Aaron Clarey – I Can't Believe This Guy is Against MGTOW

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

LOL !

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

Fux wit AC Doxxed BarBar and StarDusk .
To the sewer pool with him .

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

MGTOW Wave,

Thanks for the links. Like I said, I just found this guy last night and only watched a few of his videos. I watched the Sandman video you posted. Interesting.

Am I the only one that can’t stand listening to ThinkingApe? It takes him 50 words and 10 minutes to say what could be done in 25 and 5. Every time I hear this guys voice (especially the intro in the first video you linked on this page LOL) I think of The Simpsons ‘Comic Book Guy’:

I’ve listened to quite a bit of Sandman, but I haven’t found any of his content really thought provoking. IMO he’s high in quantity, but low on quality.

To each his own.

Thanks for the info on Aaron Clarey, I did not know this.

Resident cynic.

[KingofWisdomParticipant 72]

Yeah, I think some people confuse ‘long-winded’ for ‘deep’.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

I’ve listened to quite a bit of Sandman, but I haven’t found any of his content really thought provoking. IMO he’s high in quantity, but low on quality.

That’s because he’s another whore trying to make a buck off the red pill. He had his own anti-MGTOW moment, because whores hate competition.

F~~~ sandman too.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

sidecar wrote:

That’s because he’s another whore trying to make a buck off the red pill.
F~~~ sandman too.

Haha, that is true SideCar.

I can’t believe people pay Sandman for his opinions; especially when there’s nothing: substantive, unique, or interesting which can’t be found elsewhere (like here). As a capitalist, a part of me finds it amusing that he’s able to pull it off, but I personally wouldn’t pay for his opinion, as I can barely stand listening to him for free.

He had his own anti-MGTOW moment

Did not know this.

Resident cynic.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

Did not know this.

All for them, Sandman, Clarey, Piggy Paul, and so on, every one of them who tries to make a fast buck off dispensing red pill wisdom, inevitably turns on MGTOW, because we give away for free (and rightfully so) what they hope to sell. They can’t compete.

So while some of them may still try to brand themselves under the MGTOW label (mostly to attract youtube hits), the last thing they want is for men to come here.

I personally wouldn’t pay for his opinion

And that’s just it: all they’re trying to sell are their hollow opinions. Contrast that to guys like Popp who delivers facts, analysis, and humor. Popp actually does the legwork, researches his material, and provides a real product for sale (or at least for donation) instead of just spouting off his own bland opinions. That’s why Popp has never (to my knowledge) turned on MGTOW: he doesn’t need to – he adds value and has a real product to sell. You can’t get what he does here for free.

Everything Clarey, Sandman, and Piggy Paul have to say that’s worthwhile can be learned just by opening your eyes.

[MaverickParticipant 811]

sidecar wrote:

Ancientwisdom wrote:

I tend to agree w/most of what he says

What he’s selling is largely common sense, so it’s to be expected that you’d agree with most of it. However he’s still trying to sell it, and therein lies his problem. He’s trying to sell something that cost him nothing and which can (and should) be had elsewhere for free. That makes him a whore.

The guy is making a living without having to depend on the corporate world (which he has ranted about many times). What’s wrong with that if people are willing to pay him?

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

Maverick wrote:

The guy is making a living without having to depend on the corporate world (which he has ranted about many times). What’s wrong with that if people are willing to pay him?

I agree w/you on this. People are willingly giving him their money. He’s not selling a ponzy scheme, or anything of that sort.

I wouldn’t pay him myself for what he produces; but he’s found a way to escape the corporate world while at one and the same time express his own opinion (if you take him at face value). All the while, the mass majority of viewers watch him for free.

Capitalism and individualism at it’s finest.

Not, too, shabby.

I don’t agree w/everything he says, but just because he bashed MGTOW isn’t going to make me disagree w/all of his views. No one is going to be liked by everyone in the world, and that’s a simple fact of life. I like some personalities that are non-MGTOW and I also dislike some personalities that are MGTOW. Again, just a fact of life.

Resident cynic.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Maverick wrote:

What’s wrong with that if people are willing to pay him?

Nothing, other than the fact that what he’s selling costs him nothing and can be had elsewhere for free. And that makes him a whore. Not that there’s anything necessarily wrong with whores.

However when he starts denigrating MGTOW, where men can get everything he’s selling for free, to protect his whoreish little income, well then he’s gone beyond mere whorishness.

That’s something wives do.

And that’s what’s wrong with it.

Ancientwisdom wrote:

People are willingly giving him their money. He’s not selling a ponzy scheme, or anything of that sort.

They wouldn’t be willing to give him their money if they simply knew about Going Their Own Way.

Also he’s a tradcon PUA, so what he’s selling isn’t exactly a quality product. So again, f~~~ him.

[MaverickParticipant 811]

sidecar wrote:

Nothing, other than the fact that what he’s selling costs him nothing and can be had elsewhere for free. And that makes him a whore. Not that there’s anything necessarily wrong with whores.

Why would he advertise MGTOW on his blog if that’s the case? No doubt people will be curious and look it up if they don’t know what it is. I’ve been visiting MGTOW sites for over 12 years now and still bought some of his books. Doubt I am the only one.

I agree that his bashing the concept is kinda lame, whatever the reason..

[SkeptiskParticipant 3679]

I recommend Independent Man. Much better content.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjbgKUcTjpxmuW-8U0LR80Q?&ab_channel=IndependentMan

"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Maverick wrote:

Why would he advertise MGTOW on his blog if that’s the case?

Because he knows the value of clickbait for attracting easy marks.

Piggy Paul tried to buy mgtow.com for his own website while childishly denouncing it as pigtow.

They’ll use the term when it gets them easy marks, and then denounce it to preserve that income. Because they’re that special type of whore. Just because it’s working for them, so far, doesn’t make them not whores.

[UnbelievableyetnotParticipant 512]

I don’t see any inconsistency with him not respecting MGTOW. Makes sense to me.

The reason he’s not MGTOW is the fact the he openly mocks anyone who seek careers in education, the arts, humanities, the government, corporations and literally anything that’s not STEM or a trade.

You can’t really be for Men Going Their Own Way if you constantly take the p~~~ out of men for going ways you don’t respect.

[JackinovParticipant 5229]

The recurring theme I’m seeing with these types is that they denounce MGTOW via a simplistic, almost arrogant and definitely naive attitude, essentially trying to make it clear to as many people as possible that “they don’t need MGTOW” because they get pussy on the regular, and “MGTOW is only for those who don’t get pussy”. Validation via women is why these simps live and breathe, so even though they know that it is reasonable to have an issue with the animalistic whores women have become, they will pretend it is not, that it is weird to not want to be abused by women and the system set up for them.

They will also pretend that MGTOW isn’t made up of men from all walks of life who have had all different levels and types of sex with many different women, no, they peg MGTOW as “sex less” in an effort to make it seem less important, since again, sex is why they live and breathe.

No matter how good the foot you put forward is, people will ALWAYS look for a way to discredit you. So f~~~ them.

are you a chia pet in man drag

[AttonParticipant]

Pua bulls~~~ fails MGTOW succeeds.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[EyeswideopenParticipant 2930]

I’ve been a long time lister and reader of Aaron. 99% of his stuff is right on the money in my books. I find him insightful for the most part. I differ in my approach to women – they are for dalliance only.

My understanding is he’s in a trad con relationship with a gal. With all due respect to him, I think there is a certain degree of denial. He’s heavily invested in his relationship and obviously MGTOW is contradictory/ thrrateningto it.

- Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

sidecar wrote:

He’s anti-MGTOW because he’s a whore with a product to sell.

And MGTOW don’t need his product. MGTOW will never be his customers. In fact everything he tries to sell, MGTOW give away for free.

(He also has some definite trad-con leanings, so there’s that as well.)

tl;dr: f~~~ him

Bingo.
Same as Roosh.

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