About cheating men

[Anonymous 1]

I just need some opinions from you guys, or mgtow’s perspective about cheating men. In relationships or in marriages.

This topic has nothing to do with my life, though. I’m not in a relationship, anyway. But this is just something that bugging my mind.

See, after I red pilled, I notice that the story which always come out is about cheating women, and almost never about the men. I may be skipped pass it. It’s a possibility.

In mgtow, there’s a view of the world that the women who always screwed everything up: monkey branching, carrouselling, etc. It’s not that I’m not agree about it, I am, but in a real world, there’s so many cheating men and I found it hard to try not to blame them.

God I hope I’m not rephrase my thoughts wrongly. So let just go to questions:

1. Are men who cheats do it because they’re just plain assholes?
2. Or that it always because of women? Whether it’s the main chick’s (getting fat, increasingly annoying, less sex, etc) or the side chick’s (she let it happened)?
3. Or is it because men hard coded to not be monogamous?
4. Or is it because he’s simply a simp?
5. Or some of the above or none of the above?

Is there any mgtow’s perspective about this? Because now I see men are inherently good people and find it hard to keep that point of view when I see news or anything about the cheating men.

I hope that’s clear enough question and I hope maybe you guys can help me to understand. To give me some basic points if I need to judge certain cases where the only seemingly guilty party is the man. Thank you.

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

wrikudoro,

1. Are men who cheats do it because they’re just plain assholes?
Not in my view. Human beings are polygamous by nature.

2. Or that it always because of women? Whether it’s the main chick’s (getting fat, increasingly annoying, less sex, etc) or the side chick’s (she let it happened)?
Good possibility. Men want an attractive and healthy woman to procreate with.

3. Or is it because men hard coded to not be monogamous?
See my answer to your first question.

4. Or is it because he’s simply a simp?
I would have thought a simp will be loyal.

5. Or some of the above or none of the above?
Some of the above.

This is human nature. Shaming a man or a woman for adultery is just shaming their biology. Sure we humans can make conscious choices, which overlook our own biology, thus become monogamous, but these choices are based on heavy social conditioning. Expecting a partner to remain monogamous is very uncertain because anything in the relationship can happen. All relationships lose their lustre over time. That romance phase fades and people become bored and wonder why they are still together. “Love” is just a chemical reaction in one’s brain which is supported by mother nature to encourage procreation. This window is very short lived. Once mother nature’s work is done, she moves on. It is what it is. If a man is with a woman who expects him to remain faithful, then he will face the consequences of being adulterous.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[Anonymous 1]

Thanks, Mike

MGTOW_Mike wrote:

Not in my view. Human beings are polygamous by nature.

This basically answers everything. Ha!

Well. This all circles back to how marriages and commitments are actually go against human nature then. Another potential topic about the dawn of marriages.

But, anyone with other opinion, feel free to chime in!

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

Anonymous wrote:

Is there any mgtow’s perspective about this?

I’ll give ya a perspective; It’s up to Each Man to do What He Wants To Do !!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

MGTOW_Mike wrote:

This is human nature. Shaming a man or a woman for adultery is just shaming their biology.

I dunno about this bit. If you make a promise to be faithful, that should mean something too, at least to a man, since he has this thing called honor. Of course the smart thing is not to make the promise in the first place.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[BoarParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

To give me some basic points if I need to judge certain cases where the only seemingly guilty party is the man.

My issue is not the dissapointment when someone in a relations~~~ cheats. My issue comes from the gender-biased justifications that go with the broken relations~~~: no matter who cheats, it is ultimately the man’s fault. She cheated because he was: boring; broke; subservient; weak; or socially unimportant. He cheats and he is an asshole.

Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.

[BushidoParticipant 637]

While human nature is polygamous, the demands of society require us to have a moral code that obligates us to adhere to standards of respect to one another. Holding a relationship is one of those societal obligations of trust.

I do not respect a cheater, Male or female. That is a breach of trust, a shattering of their own moral code and a permanent blemish on them as someone who can be trusted. That person has failed to communicate the deficiencies of a relationship or failed to properly separate from the problem in a tactful and clear manner.

If one cannot control one’s primal impulses, should they be expected to be an example for others?

I say no.

Logic guides your actions, emotion guides your morals. Only you may decide how you use them.

[MACHOParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

I just need some opinions from you guys, or mgtow’s perspective about cheating men. In relationships or in marriages.

Of course being on the site you have to include mgtow in your question.. But the thing is if one cheats one is asking for trouble. It’s Like The old saying goes.. You reap what you sow! A very old friend of mine I knew told me a few weeks before his passing … We think we get away with bad stuff we do to others.. But We Don’t!

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[The man in the mountainParticipant 4102]

-It’s not that I’m not agree about it, I am, but in a real world, there’s so many cheating men and I found it hard to try not to blame them.-

Sure lets blame men, when women freely give it with out even trying to resist these days, do you understand the dynamics between the sexes?, do you know anything about economics? too much of anything becomes cheap, women out number men so you do your math….

You like to say the “real world” and i don’t know if you are trying to insult us men who have suffered by the REAL WORLD or by your definition of what you perceive as real, the human perception only amounts to uhmmm… Idk, 2 percent of the spectrum of what we can see and hear?, then you expect me to take your observation seriously Einstein?. Go back to the jungle of Concrete and steel and comeback to us friend when you have suffered enough.

Now on a last note, i come from a single mother that my father was a narcissist asshole and never gave me a dime, instead of spending the rest of my life blaming her and him i moved on and became a real man with a real career, we don’t need your bs essays as to why men are equally guilty for objectifying or the ever present erosion of morals. This is mostly women’s fault for their desperation and lack of critical thinking.

[Pedal, run, rowParticipant]

Can’t Stump Trump wrote:

MGTOW_Mike wrote:

This is human nature. Shaming a man or a woman for adultery is just shaming their biology.

I dunno about this bit. If you make a promise to be faithful, that should mean something too, at least to a man, since he has this thing called honor. Of course the smart thing is not to make the promise in the first place.

I totally agree. To shrug off disloyalty and lack of honor, adultery, with a “it is just our nature” is a cop out, imo.

It might be our nature to overpower someone with something we want and need, and take it with brute force, with violence, but we do not, and we don’t excuse those who do not curb that instinct.

We are not f~~~ing c~~~ roaches, slaves to our instincts and nature. Both men and women. We must, each of us accept responsibility for our own choices and actions, and strive to rise above the baser parts of our beings.

As for men who cheat, I have no respect for them whatsoever. I don’t trust them, and I certainly don’t want them in my life. You are not happy with your wife, tell her, leave her etc.

same as I feel about women who cheat.

If they are willing to do that after taking wedding vows, I can only imagine what their word would mean to me, and what they would be willing to do if it suited their needs in the moment.

[Anonymous 1]

Thank you guys. So basically it’s unacceptable because it’s a breach of contract or trust. No matter who perpetuates it, and no matter how biology shapes us. Got it.

To The Man in The Mountain, I’m sorry if my choice of words disturbs you. It’s not my intention. The point of this topic is to find a perspective for me, not trying to blame anybody. You can see my struggle to not as quickly just blame certain party, from my initial writings.

But maybe because English is not my first language, I might unintentionally adding or substracting some nuance from my sentences, and create misunderstanding. For that I’m sorry.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Anonymous wrote:

but in a real world, there’s so many cheating men

Are there really?

I believe the statistic is something like 80% of women having sex with 20% of men. Are those men really “cheaters”? Or is this simply the statistics of female sexual behavior?

Finally, it’s not cheating if you’re not married. But married women cheat far far more often than married men, and lie about it more too. So why would any sane man marry in this legal and social climate?

[Buff MinorcanParticipant 83]

I cheated once, and surprisingly felt nothing. I figured there would be shame or guilt, but zilch.

The girl I was in a relationship with had gotten boring and was quite terrible in bed. I was out one night and ran into an old fling. She wanted to hook up real bad so I just….did. Next day I at my GF’s place and everything was normal for me. I broke up with her a few weeks later but it had zero to do with me cheating, it was already passed the expiration date.

If I’m dating an attractive woman and we are having sex on the regular I’m not looking for it elsewhere. If the woman starts to go thru her predictable stage of just not wanting sex frequently then I’m not going to waste time “talking” about it, I’ll just wear protection and take care of it somewhere else. A man has needs. Why ignore them and become tense and take it out on her? I’ve had GF’s that wanted sex throughout the entire relationship and I’ve had others where they for whatever reason drop off big time on how frequently they want to have sex.

At this point I’m already out of the relationship before I let it get to that stage, but if for some reason you want to push thru but need to get your sex elsewhere while she is going thru….whatever the hell she is going thru….then I don’t judge.

Just don’t make the mistake of feeling guilty and confessing. Dumbest thing a man can do. When you confess that kind of thing to a woman she will act like she is devastated but in truth she is filled with joy. Now she has ALL the power over you. She will never let it down, the fact that you cheated. She will hang it over your head for as long as you are with her and you won’t so much as have a guy’s night out even once a damn year.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

Anonymous wrote:

Well. This all circles back to how marriages and commitments are actually go against human nature then.

Because in the past it was a contract. You provided resources and provision and she provides sex and companionship. Marriage was never about love or being faithful that just recently become the go to reason for doing it. Even now mens roles have remained the same (resources, provision) while women’s roles have changed (no sex, no companionship).

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

Im going “chauvinist mode”, men are meant to f~~~ who they want (millions of sperm) while women are meant to sit the f~~~ down and shut up (one egg).

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[bladeParticipant]

Wrikudoro i think hetro men cheating probably is much less than in the gay community . Because you are gay i figure that is where you are cumming from bro .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[bladeParticipant]

Ps bro i thought you might like this guy wasn’t sure if ya herd of him seems ya indo .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[xenonParticipant 2007]

Pedal, run, row wrote:

I totally agree. To shrug off disloyalty and lack of honor, adultery, with a “it is just our nature” is a cop out, imo.

It might be our nature to overpower someone with something we want and need, and take it with brute force, with violence, but we do not, and we don’t excuse those who do not curb that instinct.

We are not f~~~ing c~~~ roaches, slaves to our instincts and nature. Both men and women. We must, each of us accept responsibility for our own choices and actions, and strive to rise above the baser parts of our beings.

As for men who cheat, I have no respect for them whatsoever. I don’t trust them, and I certainly don’t want them in my life. You are not happy with your wife, tell her, leave her etc.

same as I feel about women who cheat.

If they are willing to do that after taking wedding vows, I can only imagine what their word would mean to me, and what they would be willing to do if it suited their needs in the moment.

Thank you for saying that. I am a monogamous man. I have been cheated on by every single gf or wife I have had. Every one. It has destroyed my soul one dull rusty knife in the back at a time. As for men? What were trusted friends have each greedily grabbed the rusty knife she (ex-wife #2) left in my back and gave it a good twist. One day I will tell you about ex wife #2 and her goal of f~~~ing every friend I had, starting with the ones I truly cared about. Don’t ever tell them anything. The day before I tried to suffocate myself with CO she came over with that f~~~ing smirk and happily told me about how she just let my ex business partner f~~~ her in the ass.

I have one friend that called me and told me he just threw her skanky ass out of his house after she came on to him. One. He was in my band. Always Always the first place they go to f~~~ your friends. The only band a c~~~ didn’t break up. This is why I pray to a God I have less than zero faith in for the Sweet Meteor of Death. The best trajectory for it would bring it right in on top of my house. And I apologize to all of you for that s~~~. It hurts so bad to even think about it; if one guy reads it and dumps the ho he is with before she kills him it is worth the pain. F~~~. Or better yet don’t bother.

A non person who enjoys doing that has only one name. Sociopath. Women = sociopath.

[bladeParticipant]

Ya cool argon . I to was f~~~ed around on bro . I won’t go there in my head at moment . Awalt . So many guys out there this minute getting f~~~ed around on and don’t even know it or will know about it .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Anonymous 1]

blade wrote:

Wrikudoro i think hetro men cheating probably is much less than in the gay community . Because you are gay i figure that is where you are cumming from bro .

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Oh god blade. Cheating is always expected in gay communities. It’s so rampant!

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