Advice for a young man who has nothing to lose and nothing?

[FreeGhostSpectator 318]

I express my gratitude to the older gentlemen on this site that have helped me tremendously to see further though the deceptive lies of females, yet I am struggling to find purpose without attempting to find a woman. I’ve witnessed first hand that searching for an American woman is like digging your own grave at 30, so what other avenues do I have? I will admit, that I am decently happy now in my late 20’s, yet I know that statistics are greatly against me in my quest to find a decent woman. Anyways, thanks for all the support on here men, your efforts are more meaningful than you may be aware of. Thanks in advance.

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

Hi Free Ghost,

This is my MGTOW anthem song.

To the contrary, if I may be so bold, you stand to lose more than you realize. Late 20’s?! I am closing in on 50 in 3 yrs. F~~~ing 50!
Imagine yourself 25 years from now, being about my age. No, seriously, imagine you wasting all that time like I did. Imagine further still, making a post then of how to pick up the pieces of my life & try to ensure some kind of stability & future for yourself, after having all those years be wasted & in vain.

Not to mention all the resources it costs you for all those years. I am sitting here being a living testament to that very scenario, and I have about 14 years to go to pay f~~~ing child support on top of it. Granted, it’s not much per month, but it could have been far worse. Don’t be me! Trust me, you will regret it & you will think back over all those years & realize you had way more to lose than you ever imagined.

You could get rental property, buy a house, a career, f~~~…the sky is the limit for you, if you can avoid the bulls~~~ of the modern day feminazi female & false rape charges, etc., that they are known for doing, when they f~~~ing feel like it. The law backs them up too, unless you have ironclad evidence & proof of your innocence. Rest assured, you will have to be prepared to PROVE that you in fact are innocent, unless she totally f~~~s herself out of credibility.

You can grab life by the throat….or, wind up being me & losing more than you ever dreamed of….

One of those main things being TIME.

[FreeGhostSpectator 318]

Thanks MGTOW AGE – you seem a like a very strong individual that is maintaining the monotony in your life better than you may feel yourself. I look up to men like you, like my uncle that got his child stolen from him from a documented drug addicted women. I hope you have a relationship with your child, you seem like a caring/sincere individual and a good father.

[Anonymous 29]

FreeGhost wrote:

I express my gratitude to the older gentlemen on this site that have helped me tremendously to see further though the deceptive lies of females, yet I am struggling to find purpose without attempting to find a woman. I’ve witnessed first hand that searching for an American woman is like digging your own grave at 30, so what other avenues do I have? I will admit, that I am decently happy now in my late 20’s, yet I know that statistics are greatly against me in my quest to find a decent woman. Anyways, thanks for all the support on here men, your efforts are more meaningful than you may be aware of. Thanks in advance.

This is short rough and ready without any window dressing.
1 If you are itching for a f~~~, get a rental pussy and pay for it. No muss no fuss and no obligation.
2 If you want something more steady, make sure its on your terms, if not certain refer to number 1
3 If you want something with more emotional content refer to number 4.
4 Get married and say goodbye to option 1 & 2 , your money and you sanity.

[FreeGhostSpectator 318]

Unfortunately, I agree entirely with your post. Thanks for the response sir.

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

FreeGhost wrote:

yet I am struggling to find purpose without attempting to find a woman.

Are you trying to find purpose or passion?

I have to be honest. My marriage provided no passion or meaning. You’re a young man. If you are looking for excitement then go places and do things. If you are looking for meaning, then pick a vocation, hobby, charity, or spiritual endeavor. For me, the concept of creating something from nothing keeps me awake at night as I sketch plans in my head. I woke this morning designing alcohol stoves in my dreams, and I have no f@#$ing idea why. I also volunteer my time with other people my age and experience.

If you’re looking for a commitment, then commit to not selling yourself short. I have to be honest, It’s the hardest thing you will ever do.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Great responses. I too spent a fortune chasing the golden vagina. I probably could have retired in my 40’s were it not for the mistakes I made. Probably cost 1m. Not to mention the drama and wasted time. The best day of my life was walking away.
It’s ok to care about people, but watch out for serious relationships – the ladies will play you like a violin. And never, never , never, get married. Get a hobby that involves other people (I gravitate towards sailing and golf). Nobody loves you like your dog. Get yourself free and stay free.

[FreeGhostSpectator 318]

Soldier – Thanks for your response. I have many hobbies that occupy my time, fishing, work, video games occasionally, the internet, etc, yet it seems I have an innate desire to want a woman to protect. It seems this is the major flaw with males, the desire to want to be in the aid of females for mating purposes. Defying biology is a difficult proposition. Trust me, I haven;’t done anything too stupid yet.

[FreeGhostSpectator 318]

Stealthy, thanks for the response I am already a thinker being an INTP (introverted, intuitive, thinking perceiver). I just feel I am biologically programmed to want to care for a woman and have children. Fortunately I have acted rationally enough until now to avert many potential disasters. completely understand how men don’t even own a “short side of the stick”, yet I feel a void in my life.

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

FreeGhost wrote:

Thanks MGTOW AGE – you seem a like a very strong individual that is maintaining the monotony in your life better than you may feel yourself. I look up to men like you, like my uncle that got his child stolen from him from a documented drug addicted women. I hope you have a relationship with your child, you seem like a caring/sincere individual and a good father.

Thank you bro., I just do what I can with where I am now in my life. I get so inspired by young men such as yourself. You are much wiser than I ever dreamed of in my youth. Sorry to hear that about your uncle, and yeah, not the same scenario, but I suffered his fate on not having my son. I have the good fortune of having & raising my daughter, did my best to be a good dad. think I did alright, all things considered.

FreeGhost wrote:

yet I feel a void in my life.

This speaks volumes to me. I wanted my soul mate so f~~~ing bad. Hence, why I spent so many years looking & trying to find her. She is only in my head. It is one of the hardest things to come to grips with, Especially being in your youth with the hormones raging off the damn charts.

I had the void issue for a long time….and the only thing that ever helped me, was to fill it with myself, instead of a phantom woman. How & what you fill it with is up to you sir. If you are going to go for relations and emotionally investing yourself with a female, make sure you keep your wits about you and never live with them, let alone marriage.

I had to stop doing the inner struggle within myself, to win the fight.

[FreeGhostSpectator 318]

Stealthy – wise man you are. Thanks for all your advice, I will definitely pick up more hobbies.

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

Women, marriage, kids, child support, divorce, the debt of the f~~~ing Disney Dream vacation nightmare, in-laws,
withheld sex, shaming, a messy house, the TV warmer than the stove… guys… add your take here for our new brother….

Along with everything else you said Stealthy, I think you covered it all bro. Unless we want to delve into all the arguing, fighting & false accusations & having s~~~ go to court & dragging you & your name through the gates of hell.

[FreeGhostSpectator 318]

Why the hell was I born in the worst era for dating women ever? damnit. Mgtow age, you are right, I must stay the course, yet I look for an exit strategy. Any signs of hope peering from the fumes. My cousin married a Ukranian woman, I feel she will become Americanized and get torched. My so called “wisomed” via the comments here has led family members to tell me to “man up”. When a decent woman shows up, I will “man up”. Unfortunately, I am staring the worst women in human history in the eye and looking for companionship. Hope all is well with you. The legal system will obviously limit your impact as a father and husband (if you chose that fate). Only so much you can do, but the best is worthy of complete admiration in my book.

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

FreeGhost wrote:

Why the hell was I born in the worst era for dating women ever? damnit.

It’s a bloody raw f~~~ing deal, to put it mildly.

FreeGhost wrote:

has led family members to tell me to “man up”. When a decent woman shows up, I will “man up”.

#1 calling card for shaming us real men.
F~~~ manning up, I would rather be my own man doing my own thing, going my own way.

FreeGhost wrote:

The legal system will obviously limit your impact as a father and husband (if you chose that fate).

Or, worse case scenario…f~~~ing end it. Just sayin’

FreeGhost wrote:

Mgtow age, you are right, I must stay the course, yet I look for an exit strategy.

Hopefully, you will come to the same conclusion on the exit strategy, and not enter that nightmare in the first place.

FreeGhost wrote:

Only so much you can do, but the best is worthy of complete admiration in my book.

I have no words. I have made it public knowledge here, on more than one occasion, that I get choked up at times…

This is one of them.

Cheers brother,
We are all here for each other

[FreeGhostSpectator 318]

Thanks guys, I can see much of the bs in front of me considering the tsunami like wave of third wave feminism, yet the advice is quite helpful I have dealt with a lot of female bs, yet most likely not as much as most men on here have suffered. The advice here is quite inspirational and I want to thank the contributors here for it. Let the brotherhood continue burning bright.

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

At that age… you just cannot put up with the drama, fights and other s~~~ our wise brother just mentioned.

That is some high praise coming from you bro. I always think the same thing about you, when I read your posts.
Thumbs up to you, just giving back the wisdom I get from being here.
I sit in awe at how much more clarity I have now, just in the few months I have been here, and I have everyone on this site to thank for that.
Thank you for the compliment Stealthy, and as I have told you before, you inspire me more than you know.

Cheers good sir.

[Anonymous 5]

So while not full mgtow..

You’re about as hard core MGTOW as they come. You’ve set me straight many times.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

My current state is married…. nearly 30 years…

Stealth how the hell are you gonna try and maneuver out of that? Man I think the courts would try and make you pay lifetime alimony for that length of time. Keep us updated,you have made great post that helped me since I joined this site,but man im concerned because of the length of the marriage.

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[Anonymous 5]

FreeGhost wrote:

Why the hell was I born in the worst era for dating women ever?

You’re sort of right there, but women have always been the same.
Google the PDF of “Anatomy of Female Power”. It’s a quick read and it’ll show that nothing has changed since the beginning of human time except “The Dating” part.
Even Sandman gave some insight into this about 12 months back, when he told how his 94 year old “Uncle”, who was/is a bachelor for life described women in the 1930’s as being angels before marriage but disgracefully behaved once married (contrary to the “perfect 50’s housewife” myth). The old man couldn’t believe how disgracefully behaved and entitled women are today BEFORE marriage as well.

I think we all know that feeling about wanting to be protectors and providers, but in a millennial western world it’s an instinct that will enable females to sociopathically exploit and abuse us using sex, shame and the state to control and punish. At best, the sex is very mechanical once you’re married and contrary to women’s claims, it’s not a “joining of the souls or a cosmic experience. They’ll give it out like carrots or with-hold it for punishment.. You’ll eventually realise, with the brilliance of hindsight, they were extremely manipulative with sex from the very start.

There’s nothing quite like NAWALT sex and companionship. It’s the ultimate heroin, but you’ll pay a horrific price for getting hooked. The moment you’re possessed the whole mindset of the relationship changes, from then on, you’re just a resource, an accessory.

To put things in their real perspective, you’re in the luckiest era ever, because you can see how women really are,,,,,,before you buy.

[RoyDalParticipant]

@freeghost,

I discovered how little I need in the way of material things; what I’ve got will not fill a typical surburban single family house. This discovery was at the end of my blue pill days, and it helped push me into red pill land. I am addicted to the conveniences of 21st century indoor living, but I could do without if necessary. For example, those men living in pickup bed campers in Walmart parking lots. They get by, and so could we all if needed.

My material needs are met largely through collecting rent from the properties I acquired during my corporate drone days. I spent my surplus income on real estate instead of bling and pussy. (Well, most of it. I’m not made of wood, but I did spring a woody and stuck it someplace warm a time or three.)

Hope this helps.

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