If you decide to get marry and don’t lay down your rules,
– If you marry a woman without living with her beforehand at least for a year,
– If you marry a woman within months, or a couple of years, of knowing her,
– If you marry a woman and shorty she changes, and you don’t get divorced right on the spot,
…the mistake is on you.

And if you want to tell me that you were married with someone for 3 years or more, and suddenly she changed, that is only because you (not you, I am talking in figures) failed to see the signs.

[ForeverDoneParticipant 2928]

mark wrote:

ForeverDone wrote:

No doubt. However, you forget to mention the different masks a woman wears. The initial one she’s wearing may last for many years, then she changes. If you’re already married to her, you’re up s~~~s creek.

All due respect, “Expect Melanie to be Melanie”.

I have heard the “mask” excuse in the mouth of so-called abused women. “He was very good at hiding his real intentions…by the time she showed his true colors, I was already hooked”.

– If you decide to get marry and don’t lay down your rules,
– If you marry a woman without living with her beforehand at least for a year,
– If you marry a woman within months, or a couple of years, of knowing her,
– If you marry a woman and shorty she changes, and you don’t get divorced right on the spot,
…the mistake is on you.

And if you want to tell me that you were married with someone for 3 years or more, and suddenly she changed, that is only because you (not you, I am talking in figures) failed to see the signs.

Perhaps. But women are not usually that cut and dry. They can be very conniving and deceiving. Even the best of the best men who follow your suggestions can fall into the female trap.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

FrostByte wrote:

Gargamel wrote:

“Resist the beginnings”

I like that one. A profound message in 3 words. Thanks. That one will stick in my head for the remainder.

This is where it comes from:

https://www.dict.cc/?s=Wehret+den+Anf%C3%A4ngen+%5Bpopular+protest+slogan+in+Germany%5D

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Pedal, run, rowParticipant]

Ranger One wrote:

joetech wrote:

It’s when the divorce begins that you realize the person you’re divorcing is not the person you married. Sometimes you realize that the person you are divorcing is the person you always feared she truly was.

I’m pretty sure that in most cases, the woman your are divorcing is nearly exactly the person you married. It is just that women are experts at being two-faced, and you are only now seeing the real person that they truly are.

That was ultimately the conclusion I came to as well.

After telling my ex during the divorce “I don’t even recognize who you are…” and she stood there smirking, I realized it was always an act. I never knew her, not really.

[Pedal, run, rowParticipant]

mark wrote:

ForeverDone wrote:

No doubt. However, you forget to mention the different masks a woman wears. The initial one she’s wearing may last for many years, then she changes. If you’re already married to her, you’re up s~~~s creek.

All due respect, “Expect Melanie to be Melanie”.

I have heard the “mask” excuse in the mouth of so-called abused women. “He was very good at hiding his real intentions…by the time she showed his true colors, I was already hooked”.

– If you decide to get marry and don’t lay down your rules,
– If you marry a woman without living with her beforehand at least for a year,
– If you marry a woman within months, or a couple of years, of knowing her,
– If you marry a woman and shorty she changes, and you don’t get divorced right on the spot,
…the mistake is on you.

And if you want to tell me that you were married with someone for 3 years or more, and suddenly she changed, that is only because you (not you, I am talking in figures) failed to see the signs.

Have you ever been married and divorced? Because that sounds like all the same s~~~ I said before my divorce whenever men got divorced around me… They didn’t choose right, didn’t do it right, didn’t treat her right, didn’t handle her right blah, blah, blah…
It is not always so easy to just divorce a woman on the spot the first time you see things might not be perfect. The system doesn’t work for men like that.

[narwhalParticipant]

I see it as rather irrelevant. When you get married, you are supposed to be ‘as one’, and whether you really believe that or not, it happens to an extent anyway. You are emotionally attached to this person.

When you divorced, you should…you have to, mentally kill off that person that was attached to you. I don’t mean performing some violent act in your head, but the woman you married to can’t exist anymore. It’s effectively no different then your grandmother that passed away, your wife is gone.

So is my ex the same person I used to know? It’s impossible, since my wife is gone. I’m quite serious about that. I don’t care if her behavior changed, positive or negative, or stayed exactly the same.

This woman who looks like her is someone else as far as I’m concerned. Whatever feelings I had for my wife doesn’t carry over to that woman. In fact, that woman doesn’t get the benefit of me ever developing an emotional connection to her whatsoever, due to the nature of our current relationship.

And for the record, the husband I was is dead and gone as well. I have no obligation or intention of behaving in the same way that that guy behaved. I am free.

Ok. Then do it.

[ForeverDoneParticipant 2928]

Pedal, run, row wrote:

Ranger One wrote:

joetech wrote:

It’s when the divorce begins that you realize the person you’re divorcing is not the person you married. Sometimes you realize that the person you are divorcing is the person you always feared she truly was.

I’m pretty sure that in most cases, the woman your are divorcing is nearly exactly the person you married. It is just that women are experts at being two-faced, and you are only now seeing the real person that they truly are.

That was ultimately the conclusion I came to as well.

After telling my ex during the divorce “I don’t even recognize who you are…” and she stood there smirking, I realized it was always an act. I never knew her, not really.

Similar experience. You are not alone. I think all modern women are like that. They put on this mask that their partner/spouse likes, and keeps it on until it cracks and the real facade shows through. By then, it’s usually too late either with offspring or marriage. Then, the man is usually f~~~ed.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

You never meet who she really is until she divorces you.

All men who marry, marry a lie.

[ForeverDoneParticipant 2928]

sidecar wrote:

You never meet who she really is until she divorces you.

All men who marry, marry a lie.

Complete lie might be a stretch. Well, at least in my case. My s~~~ was laid out BEFORE engagement and marriage. I just feel my ex-wife (and others) feel yea, I can change him. People cannot change people. The only person who can change one’s self, is that person. Most women have not grasped this concept yet.

[markParticipant 451]

Pedal, run, row wrote:

Have you ever been married and divorced? Because that sounds like all the same s~~~ I said before my divorce whenever men got divorced around me… They didn’t choose right, didn’t do it right, didn’t treat her right, didn’t handle her right blah, blah, blah…
It is not always so easy to just divorce a woman on the spot the first time you see things might not be perfect. The system doesn’t work for men like that.

As always, my criticism comes from a place of love, so don´t take it personal. I am here to learn, and to teach.

1. Yes, I have been married. BUT that is irrelevant. Having experience something does not give one the authority over others who haven´t, because it does not imply necessarily that you have learned anything. My own mother has been married for over 40 years and learned precious little about men.

2. An argument is never won by introducing untrue statements, even if those are camouflaged. Your sentence “They didn’t choose right, didn’t do it right, didn’t treat her right, didn’t handle her right blah, blah, blah” is a falsehood, because the only thing I mentioned was the first part “they didn´t choose right”. All the rest, that you try to introduce, was NEVER written by me. I has been written by you in an attempt to revoke precisely what you have written, but as if it was written by me.

I would appreciate if you focus on my words, not yours, to make a criticism.

3. Unless you got married with a shotgun to your head, my sentence “they didn´t choose right” is 100% true and accurate. So, show me the problem with it.

4. Once again you retort to falsehood to make a point. Did I write anywhere that divorce was or is easy? Nope. You did. And you debunk the words you wrote. Good for you!

But in fact divorce is easy when is done early. And in fact my whole point is that you should read the signs and, in most cases, not even get married. Finally, divorcing is not easy, but is worth it.

Cheers and let´s argue man to man, without personal hatred 🙂

[ForeverDoneParticipant 2928]

All in all, I think the emotional cost is higher, even if caught early in a marriage than financial. What is something we all invest in, but can never get back? Time. Those years of fake or sham memories to hook you in to the woman she protrays all of a sudden changes and the real woman appears. Heaven forbid if a man procreates with her. The emotional toll is very hard. I know in my and many men I’ve talked to, they keep on going over the woulda, shoulda coulda in their minds. Hence the reason why I say the emotional pain and cost is significantly higher than financial in most cases. You can earn back money and things. You cannot earn back time.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Pedal, run, row wrote:

Ranger One wrote:

joetech wrote:

It’s when the divorce begins that you realize the person you’re divorcing is not the person you married. Sometimes you realize that the person you are divorcing is the person you always feared she truly was.

I’m pretty sure that in most cases, the woman your are divorcing is nearly exactly the person you married. It is just that women are experts at being two-faced, and you are only now seeing the real person that they truly are.

That was ultimately the conclusion I came to as well.

After telling my ex during the divorce “I don’t even recognize who you are…” and she stood there smirking, I realized it was always an act. I never knew her, not really.

You never knew her, because there was no person to know. Just an animal with all of its animal instincts made up to look human, sort of like a chimpanzee in a dress.

Everything is fake. Fake t~~~ or bra. Fake skin with makeup on. Fake hair with dyes. Fake perfume scent since they smell like either sewer or a bloody sewer without it. Sometimes fake eye color with contacts. Fake height with high-heeled shoes. Fake virginity, because they’ll lie about that.

Fake tears and fake love.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Ranger One wrote:

Pedal, run, row wrote:

Ranger One wrote:

joetech wrote:

It’s when the divorce begins that you realize the person you’re divorcing is not the person you married. Sometimes you realize that the person you are divorcing is the person you always feared she truly was.

I’m pretty sure that in most cases, the woman your are divorcing is nearly exactly the person you married. It is just that women are experts at being two-faced, and you are only now seeing the real person that they truly are.

That was ultimately the conclusion I came to as well.

After telling my ex during the divorce “I don’t even recognize who you are…” and she stood there smirking, I realized it was always an act. I never knew her, not really.

You never knew her, because there was no person to know. Just an animal with all of its animal instincts made up to look human, sort of like a chimpanzee in a dress.

Everything is fake. Fake t~~~ or bra. Fake skin with makeup on. Fake hair with dyes. Fake perfume scent since they smell like either sewer or a bloody sewer without it. Sometimes fake eye color with contacts. Fake height with high-heeled shoes. Fake virginity, because they’ll lie about that.

Fake tears and fake love. A blowup doll is more real than most women and at least it won’t take your s~~~ and call the cops on you.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

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