Advice from business assocaite – never get married!

[MichaelSpectator 544]

My business associate:

1) Self made millionare over 30+ years. Started his small business in the 1980’s from “a rented broom closet”. Employs 20 people full time today plus IC’s and vendors.

2) This was his second marriage. Wife quit her job shortly after they married and NEVER WORKED DURING THE MARRIAGE. Married 11 years. She traveled, shopped, parented her son, played with friends, wine tasted and so on. She is 43. He is mid 50’s.

3) Wife initiated divorce. Reason cited in divorce papers: “irreconcilable differences”. Reasons she gave him during raging arguments: he “works too much” and has a result they have “drifted apart” and “she doesn’t love me anymore”.

4) Judge gave wife and bastard son his house in Newport Beach that he bought during the 90’s (before the huge New Port Beach Real Estate boom). Judge reasoned he never paid current market value the mortgage is free and clear so he’s only “out” the money he paid 20 years ago! And get this – he must continue to pay property taxes (since the dumb bitch cannot afford them) equal from date of marriage or until she sells it whichever comes first. That means she lives in his house until his payments stop or she sells it ASAP and takes the money now. The sale of his house alone makes her an instant millionare set for life.

5) Wife gets 1/3 of his private company stock because she’s listed her on accounting records as a VP/corporate officer for tax purposes. Why he did this is a mystery to me. He currently owns 100% of the shares but she wants the 33% cash equivalent “now now now”. There will be layoffs as a result of this divorce.

6) Must pay child support on her bastard son until he turns 18 (a few more years).

7) Alimony payments have been undecided at this time. Judge has not ruled yet.

He lives in small rented condo now. He is trying to balance his company with his ex-wife’s lawyers liquidation demands but there is a deadline. 🙁

All he has for 30+ years of work is 2/3 of his company and a used Bently that needs a new radiator.

No telling how agreeing/assigning share values to her 33% and giving her the cash in a buyback will effect his company. It could very well result in him losing the company he founded in a forced sale.

All of this…… for falling in love and marrying a hot single mother…. And he got what? A decade or less of sex?

Am at a loss for words. This is just INSANE…

P.S. Moderator I put this in the wrong box. This should be in MGTOW central or marriage and divorce right? I tried to copy paste it there but it won’t let me.

[HitmanParticipant]

Courts raping men. Big business.

[WhackerGuy2030Participant 999]

That’s a “Slam my nuts in the door” moment. When I hear a story like that, it reminds me it’d be easier to walk over to the door and close it on my testicles.

[WhackerGuy2030Participant 999]

I used to head up a hobby sized joint venture investing in tax lien certificates. I had four partners with me on it. The biggest it ever got was about $35,000 total. But the accounts for the venture were in my name. I had used this very excuse as to why I couldn’t get married to the chick I was dating without a pre-nup.

Now all the being said, when I told her pre-nup, it’s quickly ended after that. Seems moving the cheese made her lose interest in me.

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

All men need to print this out, enlarge it and post it on the refrigerator to be read every morning. The risks are just not worth it. A man works his ass off, builds a successful business and some c~~~ and her lawyer play the system and cash out. Sickening. One day when enough men wake up….marriage will be a forgotten ritual that only the truly insane will enter. Until that day we must remain free of romantic entanglements with women. And never, ever get the state involved with your relationships. Period.

[Wolf redpillmanSpectator 1658]

Anyone who’s gets married theses days is a complete idiot there’s plenty of information out there that’s shows marriages is a bad deal for men ,i even troll.on wedding.videos.on.you tube at thoses people.promoting marriages and.of courses most of them are women’s and 2 or 3 manginas wimp who let their wife control them and treat them.like doormat

[KeithParticipant 482]

Reason #9,123,659,411 why I am blissfully single, now and forever.

ONCE UPON A TIME there was a man who never found a wife and he lived happily ever after. The End.

[GrumpyParticipant]

add never cohabit or allow “interdependence/ interdependent relationship” to be exhibited .

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[Won'tGetFooledAgainParticipant 3293]

Michael wrote:

My business associate:

2) This was his second marriage. Wife quit her job shortly after they married and NEVER WORKED DURING THE MARRIAGE. Married 11 years. She traveled, shopped, parented her son, played with friends, wine tasted and so on. She is 43. He is mid 50’s.

3) Wife initiated divorce. Reason cited in divorce papers: “irreconcilable differences”. Reasons she gave him during raging arguments: he “works too much” and has a result they have “drifted apart” and “she doesn’t love me anymore”.
All of this…… for falling in love and marrying a hot single mother…. And he got what? A decade or less of sex?

I hope you don’t mind but I have highlighted the parts which I think are key to this divorce. I am assuming she is/was pretty hot hence why he married her in the first place? Firstly she is 43 so probably only has a couple of more years before she hits the wall hard and becomes anonymous. He let her stay at home and do nothing for 11 years and the age old phrase “No good deed goes unpunished” is true in this instance. The more you do for a woman the less she respects you so this is where the “works too much” and “she doesn’t love me anymore” excuses are coming from.

As for a decade or less of sex I would guess she hasn’t had sex with him in a long time. Lets be honest she has no interest in having sex with a mid 50’s guy, she is lusting after the late 20’s early 30’s guys and is planning on getting f~~~ed hard by them soon (if she isn’t getting f~~~ed by them already)

So basically she wants to get back on the c~~~ carousel and has realised that she can get rid of the boring old husband who she has no respect for and start getting some younger c~~~ that she craves. As a bonus she can keep the lifestyle she already has with the added bonus of the excitement of new younger c~~~.

Win/Win for her. Lets be honest this was her gameplan from the day she met him.

For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

Why are rich men so stupid? You can bang the chick regardless because of your wealth but noooooo,you have to anchor her to your assets. We men are praised as being logical mammals,but I just dont get how this one slip up, you stick your c~~~ in the grinder! I just dont get it,I knew marriage was a s~~~ty deal since I was 16 y/o,checks and balances….

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[MichaelSpectator 544]

Not sure but it’s amazing the number of higher income men I’ve met/know/heard of that lost everything in divorce to a vindictive ex-wife. It’s too bad they don’t have a section for these stories here.

I was always told that in CA any marriage lasting over 10 years is alimony payments for life. In his case he thinks the judge is going to roll the alimony into paying her property tax and end it or reinstate it.

The thing is in divorce assets are supposed to be separated free and clear. How can you force a man to pay his ex wife’s car payments, credit card bills or in this case property taxes and still be clear of the asset? Seems you would have a legal claim against that asset at a later date. Makes no sense.

Since alimony is on the way out I’m wondering if the courts are trying to keep it alive by calling it something else. Like asset support or something.

They are also clearly taking the position that a single Mom and her kid lives with you eventually the kid is yours from a legal point of view. So you may be forced to pay for child support for a kid that’s not even yours!

I heard about this several years ago but did not believe they would actually start enforcing this or building on it.

Also eventually it seems as men continue to stop getting married the attorney’s and judges organizations will start campaigning for a punishment for men refusing to sign up for marriage. Treating you like your married by re-defining marriage to include living together etc.

[WhackerGuy2030Participant 999]

That already exists. It’s called common law marriage.

[MichaelSpectator 544]

WhackerGuy2030 wrote:

That already exists. It’s called common law marriage.

I’m well aware. However, common law marriage takes up to 20 years minimum to be enforceable in most jurisdictions correct?

I was referring to you and your girlfriend living together for 4 years and being treated as a married couple.

Or living with a single mother for 4 years, and being seen as a legal surrogate father responsible for child support payments.

Apologies for the confusion.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Michael wrote:

Not sure but it’s amazing the number of higher income men I’ve met/know/heard of that lost everything in divorce to a vindictive ex-wife. It’s too bad they don’t have a section for these stories here.

Oh yeah…I work with quite a few people making in the 130-180k range, and the divorce stories I’ve gotten from the divorced guys are insane! Literally every one of them lost at a minimum the house and their entire 401k. Ones that had other significant assets like other properties, significant amounts of cash or stock, and cars got f~~~ed out of some of that as well. Additionally, their exes loved to run up debt after the divorce was imminent but before anything was settled, and they got stuck with the bulk of the debts.

I just couldn’t imagine going into a marriage in my 30s thinking I’m doing good in life earning a nice wage, living in a nice house, saving for retirement, etc, and then coming out of a divorce in my 40s literally worse off than I was 10+ years earlier even though between those two events I’d continued to work, earn a nice wage, and try to be smart with my money just to get f~~~ed over by some c~~~ and a s~~~ty legal system.

[KeithParticipant 482]

WhackerGuy2030 wrote:

That already exists. It’s called common law marriage.

Michigan and some other states Do not Recognize common law marriage. You have to actually get married in order to be married in the eyes of the law.

ONCE UPON A TIME there was a man who never found a wife and he lived happily ever after. The End.

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

His only hope is to demonstrate that paying everything up front will cost people their jobs. Shift the argument so that the onus is on her to prove why she needs it all now.

I was the controller for a company/guy in the exact same position. It worked for us. We were allowed to pay in installments. This was Ontario Canada.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[OldBillParticipant]

Michael wrote:

I’m well aware. However, common law marriage takes up to 20 years minimum to be enforceable in most jurisdictions correct?

No. The time period in question varies considerably between nations and even between the states and provinces which make up the nation in question. In Canada, Ontario requires three years, Nova Scotia requires only two, New Brunswick requires three years or a child, and British Columbia has discussed dropping the time requirement to 6 months. In the US, Alabama requires 265 days while states like Rhode Island and Texas have no time requirement.

As Keith noted, there is also the case of some states and provinces in a nation allowing common law marriages while others in the same nation do not. However, while only 9 US states (and DC) have specific common law statutes, the full faith and credit clause of the US Constitution means that a common law marriage legally contracted in state which allows it must be honored by other states even if their statutes don’t allow for common law marriage.

There are also several “common law lite” statutes on the books. New Hampshire, for example, allows common law only in questions of probate.

Finally, in the Anglosphere at least, stated intent by both parties is a requirement. A girlfriend cannot live with long enough to trigger whatever time requirement applies and claim a common law marriage IF you continually stated during that period that you have no intention to marry her.

It should be clear now that men need to investigate the laws in their particular jurisdiction regarding common law marriage. The law between nations and between the provinces and states which make up many nations vary too widely for one description or metric to cover all cases.

Finally, men to be aware that the statutes concerning common law marriages are in flux everywhere. Thanks to the growing “sexodus” and “marriage strike”, women and their allies in government are busily crafting more fugitive slave laws. As I mentioned earlier, British Columbia is serious considering dropping it’s the common law time requirement to six months. Other states and provinces are dusting off old laws, writing new ones, and – most importantly – stepping up enforcement.

If you’re still foolish enough to cohabitate with a woman, you need to know what laws apply where you live.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[bomwaParticipant 488]

If a man transfers assets to his children, can the court order them to be given to the wife in case of divorce?

Say he set up a trust where the children are the sole beneficiaries. Then, whenever the man acquires an asset or saves up a certain amount of money he transfers it into that trust. Would the wife ever be able to get her hands on the assets in the trust?

[WhackerGuy2030Participant 999]

That’s a great question. I bet it can at least get taken to court.

[AttonParticipant]

Just adopt a kid

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

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