A theory on why attractive women would be anti-feminist

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I will say I think ShoeOnHead is cute.  She might not fit every man’s interest in women, but I think she is cute.  I would say she is on the attractive side.  I think a good number of other men think this also.

Here is her Youtube channel:

https://www.youtube.com/user/Shoe0nHead

She has a LOT of subscribers and talks anti-feminism.  I have a theory here, at least why some attractive women would be anti-feminists.  There is the usual one related to wanting the attention of men, and I think generating responses akin to the traditional white knight view, where it is about trying to get laid.  By apparently siding with men’s issues, and being attractive, you get a LOT of men interested in you.  So, I see this as one.

But, deeper than this, what I can see is an attractive woman sees feminists totally undermining any advantages an attractive woman would have in getting a man.  Feminists work against the interests of physically attractive women, by getting men to get an increasingly unfavorable view of women and also by driving down standards by which an attractive woman would have a competitive advantage. In short, this second one isn’t just about the tactical side of personally getting men into you, but also the strategic side of the frame of mind being one of what is attractive.

Please feel free to share any thoughts you have on this.  I may be off, but I think I have seen something.

Part of what put this thought in my head was ShoeOnHead rating about feminist rage against Barbie dolls.

I would say, as a heterosexual man, and with MGTOW stuff, I am becoming aware of how I am reacting to things based on how my biology is wired, which I can’t say really has my long-term interests at heart.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

Even in her “Boxxy” days, I thought she was cute as well.  (I believe I was a senior in high school when she got famous, if not shortly after.)

It’s something about their sarcastic personalities towards feminists and the way they present themselves.  It also might have to do with my attraction to younger-looking women in general, I dunno.  I said the same thing not long ago about someone I know on Tumblr who’s rather popular, named “Krissi Pookie.”

I know I should tread carefully, as most women are still feminist and rebellious by nature, but at least they’re aesthetically pleasing…not like the feminazi bulldykes on parade.

EDIT: Shoot, I’m actually not sure if “Boxxy” and “Shoe0nHead” are the same person or not.  I’m getting conflicting sources here.  They look and sound EXACTLY the same, though.

[kizellParticipant 368]

Good looking women have very little interest in being active with the feminist movement.   Esther Vilar points this out beautifully in her book.

Basically if your are ugly, you are less likely to find a man to leech off.  But if you are hot, your chances of “easy” work are much more promising than the hard kind or work men have to face.  It’s a much better deal for her to manipulate a man into taking care of her than trying to get a tough, good paying job to take care of herself.

[kizellParticipant 368]

Deep down I highly doubt women care much about equality and feminism.  They don’t want work like men, live like men, go to war like men, and provide for themselves like men.  It’s just another form of man shaming.

Besides,  I love the idea of equality if it means no more abusive practices against men.  But this is not the kind of equity they desire.  It’s all about enjoying the benefits without taking on the risks.

The way I see it, you have to be all man or all woman.  Women should not decide to be part man and part women and get any respect

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Sorry for butting in RH but I just had to post this vid.

I will answer properly but this is precious:

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

kizell wrote:

Deep down I highly doubt women care much about equality and feminism.

Which is why feminism has absolutely nothing to do with equality and never has.

[kizellParticipant 368]

sidecar wrote:

kizell wrote:

Deep down I highly doubt women care much about equality and feminism.

Which is why feminism has absolutely nothing to do with equality and never has.

Correct.   I think feminism is more about man shaming.  Another masterful portrayal of manipulation,  the one thing we know women thrive on.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Scratch a feminist and you’ll find a Nazi.

@iliveagain, This is a great video.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Governor Megachris% wrote:

Even in her “Boxxy” days, I thought she was cute as well. (I believe I was a senior in high school when she got famous, if not shortly after.) It’s something about their sarcastic personalities towards feminists and the way they present themselves. It also might have to do with my attraction to younger-looking women in general, I dunno. I said the same thing not long ago about someone I know on Tumblr who’s rather popular, named “Krissi Pookie.” I know I should tread carefully, as most women are still feminist and rebellious by nature, but at least they’re aesthetically pleasing…not like the feminazi bulldykes on parade. EDIT: Shoot, I’m actually not sure if “Boxxy” and “Shoe0nHead” are the same person or not. I’m getting conflicting sources here. They look and sound EXACTLY the same, though.

Thanks for the last note.  I didn’t think they were the same woman, but they are similar.  They both have that cute, younger-women look that is appealing to men.  And add showing interest in things men are into, and you get a following by default.

Ravishing Rick Rude on YouTube also pointed this out about the Bellas doing the same thing:

What I see thinking from a MGTOW perspective is how much of human interaction is based around human sexuality.  When you look to step away from all that (I would say part of MGTOW at least has this in it), you see how much of it is focus and fixated on that.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

sidecar wrote:

kizell wrote:

Deep down I highly doubt women care much about equality and feminism.

Which is why feminism has absolutely nothing to do with equality and never has.

Who really cares about equality? Almost everyone just wants the world to be more favorable to them.  You have some guilt-ridden upper class folks who buy into “egalitarianism” and try to promote it, as to placate their guilt, and show themselves to be able to intellectually relate to the lower class folk.  You will get upper class folk in all different movements who end up feeling a need to have followers, so they push, “people of my type unite!” and then push a big and long persecution story of how they have had it rough, to get peons to line up behind their label, so they can get what their money can’t buy them, fame and respect by a large crowd.  They also have a desire to have a utopia on earth, so they will push for different issues.

When I say this, I speak about what is going on now.  There were actually justified civil rights movement in the past, where African-Americans were lynched, that is understandable.  But what we have now in the SJW side of things is a dislike of the current culture and values individuals have, and they want to change that.  Egalitarianism is merely just a way to make that more presentable.  No one really actually campaigns for egalitarianism, they just say they are one, because if you are gaining power, you want as much as can be that is favorable for you.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[WolfParticipant 890]

I don’t trust women period. Women like you described are chameleons.

[Anonymous 3]

Wolf wrote:

I don’t trust women period. Women like you described are chameleons.

Same with me.

They’ve had 50 years to speak up and were silent. What, attractive women only began to exist a few years ago? Come on now, what a lark.

Some of them are panicking because more men, especially quality men, are onto the game. Beautiful women, ugly women, old women, young women, liberal or conservative or whatever have you, they all take advantage every step of the way in any way they can. Feminism was the easiest way for 5 decades now, so they all giddily rode it for all it was worth.

Truth is though women don’t matter. The real problem is the government, their thug enforcers (cops) and their kangaroo courts. Whenever the government becomes large and powerful enough, it immediately seeks to oppress the masses and enrich the few.

[WolfParticipant 890]

Anonymous wrote:

Some of them are panicking because more men, especially quality men, are onto the game.

They are changing course in order to continue their manipulation of men.

JTO produced a good video analyzing a chameleon who initially identified as a feminist on her YouTube channel, but changed her label to women’s rights after she got a backlash from men.

I believe JTO does a good job of scratching the surface and exposing her for what she really is.

Amplifying Women (ism)

[Anonymous 5]

OP nailed it right away. Hot females being anti-feminist are just doing it for attention. They are just like those cam whores who get money to pretend they are playing video games. So many beta’s fall for that s~~~ and give them attention they crave.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Anonymous wrote:

OP nailed it right away. Hot females being anti-feminist are just doing it for attention. They are just like those cam whores who get money to pretend they are playing video games. So many beta’s fall for that s~~~ and give them attention they crave.

What are your thought on the other part, where they going anti-feminist, because feminism undermines natural advantages they have getting the best of men, by their natural physical attraction?  I see it as both.  I am curious what the thoughts are on this second point.

By the way, thanks for the comment here.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[WolfParticipant 890]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

What are your thought on the other part, where they going anti-feminist, because feminism undermines natural advantages they have getting the best of men, by their natural physical attraction?  I see it as both.  I am curious what the thoughts are on this second point.

I think both sides of the coin are self serving to women, and they are fundamentally the same thing.

First side of coin: they get men interested in them

Other side of coin: opposed to driving down standards of what defines attractiveness, thus potentially decreasing the attention they receive

Either way, the nature of women hasn’t changed. And I see both as an attempt to increase or maintain the attention they receive from men. In the dating world, a woman who does not receive attention from men has zero power and control over men. Marriage is a different story all together.

[DurdenParticipant 1051]

I don’t see why it really matters one way or the other. Feminism is not going anywhere for awhile. The politicians love the votes  and how easily influenced women are. The businesses love how they spend their money like the world is ending tomorrow. At best women my generation are just commodities to be drilled for a period and tossed aside. Literally a cancer.

I personally think it has more to do with money. Women just see a way to get attention or get paid to be an ideal in some guy who has not taken the red pill. There are hordes more simps than there are people who understand how the world works.

It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

Their just trying to continue the manipulation a little longer. It’s becoming on glued.

Most women probably don’t care about feminism, but at the same time they hate men.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Wolf wrote:

richardhutnik wrote:

What are your thought on the other part, where they going anti-feminist, because feminism undermines natural advantages they have getting the best of men, by their natural physical attraction? I see it as both. I am curious what the thoughts are on this second point.

I think both sides of the coin are self serving to women, and they are fundamentally the same thing. First side of coin: they get men interested in them Other side of coin: opposed to driving down standards of what defines attractiveness, thus potentially decreasing the attention they receive Either way, the nature of women hasn’t changed. And I see both as an attempt to increase or maintain the attention they receive from men. In the dating world, a woman who does not receive attention from men has zero power and control over men. Marriage is a different story all together.

Advanced species mating patterns is what I see it, and it is bull I really don’t have room for in my life. By the way, thanks for the additional details.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Anonymous 18]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

mrpops238 wrote:

OP nailed it right away. Hot females being anti-feminist are just doing it for attention. They are just like those cam whores who get money to pretend they are playing video games. So many beta’s fall for that s~~~ and give them attention they crave.

What are your thought on the other part, where they going anti-feminist, because feminism undermines natural advantages they have getting the best of men, by their natural physical attraction? I see it as both. I am curious what the thoughts are on this second point. By the way, thanks for the comment here.

My take is what women against feminism have is a phase. What feminism stands for, strives for, and aims for women in large doesn’t apply to a young, early 20s, attractive female. Akin to riding c~~~ carousal being anti-feminism is cool, ‘rebellious’, fun. Its gets one attention, appraisal, acceptance leading her to feel good. Now when she marries a man, lives with him, has his children, goes out in the workforce as a full-time career oriented female – the perception changes. There are countless young attention-seeking anti-feminists on YouTube. How many post-wall, divorced, single mothers speak out against feminism? She is in utopia. Life is treating her well. Let’s see how many feminist backed-up perks she discards at the footsteps of family court. My guess not one.

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