Accept Reality and Adapt

[black_knightParticipant 2602]

I’ve never adapted (no smartphones, no social media, no mortgage, wife, or children, don’t chase ‘the dream’, don’t do Christmas, or mother’s day, or any of the prescribed social bulls~~~) because to adapt is to lose one’s ‘self’ for the sake of something, or someone higher. In my life, I am highest. I do what I want to do, what satisfies me (provided I don’t knowingly and intentionally hurt others).

Having and maintaining a sense of self at all costs is, in my opinion, the ultimate sovreign act, and therefore the most spiritually satisfying.

Take that as you will. I’m either a maladapted deluded idiot, or a strong minded sovreign man, and I don’t care either way whether anybody thinks I’m one or the other.

[TwistParticipant]

Ever5 wrote:

But the man wanted to feel “needed”. So he stuck around, he stuck around in hopes of feeling important/significant in the eyes of this woman, this weight and burden.

Not just in the eyes of the woman, but in the eyes of community, of society. But these expectations have been dashed just as the “woman” ones have been, hence zero upside to such effort/sacrifice.

Want to feel wanted/needed? Simple. Get a dog.

Want to be happy? Reorder your expectations via NFG.

Want to be optimistic for the future? Pray to the almighty asteroid.

Ever5 – nice writing Brother. I certainly appreciate the effort that you put into this.

[Ever5Participant 1008]

Hey thanks for the compliments guys.

Usually when I write something, it’s something I’ve just learned or am still learning. This one is hitting me pretty hard. I had a lot of weird dreams last night and went to sleep with emotions running hardcore. But I feel this might be the “root”, and once it’s dissolved, I’ll be free.

I had heard Stardusk talk about this idea of male mother need a while back, whenever I first got into MGTOW material. But I guess it never really hit me until yesterday, after having a conversation with this guy at the gym and everything started to click together. I might listen to that one again, see if anything new clicks.

I think this also plays into sexuality, sexual kinks.

I know women get extremely turned on by men they feel protected by, or seeing him handle a dangerous situation. However, in today’s society, there really is no real threat. You might go through one experience in your whole life, more likely never, unless you have a career in something dangerous.

Back in the day, if you were out in the wilderness and a bear came out and was trying to eat your food, and you went out and killed the bear, I’m pretty confident the woman would be extremely turned on.

I think men are turned on by the idea of being needed, sexually turned on. However, being modern society, that desire is highly destructive. I know for me, it molded itself into captain save a ho behavior. I’d find myself dating women that had depression or a difficult life, and it was always a losing game. On top of that, attractive women that seemed perfectly happy, doing OK in life, they’d be interested in me, and I’d walk away. I’d walk away from women that wouldn’t be a “complete” burden, as in nothing positive such as a positive conversation. The thing is, playing captain save a ho, I still wasn’t ever needed. It’s hard to describe this, because from where I am now, I can see how completely irrational my behavior was, it was running in the subconscious. I wasn’t consciously aware of what I was doing and why.

I can feel it dissolving. It’s very much a big let down. The idea of being perceived as important/significant in the eyes of an attractive woman, to be legitimately needed. And finally realizing, that is never going to happen. And yeah, that idea in itself is quite strange. Looking at it logically, being consciously aware of it now, I can see how it’s unhealthy. But it’s like a kink, a sexual fantasy, that is unhealthy, detrimental and completely unrealistic.

At the same time, there’s so much freedom in it. I can look back, the majority of my decisions in life were based on this idea, how can I be perceived as important/significant in the eyes of an attractive woman. Now, I’m free to be what I used to perceive as a loser, to live in the moment, commit to nothing, prepare for nothing, etc., etc. And that’s exciting, and that opens up a lot of doors, and releases a lot of inhibitions, fears, shame, guilt, for stepping into a more carefree and selfish state of being.

And also reaching a level of reciprocity. In the old mindset, it was always a losing game. It could never be anything other than a losing game because women will never need me, and thus will never reciprocate by giving me this feeling of being needed/significant/important. The result of that, I perceive, will be more positive interactions, not only with women, but also with men. Just overall, I think once this is finally dissolved, removed from my subconscious, my life is going to be a lot better.

Truth has no place to live in the mind of a woman.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

Great post.
I think that MGTOW could be much happier, and also more effective, if we would stop pretending that, generally, women need men: generally speaking, women don’t need men, and we aren’t “punishing” them by walking away. We’re doing it because it brings real, tangible, benefits to ourselves: bank balance, in example – that’s the easier to prove, since numbers don’t lie. Then there’s having more free time, a more relaxed lifestyle, and much, much more.

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[KeymasterKeymaster]

Ever5 wrote:

Accept Reality and Adapt

Relationships are dangerous grounds. Her biology wants to kill attraction to you & make you a provider so she can cheat while ovulating.

A profound truth when I realized women are constantly trying to emasculate the boyfriend / husband — so she can DIS-qualify him.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 3]

Ever5 wrote:

However, in today’s society, there really is no real threat. You might go through one experience in your whole life, more likely never, unless you have a career in something dangerous.

What planet do you live on?

Eric Lauder wrote:

Then there’s having more free time, a more relaxed lifestyle, and much, much more.

Absolutely. I read every post on this thread. i am not going to offer a critique b/c there is a lot here that I can agree with. however, take a look around you, no matter where you are ( except in the wilderness & even then you might see a trail or lean to ) every thing you see was built by men & to say women don’t need men even on an emotional level is ludicrous. take men out of the picture & everything disappears. And I have to say this: you place to much emphasis on an individuals past & you play around too much with ” need ” I just can’t buy in to the whole thing. I truly respect your effort behind this post, you indeed have shown a lot of your personal beliefs & thinking. I commend you for it. I would suggest take up a meditation practice & clarity,simplicity & peace will find a home with you.

[Ever5Participant 1008]

Keymaster wrote:

Relationships are dangerous grounds. Her biology wants to kill attraction to you & make you a provider so she can cheat while ovulating.

A profound truth when I realized women are constantly trying to emasculate the boyfriend / husband — so she can DIS-qualify him.

Yep, that’s something I learned a while back. This is why it’s important to never fall in love, commit. If you fall in love, commit emotionally, you’ll for sure be taken advantage of. And yeah, it is dangerous grounds.

I believe this behavior is subconscious, biology, instinct. The woman tears down the man’s self esteem. This makes him feel less worthy, and also lowers his confidence making him less attractive to other women, being confidence is a major factor in sexual attraction. With that, the more and more she tears him down, if he’s attached, the less attractive he becomes and the less likely he is to be taken or seduced away. Making him a good provider. However, all this taking place, he becomes less and less attractive to the woman who is doing this to him. And with that, she’s more and more desirous to cheat on him.

Toxic family relationships do the exact same thing. It’s very cult like. They belittle the members, they lack the confidence to make new friends. It’s very counter intuitive. Because you would think when someone is abusive, the abused would jet. However, if the abused is emotionally invested/attached, the abuser will do this incrementally, like boiling a frog. Inch by inch, until the individual has no confidence left in them and basically becomes a slave.

What is interesting, the more and more I dive into this stuff, the negative emotions, and yes, I do lots of mediation. I’m able to overcome it. But with that, the desire/lust for female companionship becomes less and less. And seeing the reality becomes clearer and clearer. Because of this, I feel I’m more aware of bad behavior and less likely to put up with it. And because women are so adaptive, I’ve found my interactions with them have been more positive. At the same time, I have no desire for it. Like I don’t care to revisit that positive interaction, I’m not attached to it like I used to be.

It used to be, if a woman gave me attention, I would crave for more of it. “I can’t wait til we talk again or see each other again, etc.”. Now I could take it or leave it, it’s nice in the moment, but once it’s over, I’m no longer concerned about it. So that’s a big improvement.

My desire is to just be free from wanting things to be different than they are. Free to live in the moment. No more desire for the future. Only enjoying the present. All these hangups, I believe are created by past trauma. Wanting the past to be different than it was. So we create situations, and then play them out, hoping for the story to change, but it doesn’t. And this goes on and on, time and time again, until we finally stop trying to make reality something that it isn’t.

Fundamentally, this is the insanity of the human species. We want things to work differently, to play out differently, than they did/are. Because of this, we keep doing things that do not work and never will work.

My example I’ve mentioned, getting involved with women that were really kinda sad human beings, moochers, couldn’t take care of themselves, because of my desire to be appreciated/needed/significant/important. Not realizing, people who are like that, don’t want to be helped, they are doing it for their own selfish reasons. To get back at their parents, to be ‘important’, “look at me, look how hard my life is, look how much I’m struggling…”, etc.

Truth has no place to live in the mind of a woman.

[Anonymous 1]

I’m so glad I just walked away from all this stuff years ago.
A man needs nothing from a society hellbent on enslaving him.
A woman with a flat tyre will stand there until some simp changes it for her, me ? I’ll just drive on by, the same as she would if the situation were reversed.
They wanted equality so they can have it.

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