A Woman CoWorker's Response to me becoming a Mgtow

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

Welcome Angelus,
That sounds well played, but still risky. I’m old enough to have seen a significant amount of bats~~~ crazy coming from women in my life. Every time I think I’ve seen it all, one of them manages to surprise me. I try not to let myself fall into the zone of thinking I’ve seen it all, because I don’t want to give them a chance to blind side me with some newly minted craziness that I haven’t seen before.

Honestly, I don’t think I would have had the guts to take the chance on being as honest with her about being mgtow as you did. I have been vague on questions like that for so long that it’s habit now. I probably would have said something like, “Someone sent me this and asked me to tell them what I thought of it…”, and when she predictably demanded to know what I thought of it, I would have said something like, “I’m not sure… ‘never heard of this before… ‘looks like something I’m going to have to read about… ‘maybe ask around some…”. That would have left her to volunteer her uninvited opinion on it and I could have frowned as if in deep consideration of her opinion and then said, “Hmm… I see… So, what brings you to my office today…?”.

As someone who outwardly appears to be ‘a catch’, I get these kinds of questions in different forms about why it is that I’m still single. The questions take different forms depending on the asker, but the goal is always the same: they want to know ‘why?’. Just by asking, they are announcing that they believe they are entitled to know. I see that in itself as offensive to boundaries. But since I can’t clearly define these boundaries in advance, I try to be civil in my response. That doesn’t mean that I forfeit that boundary, or that I agree that I owe them honesty when they don’t acknowledge the respect that they owe me.

I vary the response, but always keep it vague. In response to why aren’t you married? Any of the following will do:

“Well, a good woman is not as easy to find as it used to be…”
“I’m working on it…stay tuned, I’ll keep you posted…”
“Can’t really afford it…”
“I tried it once…’couldn’t afford the payments on it…”
“I’m holding auditions every weekend, just haven’t found a contender yet…”
<joking> “Can’t find anyone dumb enough to put up with all my bulls~~~…”

At some level, people figure out that I’m not telling them the real reason, but most realize that’s intended and don’t ask further. Guesses have included: playboy, peter pan syndrome, women hater, gay, greedy, loner… but since they are all just guesses, they can’t be confident enough to use them as attack platforms.

Like most others here, the truth is that I have seen for what it is the institutionalized relationship industry that exists to transfer from me my assets, rights, freedoms and happiness to someone else who has no legitimate claim on them. But unleashing that tidal wave of reality on the average female or blue piller would be disruptive, and be used as an attack platform against me, so I’m vague instead.

Besides, fog is most useful to the guerrilla fighter…

All that said, hat’s off to you brother for opening up a small can of reality and splashing her with it. Eventually, women are going to get the message one way or another that they have vastly over estimated their value.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

That’s a really good point most of you made here (ie. SoulMan, flailer, Angelus and Keymaster)—> privacy to be kept what it is supposed to be private followed by three exclamation marks especially so at the work place.

Let me give you an example on how I handle this myself and that actually goes a bit beyond of all that: For more than ten years I work for a big corporate and yet local company (a TV station as it were) doing my techie like jobs every now and then a few occasional filming bits with very various crew constellations and we do have lots of different filming crews and crew members. Now the beauty of which being that very often I would work with the same crew only once during the course of a long while before doing so again, hence there’s hardly any need of private conversations in the first place and after all, the sheer size of the TV station is big enough (more than 3000 Employees!) that it easily can provide you with a big chunk of somewhat anonymity in a way that hardly any of my coworkers within that constant rotation scheme would ever even really give a damn about my personal life anyway in the first place. That would ultimately render it into the perfect spot for constant inane insignificant and virtually meaningless mere “small talk”. I am just a number there not even really a name at the very bottom of the ladder, although I again only worked myself up ever so slightly when it comes to occasional courier jobs ie. picking up or bringing back externally rented tech equipment from various partner companies but even that very aspect I firmly keep very much to myself there, knowing full well why… So as long as have worked there as I said for more than ten years, hardly any of my co workers really know me personally and I did keep very reserved and anonymous to probably at least 90% of them from the start and to this very day. In that I am viewed as the reliable courier driver to some co workers from the appropriate tech department and the mostly very helpful guy to the fellow crews’ members, whilst I keep pretty much living a double life in a way, because again hardly anyone there knows me really well enough like how and who I am in private. The few exceptions to that rule were handpicked by myself and I can easily count them on one hand, probably only three or four that I slightly opened up to and all of which are male who I deemed trustworthy. As for all the others they never gave too much of a s~~~ about me and I never gave too much of a s~~~ about them, but just do my stuff there in my steadily dwindling “day job” which could not even any longer be described as one. Other than that working on the freelance market doing my occasional odd sound jobs during filming with my own equipment, again with various other freelance crew people and even there it’s quite the same kind of story, so yeah I would almost describe what I do as sort of “ghosting at work” and for the most part responsibly so on my own. So much said for that.

 

Ned T.

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[Anonymous 42]

@angelus, I must somewhat oppose with others here; If some chick with a pink M-16 (after being threaten by extremists) is willing to entice them with directions all the way to her house from terrorstan, airport routs, highway directions and all, and left a valid email address too; doesn’t that make us look like a bunch of pussies? This movement is going to get faces, weather we like it or not, and I like “Bad Pops” redonkuless.com he cracks me up! He has an honest face, cause his face tells the truth.
Corporate environment is foreign me, I wouldn’t know? Say nothing seems to be the consensus when at feminazi inc.
Other than that, stick it up there ass, twist it home, then break it off! F~~~ feminism! I I spare no ones feelings in life, to spare someones feelings by hushing the truth is a brown-lips s~~~-nose kiss-ass if you ask me…..

[Anonymous 11]

Personally, I’d never mention MGTOW to a woman as you’ve really nothing to gain. Women can never be fully trusted. I speak as openly with my sister of my hatred of feminism as I do here, but I’d never mention MGTOW to her.

At best, you’ll get the classic NAWALT lecture. At worst, you’ve given them the ammunition to decimate you. You should never leave your fate in the hands of a woman no matter how safe you may feel.

Once MGTOW really hits the mainstream media, we are going to be portrayed as baby eating cannibals as we’re a threat to the gynocentric world order they’ve been actively pimping for close to 50 years. Run silent, run deep.

I do admire your bravery though.

Thanks MG-Tower, I’m trying to finish dinner 😉

[John DoeParticipant 743]

Everyone gave good advice here.  However, you are going to have to prepare you next move, or figure out what it is at least.  Women do not forget being reject, and you impersonally and without insult rejected her.  She will not forget this.  You environment gives the impression of being secure, but I can guarantee you that means nothing once a woman is involved.

On a side note, the story was funny.   Not good judgment if you want job security, but nothing is really secure these days anyhow.

[HimeoParticipant 471]

Law 38:

Think as you like but Behave like others.

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

Oh gawd mgtower,
how the hell do I UN-SEE THAT???!!! I don’t EVEN want to know where you go on the net to find pics like that…

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[DayrepSpectator 69]

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[KingOfTheSeaParticipant 1270]

Nice avatar.

Angelus wrote:

It really doesn’t have the same value for me that it once did when I was younger and many girls I’ve noticed also seem to enjoy men going “thirsty” for their own sadistic and manipulative pleasure.  

Yeah, the funny thing is that it’s more about status, I think, than anything else. I mean, if all of us only cared about the physical sensation, there wouldn’t be any stigma around hiring a prostitute or having sex with an ugly/obese/sexually loose girl. Once you take that away and the pressure within male groups to be having sex, the “need” for it seems to die down a lot more.

[Anonymous 14]

BrainPilot wrote:

Oh gawd mgtower, how the hell do I UN-SEE THAT???!!! I don’t EVEN want to know where you go on the net to find pics like that…

Seriously tower, a pic of a woman trying to be cute is gross enough you really don’t need to go to those lengths…calling control tower..control..control..are we clear to land? 😛

@angelus

Nothing more to say here other than what has already been said except..

[Anonymous 11]

That vile pic proves MG-Tower is the grand poo-bah of “I don’t give a f~~~”

It could explain why the Brookline Vamp troll did not show up tonight.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Well then Im going to become the grand poo bah of “i don’t give a f~~~” too.
Anyone who posts scat / p~~~ s~~~ disgusting dead animals will be reduced to spectator.

Here is an email from a visitor:

2015.04.04 5:08 PM
From: Steven
Message:

Are there any standards for pictures on this site. So far I have seen pictures dead cats and scat. I find this gross and don’t need it in my life. If you have no standards then please delete Elmospeed. I will contribute to mgtow on other sites that aren’t so negative.

I would rather have Steven Here than MG-Tower.
We didn’t work our asses off to create this place so you could ruin it for others.

Today an 18 year old kid showed up and asked for suggestions on how to celebrate his birthday.
Soul man posted a f~~~ing sick picture of a crackwhore.

Don’t treat MGTOW like this.

That’s all. It makes me very sad that you would do this after all we have done.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 11]

@Key: You are the grand poo-bah. Words heeded over here.

[Anonymous 14]

Thing is we all tend to get carried away sometimes. As a man I can understand another man who has the tendency to lose control because I too lose control sometimes(a lot) and I’m not a f~~~ing hypocrite like a woman to criticise someone for doing something that I do all the time.

But you see this place, its great. Its perhaps the only place on the internet that I am allowed to be myself and not act like a castrated little sheep.
I love that and I’ll admit that I am addicted to this place. I tried to abstain, believe me cause I am the grand poo bah of abstinence. I am 31 and I have successfully abstained from sex all my life and I am f~~~ing proud of myself. But when it comes to this place, I failed. I deleted bookmarks, removed login credentials from browser memory even made my security software block this site because I felt I was getting addicted. I even thought of sending an email to Keymaster asking him to ban me. But then after not coming here for some day I felt uneasy and sad. Nowhere to let out all the steam I accumulated from all the feminist bulls~~~ everywhere. Then I realised, what I was trying to do was stop myself from being me just as the misandrists the world over are trying day and night and that’s unacceptable. I will not stop myself from being myself anymore. Period.

This place is like a beautiful, Eve free, Garden of Eden so let us all join hands in maintaining its sanctity and practice some level of self awareness against actions that will just provide fodder to our critics libelling our movement. Thanks.

P.S. Just a rant and spoken from the heart so apologies for any improper use of syntax.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I would ask EVERYONE who thinks there is ANY post of yours that lowers the image of MGTOW to s~~~ p~~~ and dead animals to please send me a link if you see it.

We will not allow someone to post ONE f~~~ing picture that negates hundreds of hours of production.

Please be proud of EVERYTHING you post and don’t treat this website like a playground.
We are not paid. This entire site is a HUGE cost and investment of our time.
Cleaning up s~~~ is the LAST thing we will do.

I am very upset at the moment.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[RennieParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Thing is we all tend to get carried away sometimes. As a man I can understand another man who has the tendency to lose control because I too lose control sometimes(a lot) and I’m not a f~~~ing hypocrite like a woman to criticise someone for doing something that I do all the time. But you see this place, its great. Its perhaps the only place on the internet that I am allowed to be myself and not act like a castrated little sheep. I love that and I’ll admit that I am addicted to this place. I tried to abstain, believe me cause I am the grand poo bah of abstinence. I am 31 and I have successfully abstained from sex all my life and I am f~~~ing proud of myself. But when it comes to this place, I failed. I deleted bookmarks, removed login credentials from browser memory even made my security software block this site because I felt I was getting addicted. I even thought of sending an email to Keymaster asking him to ban me. But then after not coming here for some day I felt uneasy and sad. Nowhere to let out all the steam I accumulated from all the feminist bulls~~~ everywhere. Then I realised, what I was trying to do was stop myself from being me just as the misandrists the world over are trying day and night and that’s unacceptable. I will not stop myself from being myself anymore. Period. This place is like a beautiful, Eve free, Garden of Eden so let us all join hands in maintaining its sanctity. Thanks. P.S. Just a rant and spoken from the heart so apologies for any improper use of syntax.

I always chalked it up to mgtower being a bit wacky. I guess it’s just the way he is. Though I will say that some of the pics posted by various people here lately are pretty gross and don’t conjure up good thoughts, ex: anime thing spewing blood from it’s snatch.

[Anonymous 11]

Like Triklops said this 24/7 feminist crap does build up steam within us. I watched some sitcoms tonight and the blatant femprop was p~~~ing me off to no end. Being red pill can be a burden.

@Triklops: I am proud of you for taking a stand for abstinence. I meet women I could easily score with fairly often, but I see the bats flying around the belfry and choose the same thing for myself. Now, when I meet one that is semi-normal then game on only for the short term though as I don’t do relationships.

[Anonymous 14]

Rennie wrote:

I always chalked it up to mgtower being a bit wacky. I guess it’s just the way he is. Though I will say that some of the pics posted by various people here lately are pretty gross and don’t conjure up good thoughts, ex: anime thing spewing blood from it’s snatch.

You should’ve seen some of the advice he gave me on a thread that is there no more.. 😛

Suffice to say that it was a thread I made while I was at my lowest and all the guys here, especially MGTower helped me get back on my feet. He was f~~~ing sage-like and I can tell you this that besides being whacky and gross he is one dude who seems to have been through a lot in his life like most of us and that makes him one helluva MGTOW! And I am proud to call him a fellow MGTOW brother.

Uh well so he has made a boo boo..we all do it sometimes 😀

 

 

[RennieParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Rennie wrote:</div>
I always chalked it up to mgtower being a bit wacky. I guess it’s just the way he is. Though I will say that some of the pics posted by various people here lately are pretty gross and don’t conjure up good thoughts, ex: anime thing spewing blood from it’s snatch.

You should’ve seen some of the advice he gave me on a thread that is there no more.. Suffice to say that it was a thread I made while I was at my lowest and all the guys here, especially MGTower helped me get back on my feet. He was f~~~ing sage-like and I can tell you this that besides being whacky and gross he is one dude who seems to have been through a lot in his life like most of us and that makes him one helluva MGTOW! And I am proud to call him a fellow MGTOW brother. Uh well so he has made a boo boo..we all do it sometimes

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want him gone. I’m quite fine with him. 🙂

[Anonymous 11]

We’re all a bunch of cats that don’t give a f~~~ as it’s part of MGTOW an essential part IMHO. I also think we can potentially push each other into a negative feedback loop frenzy.

We should look at this experience as hitting a boundary and adjust accordingly.

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