A theory on why attractive women would be anti-feminist

[J.D SilvernailParticipant 383]

I like her. My gut tells me that she is a NAWALT(impossible right). Only time will tell if I’m right or wrong. I hope I’m right.

I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.

[DaKayParticipant 68]

At first, do clear the confusion of some, this is not the girl that played this Boxxy-role. Channel-Info says her name is June, Boxxy’s name was Catie.

Boxxy’s Channel: Youtube – Boxxy

About NAWALT

I don’t think there is any real NAWALT in this world, imho NAWALT is just a momentary state some women go through but as soon as they get married or into a long term relationship this behavior will fade away.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

DaKay wrote:

At first, do clear the confusion of some, this is not the girl that played this Boxxy-role. Channel-Info says her name is June, Boxxy’s name was Catie. Boxxy’s Channel: Youtube – Boxxy About NAWALT I don’t think there is any real NAWALT in this world, imho NAWALT is just a momentary state some women go through but as soon as they get married or into a long term relationship this behavior will fade away.

NAWALT = a pattern for finding a mate?

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[DaKayParticipant 68]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

NAWALT = a pattern for finding a mate?

Possibly, but I also don’t think it’s just for finding a mate and it’s a little more complicated. Some get this NAWALT-Character because they were more influenced by their fathers then by their mothers during they grew up (my own sister is a perfect example for this, at the moment you would definately call her a NAWALT with her actual behavior). Some others just play a role to impress/for attention or whatever (which is the typical female manipulation and for this type, yes, here it is as you say).

For the first type I think it’s more a psychological thing of the pair-dynamics and playing the right gender-role within the relationship, as soon as they get into this they automaticly change over time driven by their subconcios needs and instincts. If the girl has a man she doesn’t need to behave like a man anymore or something like this.

For the second type we all now you can’t play a role and hide your true nature 24/7. But as I said, it’s all just an assumption.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Ok, thanks. I would assume that it is really hard to try to put up a front presuming that it is something someone else wants all the time, when you never get time for yourself at all.  Eventually, if the world isn’t to your liking, and with partner, that you are faking it, it will catch up.  I would say, in light of this, being MGTOW is much more sustainable, because you aren’t trying to impress anyone, just be yourself.  Of course, the world may not be interested in this, or women, so you do risk rejection and loneliness.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[DaKayParticipant 68]

Risking loneliness I think yes AND no, depends on how you live the MGTOW. If you run around and tell everyone “dude I am MGTOW and women are evil blablabla” and try to influence them with it then yes, you risk loneliness. But if not (and if you’re not one off the people staying at home and hiding from all social interaction) then you won’t, you will allways have friends so you are NOT lonely. But I guess in your case you have the subconcious hope of still finding a women for you sooner or later but thats just a trained thought in your head so kick that out, there is no such thing as “love to the end of our lifes”, thats just a stupid hollywood-myth (thats why I said in the “cut your cable-topic” its better to quit consuming ALL mainstream media to not get manipulated or influenced by this s~~~), human beings are just not biologically made for monogamy, that’s also just a thing you get implanted into your head by society and the media. I don’t know if you have read “the manipulated man” but if not, damn do it, this book is like a bible for mgtow, for me even just reading this completely eliminated even the smallest subconcious urge for settling down with a women for a longer period of time. 🙂

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

DaKay wrote:

Risking loneliness I think yes AND no, depends on how you live the MGTOW. If you run around and tell everyone “dude I am MGTOW and women are evil blablabla” and try to influence them with it then yes, you risk loneliness. But if not (and if you’re not one off the people staying at home and hiding from all social interaction) then you won’t, you will allways have friends so you are NOT lonely. But I guess in your case you have the subconcious hope of still finding a women for you sooner or later but thats just a trained thought in your head so kick that out, there is no such thing as “love to the end of our lifes”, thats just a stupid hollywood-myth (thats why I said in the “cut your cable-topic” its better to quit consuming ALL mainstream media to not get manipulated or influenced by this s~~~), human beings are just not biologically made for monogamy, that’s also just a thing you get implanted into your head by society and the media. I don’t know if you have read “the manipulated man” but if not, damn do it, this book is like a bible for mgtow, for me even just reading this completely eliminated even the smallest subconcious urge for settling down with a women for a longer period of time.

There is always a challenge of trying to find an identity when you remove about all external sources to feed you news about the world.  So, I can see what happens is a man who is so broken, ends up finding MGTOW material, and the “women are evil” material end up becoming his new identity and he will end up causing few others to want to deal with him, because his like a person is converted to a new religion and that new religion is his life.  Note, I am not speaking here of the factual nature of the “women are evil” material, just the application of it on a personal level for a man.  Broken people who get a new worldframe, and see it as liberating begin to tell others and see the spreading of “the good news” as something in their lives.

For myself one part of something in MGTOW that separates it from the rest of the manosphere, is the “going your own way” or the part where you work on developing an identity that is your own that works for you, and it doesn’t matter how the world responds.  What I see around the manosphere is a repeated fixation on the nature of women, and trying to understand women/feminism/gynocentrism, and never going beyond to work on one’s own life.  It is just keep discussing women over and over and over.  With MGTOW, I see a window to also focus on one’s own life.  And done well, you actually draw to you people who match your interests, and you can just do.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[DaKayParticipant 68]

I for one don’t think I will completely ban all women out of my life like some others in the mgtow-movement do, I will just keep a safe distance, that’s not hate, I am just careful because of knowing their nature. And that works for me at the moment, I still have a ton of friends and on the whole I am a really social guy who likes to be around others so I am not afraid of getting lonely. Furthermore I am still in the “early stage” of red pill, attitudes develop over time and not over night so even that actual behavior may change in the future, some mgtows also still date and that’s also not a problem if they know how to deal with or avoid problematic situations. But you are right, if you come from a desperate situation or have been badly broken there really is a danger to develop real hate. But it’s similar to religions – fanatism is always a problem and contra-productive. Women just are like they are. But as you mentioned in the second part of your last post, in the end you just have go an own way that YOU feel comfortable with.

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