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Anonymous1Argon. That was a hard story to read. Hang in there
I don’t believe a woman cheats righteously.
A man that cheats has a lot of options. Women are always gonna have options from the day they grow t~~~ to be honest.
A man with options has external things going on for him. Hes a catch. For a woman, lets be real here, the only thing she has to offer is pussy. If somehow you meet a woman that can give you more value than just pussy you might not cheat.
There’s no gratification to how women get another dick. Dick will always be there. But a valuable man wont. They’re miserable when they’re cheating.
Anonymous1According to The Manipulated Man, women consider cheating men like a small firm considers its best worker go to other firm. The only emotional feelings is almost the same like the employer.
I don’t think it’s all so cut and dry. Sure, some married men just decide, “I’m going to find an affair” or opportunity presents itself but sometimes its more of a process.
I can give you my own story.
I was in a 10+ year marriage that turned sexless due to my ex-wife’s health issues, with her plumbing. The issues were complicated and difficult to treat.
We tried many times over the years to communicate it but both had frustrations on the topic and any discussion of it quickly escalated to tears and anger (never shouting though.) She refused counseling or to work with me. The constant rejection and fights on the subject really messed with me. I drank to self-medicate.
I sought support online in groups for folks in sexless marriages. That is one sad sad place. I ended up meeting lots of people but also a woman in a similar situation. Through our talks, eventually we ended up having an emotional affair – we never met, but almost did a few times.
Long story short, I came clean to my ex, we patched things up for a few years until she paid me back 2x.
I realize now there are a couple different, and proper ways that I should have handled it but I was emotionally devastated, still, my mistake and I own that.
My point is that often things are a progression of circumstances. Life isn’t black and white, there’s plenty of grey.
TiredOfWmnSh1t.
A man on his death bed only regrets the sex he didn’t have….
why do men cheat? Because we are hard wired to procreate. I married my ex wife at age 25 because I was young and stupid and blown away by her hot little pussy. When the sex stopped I was the one who felt betrayed by her. I was still attracted. I was faithful to the original sexual emotional contract. I cheated on her because I felt rejected by her and was angry that she enjoyed all the benefits of being married to me but withdrew her intimacy from me. When opportunity presented itself I took it. It was the mirror image of what she was doing to me. She got the benefits of a male partner without reciprocating with sex. The women I f~~~ed gave me the sex without any male provisioning. I thought it was a fair trade. I think it’s unnatural to vow to be with one partner for the rest of your life. This is just one reason marriage is a flawed concept. It may sound crass, but I think cheating is the nature of human sexuality. Monogamy is the unnatural act which is enforced for social reasons.
"Women: you can't live with them, and you can't shoot them."
I don’t think you can look at the issue of cheating in isolation. Absolutely, it’s a breach of contract, a breach of a man’s promise. However, it is not the only way that a man will breach his contract, nor is he usually the only one who breached the contract.
I do think it matters whether the affair happens overnight, or developed over a period of time. In some respects overnight is better since it’s probably completely unemotional. Then again, I a slow emotional affair could be worse since it’s deeper. It’s a shame that society encourages non-married men and women to get emotional involved, if there is no risk to the spouse(s).
From an overall perspective though, the fact that men cheat isn’t that huge of a problem. He will pay for his unfaithfulness and general bad behavior. The problem is that women don’t pay for their unfaithfulness or bad behavior. The morality isn’t really the problem, it’s the consequences.
Ok. Then do it.
Anonymous1I don’t think you can look at the issue of cheating in isolation.
Yes, I’m only seeing it now.
From an overall perspective though, the fact that men cheat isn’t that huge of a problem. He will pay for his unfaithfulness and general bad behavior.
Yeah, men have the courage to be responsible for his shortcomings. Women on the other hand, tend to blame eeeeverything besides themselves.
This may seem very opinionated because it is my opinion and from my own perspective.
Bottom line, humans are only in relationships with each other to make sure they procreate and that the offspring survives. It is in the best interest of the female of the species to keep the father of that offspring as close as possible to ensure her safety and the safety of that child. The man wants to have as many offspring as he can produce with as many healthy worthy (seemingly)females as possible to ensure the survival of as many offspring as possible but, it is in his best interest and his offspring’s as well if he stays close to the mother of his child because she may be with another man and have his child and discard the first child for the new one or the or because the new male may even kill the child the woman already has to ensure she gives all need attention to his new child.
That is the early man and woman relationship and how it started to be monogamous.
These days, again my opinion, but based on common facts and knowledge. Men only cheat because women don’t give a f~~~ about anyone but themselves. If a man is f~~~ing some woman other than his wife, it’s because the other woman is a cheating whore and opened her legs. Whether or not she knows if the man is in a relationship or not. Women know when a man is in a relationship no matter what he may say to her. Its so obvious when another person you are spending time with f~~~ing is in a relationship. We all know the signs. But, women don’t care and they let it happen and even ask for it. If a woman didn’t open her legs for anyone except the person she is married to or that she knows damn well he’s single it would be rape. Period.
There is a joke my Dad, who happened to be a very big cheater in his marriage to my mom, and it goes like this.
So, this man comes home from work and finds his wife and his best friend in bed together f~~~ing. Everyone is surprised and the husband looks a them and says to his wife “you, whore! Pack your s~~~ and get the f~~~ out of my house forever. He then turns to his friend and says, Bad Dog!!
A man is only going to take what is offered and willingly given up to him by a woman or risk lifetime imprisonment. There are those men out there but very few. On the other hand, there are so many women who cheat on their men and also cheat on another woman by f~~~ing their man, willingly. Men aren’t cheaters they are opportunistic.
Just my opinion." if women didn't exist , all the money in the world would have no meaning" Aristotle Onassis "Women are like Elephants, everyone wants to look at them but, nobody wants to have one" W.C. Fields
I can honestly say I’ve never done anything besides kiss another woman behind a partners back.
I’ve always believed that cheating is 50% temptation and 50% opportunity.
I have never understood why men wouldn’t just break it off with a woman; it is natural for women to cheat, they are monkey branching, not wanting to lose what they already have (resources from a man). For a man, it’s different – he has no inherent need for the woman – if anything he is burdened by her.
Short of a trophy (if he uses her to enforce reputation to other blue pillers) or to retain involvement with his children (where applicable) there is no need for a man to cheat. He can end the relations~~~ and life will improve for the most part.
Personal opinion.
No-one's yet explained to me exactly what's so great // About slaving fifty years away on something that you hate // About meekly shuffling down the path of mediocrity // Well if that's your road then take it, but it's not the road for me.
I have never understood why men wouldn’t just break it off with a woman;
They often do. It maybe a case where the man has already decided to leave the wife/gf, just hasn’t gone through with it yet…since it’s not a pleasant experience. It could also be a situation where they are concerned about what happens with the kids.
I imagine the most common situation though is that it’s just about sex. His current relationship is lacking, but the side piece isn’t a permanent answer, just something to hold him over. He knows from experience that the sex will stop the second he leaves his wife for her. Why leave one bad situation to end up in another?
Ok. Then do it.
I can honestly say I’ve never done anything besides kiss another woman behind a partners back.
I’ve always believed that cheating is 50% temptation and 50% opportunity.
I have never understood why men wouldn’t just break it off with a woman; it is natural for women to cheat, they are monkey branching, not wanting to lose what they already have (resources from a man). For a man, it’s different – he has no inherent need for the woman – if anything he is burdened by her.
Short of a trophy (if he uses her to enforce reputation to other blue pillers) or to retain involvement with his children (where applicable) there is no need for a man to cheat. He can end the relations~~~ and life will improve for the most part.
Personal opinion.
Like you, I’ve never done more than kiss another girl when I was in high school and I had been with my girlfriend for about 2 years and her best friend, both girls are hot, and I were drunk and I kissed her and my girlfriend walked around the corner and caught us. I felt like such a dumbass and her best friend did also, luckily we both remained in the same relationship. I was with her for 2 more years until she wanted to get married and she and her best friend are still best friends 30 years later.
But, I never wanted to cheat. There is no need for it. In my opinion. My Dad stayed and my mom put up with it because they had four kids and my mom was a stay at home mom with only a high school education. Where was she going to go? My parents divorced after 28 years of being married. My Dad married two more times. He was a narcissistic personality disorder person, made really good money and women were always all over him.
But, he had to pay my Mom monthly til he died or til she remarried which was never going to happen after putting up with him for almost 30 years.
She got our house a mile and a half from the beach on the westside of Los Angeles, worth a million, 20 years ago and paid off. She took half of the money from the sale of our home in the mountains she took one of the his and hers Z28’s they had bought a year before. She was actually pretty nice to him, she could have really f~~~ed him badly. She didn’t take his social security or any other retirement that I know of. He remarried about 4 yrs later to a woman the same age as my oldest sister,6 yrs older than me and divorced 6 yrs later and lost 2 houses to her and alimony forever or til she remarried.
5 yrs later married again and they were together 20 yrs before he died 3 yrs ago. So, I know about cheating and divorce and the courts and how women can be, both good and bad. That’s a very big part of why I’ve always been for the most part, going my own way." if women didn't exist , all the money in the world would have no meaning" Aristotle Onassis "Women are like Elephants, everyone wants to look at them but, nobody wants to have one" W.C. Fields
Like you, I’ve never done more than kiss another girl when I was in high school and I had been with my girlfriend for about 2 years and her best friend, both girls are hot, and I were drunk and I kissed her and my girlfriend walked around the corner and caught us. I felt like such a dumbass and her best friend did also, luckily we both remained in the same relationship. I was with her for 2 more years until she wanted to get married and she and her best friend are still best friends 30 years later.
But, I never wanted to cheat. There is no need for it. In my opinion. My Dad stayed and my mom put up with it because they had four kids and my mom was a stay at home mom with only a high school education. Where was she going to go? My parents divorced after 28 years of being married. My Dad married two more times. He was a narcissistic personality disorder person, made really good money and women were always all over him.
But, he had to pay my Mom monthly til he died or til she remarried which was never going to happen after putting up with him for almost 30 years.
She got our house a mile and a half from the beach on the westside of Los Angeles, worth a million, 20 years ago and paid off. She took half of the money from the sale of our home in the mountains she took one of the his and hers Z28’s they had bought a year before. She was actually pretty nice to him, she could have really f~~~ed him badly. She didn’t take his social security or any other retirement that I know of. He remarried about 4 yrs later to a woman the same age as my oldest sister, 6 yrs older than me and divorced 6 yrs later and lost 2 houses to her and alimony forever or til she remarried.
5 yrs later married again and they were together 20 yrs before he died 3 yrs ago. So, I know about cheating and divorce and the courts and how women can be, both good and bad. That’s a very big part of why I’ve always been for the most part, going my own way.
My Dad and Mum got divorced, but luckily for my Dad, he had nothing. Strange silver lining I know. My Dad has always been a man of a modest lifestyle. He never really did much with his life – he always worked but has suffered with alcoholism as far back as I remember. I have a lot of siblings; my Dad had four kids (two biologically and two he took under his wing from my Mum’s previous relationship). All his income went on spoiling us and on maintaining the family home; the rest went on alcohol.
Blessing in disguise. I was shielded from the divorce, I was about 10 at the time. I don’t recall my Dad ever saying he got f~~~ed over, however he was the one who left without anything except the clothes on his back and a few possessions, moving into a small flat. He left my Mum with the home as all of us children lived there. I do remember him turning up drunk from time to time, pleading to see us and my Mum turning him away because of the state he was in. Back then I was scared for my safety; in hindsight I admire him for fighting to have access – even if it wasn’t the most sensible approach. That said, he had little no legal footing given his abuse of alcohol, and also his lack of finances to pay for a protracted legal battle.
I moved out of my Mum’s home around 2 years later and lived with my Dad from then on.
No-one's yet explained to me exactly what's so great // About slaving fifty years away on something that you hate // About meekly shuffling down the path of mediocrity // Well if that's your road then take it, but it's not the road for me.
@ AB, well, Brother
You were young and you were the victim of what everyone of us are victims of as kids. Seeing life through unknowing eyes. Only seeing and hearing certain things and depending on the situation, only knowing what the relationship was like at that time. Like me, although I was 20 when my parents split, I had known about my Dad screwing every female waitress, bartemptress,(I love that name) and other men’s wives and single mom in town. I also remember only having my Dad make enough money for us to not be rich or spoiled but we rarely went without something that we needed. But, being the youngest I didn’t know about my Dad trying to start his own businesses a few times and losing everything except the house and my Grandparents would come for dinner and I didn’t realize they brought over food for us to eat because my Dad lost all the money he had and he, like your Dad was a drinker. He was what they call a functioning alcoholic. He spent the money he did make at the bar also. He would go to work every day though. He always did that. To me it was kinda normal because I didn’t know any better and my friend’s Dads did the same thing because they were all friends as well. Not all of them but, my best friends were the sons of my Dad’s best friends. As I got to be about 10 or 11 is when I started seeing what was really going on and listening instead of just hearing what my parents would be arguing about.
It’s pretty messed up. We had enough love and taught good morals and I could have been a lot worse of a person than I am. I was no Angel either." if women didn't exist , all the money in the world would have no meaning" Aristotle Onassis "Women are like Elephants, everyone wants to look at them but, nobody wants to have one" W.C. Fields
It’s pretty messed up. We had enough love and taught good morals and I could have been a lot worse of a person than I am. I was no Angel either.
This resonates with me; we are all patchwork people, sewn together from experiences and memories. We are the products of our environment; nature vs. nurture. Our parents own Frankenstein’s.
I’ve made mistakes, I’m just a man. [/bonjovi].
Was my Dad perfect? Certainly not. Were his actions justified? Perhaps.
It is not our position to judge others, but only to judge ourselves – for only we can know why we truly do the things we do and make the decisions we make.
And we are both here – on MGTOW, trying to improve our lives and be better than our perception of our Fathers. That itself is a testament to our perspective and outlook.
May being MGOOW lead us to salvation.
No-one's yet explained to me exactly what's so great // About slaving fifty years away on something that you hate // About meekly shuffling down the path of mediocrity // Well if that's your road then take it, but it's not the road for me.
-It’s not that I’m not agree about it, I am, but in a real world, there’s so many cheating men and I found it hard to try not to blame them.-
Sure lets blame men, when women freely give it with out even trying to resist these days, do you understand the dynamics between the sexes?, do you know anything about economics? too much of anything becomes cheap, women out number men so you do your math….
You like to say the “real world” and i don’t know if you are trying to insult us men who have suffered by the REAL WORLD or by your definition of what you perceive as real, the human perception only amounts to uhmmm… Idk, 2 percent of the spectrum of what we can see and hear?, then you expect me to take your observation seriously Einstein?. Go back to the jungle of Concrete and steel and comeback to us friend when you have suffered enough.
Now on a last note, i come from a single mother that my father was a narcissist asshole and never gave me a dime, instead of spending the rest of my life blaming her and him i moved on and became a real man with a real career, we don’t need your bs essays as to why men are equally guilty for objectifying or the ever present erosion of morals. This is mostly women’s fault for their desperation and lack of critical thinking.
Unfortunately, there is no uniform answer. Every situation, every guy, and girl is different. Unless we’re actively communicating with them in the moment for their specific reason, all we’re doing is generalizing. I’m more in line with many of the guys here who believes, if you’re going to enter a “faithful” agreement, then be faithful. If you intend to cheat, then have the decency to break it off with the person you’re with. It doesn’t reflect well on your character to be cheating around. Whatever the reason, whatever the sex, and any person who would do such a thing, would likely do it again.
if you’re going to enter a “faithful” agreement, then be faithful. If you intend to cheat, then have the decency to break it off with the person you’re with. It doesn’t reflect well on your character to be cheating around.
Totally agree with this.
No-one's yet explained to me exactly what's so great // About slaving fifty years away on something that you hate // About meekly shuffling down the path of mediocrity // Well if that's your road then take it, but it's not the road for me.
Anonymous1Wow, I cant believe how this thread expanded. But yeah, every cheating story is not just plain cheating. I mean, the backgrounds are hugely different.
AB, I like the term ‘patchwork people’.
I actually was on the other hand of the stick in this aspect of relationsh*ts.
When I was still blue-pill, I got to be the so-called “Chad” that the chick comes to see while her bf is jerking himself off at home. And to make it even more awkward it happened to me with two girls: Once with what ended up being my second gf, the poor guy didn’t know what hit him…. dumped because his gf just found herself a better dick to ride.
The second time was with a childhood friend, she was in a relationsh*t with a guy way older than her. What shocked me is that the guy knew she was cheating on him but didn’t do a damn thing about it. The only thing he would ask of her would be to repeat 3 rules they made up for these kind of situations (aka it’s only for sex, nothing will ever come out of it blablabla…) by text! It was so ridiculous for me that I lost any attraction I had for the girl while pounding her and lost my boner mid-way through.
Even more disgusting, she tried to make it a regular thing with me after that because “I was that good”. I was so turned off that I slowly cut any contact with her.I couldn’t forgive anyone for cheating on his/her partner, there are things that are off limits for me and that’s in the Top 3. Trust is something you have to earn and betraying that bond is a proof that the person you’re dealing with is not worth your time.
I just need some opinions from you guys, or mgtow’s perspective about cheating men. In relationships or in marriages.
This topic has nothing to do with my life, though. I’m not in a relationship, anyway. But this is just something that bugging my mind.
See, after I red pilled, I notice that the story which always come out is about cheating women, and almost never about the men. I may be skipped pass it. It’s a possibility
I don’t understand why you’re asking – it has “nothing to do with your life” so why ask these questions? I don’t get it.
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