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Anonymous42You’re wrong Toad, Triclops (a member) is a virgin in his early 30’s, he’s from India, I admire him for his fortitude and told him so, I called him the King of MGTOW, and I meant it! Being a virgin is nothing to be ashamed about, I wish I never touched a woman! Becoming addicted to sex is an awful thing, many a men have lost their lives to disease and female madness…. You should look at things differently, You’re a rare sort! You’re like a polished gem that hasn’t been scratched yet! A lottery ticket that hasn’t been scratched. If I took out an ad looking for girls to pop your cherry, my email folder would fill up over night! The only problem you really have is looking at things the way other people want you to, what I mean is, don’t allow others to dictate your MAN standards. A real man is only concerned with truths, his honer, and his word, not what the world would mock him for, but rather he mocks the foulness this society expects of him, they want this cooperation just to fit in and make them feel better about the bad choices they made. Be yourself above all else, by doing so this will expose character defects in yourself that otherwise you would not see, and therefore never addressed by “yourself” for “self improvement”, Triclops has a good solid foundation of self respect, and an unwavering determination to remain himself. I like him,,,, that’s the fruit of character! People truly like you more when you stand firm in your beliefs, and don’t waver just to fit in someone else’s puzzle…… It’s like I can feel your confusion and I’m just trying to scratch that mental itch. The only thing wrong in this equation seems to be your over valuing women as if their oxygen or something, their not, their actually carbon dioxide and should be fed to plants….
@Toad- Much like what Tower mentioned I too know of a MGTOW that is in his 30s and is a virgin. He is my best friend and honestly I trust him more than most of my family. That V status provides purity and clarity of mind. I’m sure most in the community would rather can the instinct to mate if they could. That addiction to sex after the first time is bad and like a vampire, the more we go without it, the more desperate one gets. Trust me much like how one says to stay away from drugs, sex would be up there if you follow what many MGTOWs believe. Some like me area little more moderate and realize that I do not yet have the strength to elevate myself into the ranks of the hardcore MGTOW community as I do have a gf, but I do admire members like you.
wow! powerful words here, guys… it’s a new vision for me, really
I mean, i think that like always i was sceptical about all the movements, all religions, and all quacks that i think that i was a outsider about all opinions… finding people who see the world as clear as me it’s a unreal relief…it’ s almost a miracle due all the time i passed suffering…until now
of course you can see my hesitation tower, i’m surrounded by people who want to be married, who want to have kids, who pursuit girls all night long, even the fat, ugly, and crazys ones, and all think that they are the “real mans” and i a sick less-man who can’t get laid because it’s shy… People who , by street turns his heads walking to make sounds and gives away fre ego boost wherever they are for nothing more than a disgusting looks of the females… how can i stay in peace and think that i’m a normal human being when i can’t find another guy despite here who thinks the way i always do?…
and i don’t think girls are like oxigen, but you always have low phases where all your convictions crumble thinking: am i wrong about all things? i only have one life…maybe i need to reconsider all before it’s too late!…
i think it’s a normal thought consider that we are all men and our nature it’s being atracted to women and we need to use more than the others the mind fighting against desire to get control of our lifes…
it’s the brutal media in my country, the news, the feminist movements, the unfair laws, the goverment giving money to movements anti-men, the manginas, the white knigts… and i’m alone…
I need to be strong that’s all, it is why i’m grateful of all of you for your support words…
Anonymous42i think it’s a normal thought consider that we are all men and our nature it’s being atracted to women
Yes our biology is attracted, but through feminism our intellect is repulsed, until a man figures this out, he’ll never understand the confusion he feels about modern women, and will inevitably be abused and degraded, perhaps overtaken. Once a man figures this out, feminism and all its savvy can not EVER lead the awakened back to feminism’s spiritual darkness where he is only a servant drone.
Every body wants to get married>>>>>More like remarried! Far to many men and women have switched husbands and wives for another husband or wife of someone else, it’s a hypocritical bulging bag of bulls~~~, A real f~~~around on the married-go-round, it’s located on the other side of insanity’s plaza, next to c~~~ carousel!
Yes our biology is attracted, but through feminism our intellect is repulsed
Indeed. i must said that in some way i’m grateful to feminism for expose the feminine mind games and for spread the alarm signal to other men’s that there is something terrible wrong about consider half of the population like victims when they are profesional mind controllers and the don’t have mercy about making wrong decisions because finally they get eternal forgiveness from society…
When i exposed what a girl made to me, all -but a few good friends- said to me that she is not a bad girls…she ‘s only… a confused young woman…
That strikes me like a hammer and realize finally that they have never being remorse of anything because the society always will tell them that they are innocents of all act…
After that my anger and pride make a shell together and make me made a commitment to myself: Never again…
Still on it…
Anonymous42@toad, for a guy that’s isolated from other MGTOW, you really know your s~~~! I too was isolated and we think exactly alike! How real is that if you want proof that MGTOW is an organic community, and not a cult, nor any other degrading label to attempt at shamming or to humiliate us. We’re on the cutting edge of modern man’s transformed thinking to confront feminism, we’re as natural and normal as the air we breath, it’s the rest of society that’s become a synthetic toxin.
that’s the terrible sensation…that a film of science fiction like Matrix become my life for real…
it’s incredible but true…
i’m a lucky because i didn’t have to make any effort to stay safe in the past and now… i simply can’t physically and emotionally being close to any female…
so i’m not someone to be proud of it, but that’s me, without pretend, for real so…i must accept myself and keep going…much more strong now because i know i’m not alone and, maybe not around me in my “mangina country”, but in the world there’s more “normal” ones…
that gives me strength
Anonymous5I was lucky just because the last one that hurts me , wasn’t enough smart to keep with the lies and get from me “my things” and not only my remaining innocence…maybe because she was too young to realize that the play will get more benefits to her than a simple ego boost…
This is something just about every guy experiences but very few of us learn from. We simply conclude that this one was “Crazy”
Only the young, inexperienced or mentally unstable women reach their goal on emotional ownership alone. Just the ego boost of turning a guy into her own personal mangina is the pay off by itself. (and as every MGTOW knows, women hate manginas, even the ones they create)
Just “emotional ownership” in these ones will auto trigger them from NAWALT to AWALT, overnight.
They’re like a cat playing with a mouse. They’re not hungry for it’s nourishment…the play/practice just keeps them happy.The older and more experienced female and those with higher IQ’s will play the vulnerable princess till the marriage contract or the birth of the child.
It’s only then, when it’s too late and the claws are firmly set, that the NAWALT phase finishes, overnight.
It’s at this stage that he’s not dealing with the female anymore, he’s dealing with the state.
Their cute little personal romance will have devastating legal consequences enforced on many levels if he decides to end it.
The male then deals only with the AWALT phase for evermore.You’re right Toad, she would have been far better off if she’d kept up the game. But that’s your win and her loss.
If she’s as smart as the usual woman she’ll learn from this and the next guy won’t be so lucky.Then again, most are so conceited and believing their feminist propaganda now that they keep on playing their game for emotional ownership till their beauty doesn’t quite work so well any more at enchanting.
They then decide to play for real at entrapment.
They then realize they’ve lost their biggest card, their beauty
It’s then we hear the querulous chant ,,,,,”Where have all the good men gone?”You’re right Toad, she would have been far better off if she’d kept up the game. But that’s your win and her loss. If she’s as smart as the usual woman she’ll learn from this and the next guy won’t be so lucky.
That’s the worst thing about everything… I had lucky only because she don’t choose me as a main victim and only as a toy… i’m only “win” something because she have more time to play with the feelings of the other boys and men due her youth … When she decides to stop, she only need to do the thing that she had trained all her life, play the girl in distress and she will get any men that she wants, and then she can do whatever she wants with him…
Is like said that she only beat me and not kill me and i win and she lost… not at all: she never lost anything… only the victims aspire to have mercy and prey for a minor punishing…
That’s because i can’t never see they as a victims anymore because, finally…they never get what she deserved…
Toad, like I said, I’m also like you and have never been truly lucky with women, only when I put all of my effort, money and time in to it by going to clubs 3 times per week etc. was when I started to get women that were mostly for 1 night stands and nothing else, even if I wanted something else, and trust me, it is not worth it.
Sex with a woman is also difficult because your dick has to get used to a vagina after you’ve been masturbating for some time, it needs more than 10 sessions and stop watching porn to finally start enjoying a vagina more, and for the average human 10 session with one woman is hard to achieve because they’re always crazy and relationships with them don’t last long.
And like you said, you’re good looking, bulky, etc. and still not get anything? That proves how women logic doesn’t exist and they don’t even know what they want, I’m also the best a woman could get and for them to end up always f~~~ing terrible human beings is just the cherry on the cake to finally accept is not worth it to pursue those animals.
Thanks , bro, it means a lot for me, for real.. I was lucky just because the last one that hurts me , wasn’t enough smart to keep with the lies and get from me “my things” and not only my remaining innocence…maybe because she was too young to realize that the play will get more benefits to her than a simple ego boost… That was my trigger for MGTOW with no turning back… Now i am surrounded by “the normal people” who laughs at me because they think that i am a loser… Maybe in the future will realize that i was the smart one… I can’t turn my head back anymore, so… the path is clear.. Greetings .
You are who I want to be when In years to come. A happy winner and f~~~ those sad people.
i have my own house, my job, my money, my travels and my body trained and fit
My body likes girls and wants to have sex with them. Me ? It’s not worth it to me. I prefer my freedom now and individuality way more.
I could continue relationships and have sex, but I didn’t care enough, ever. I never had sex and now, I like that idea.
I was expecting more from women, and what I found did not impress me. I didn’t find a Unicorn or at least a girl I would care to see 24/7 or take s~~~ from or even care past few dates.
Yeh, there are many things: sexual urge/drive as your mind/body is programmed for it, societies pressure and shaming, it’s designed to guide you on a path of procreation.
But we don’t care for it or even casual sex, for one or other reason.
For me its not special or magical, its a boring chore with a c~~~ that may even suck out life and money out of me. Why bother.
So cheers, you are not alone and actually inspiring me to move on and enjoy the life I have a privilege having, and make the best I can to enjoy it.
Making money by helping people also drives me, and motivates me to live. And I enjoy spending that money even more. Money I earned for myself.
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In days that you feel like s~~~, for all reasons or no reasons, know that there is always a bright day ahead.
And live your life.
Again, thank you for your post OP !
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that’s the terrible sensation…that a film of science fiction like Matrix become my life for real… it’s incredible but true… i’m a lucky because i didn’t have to make any effort to stay safe in the past and now… i simply can’t physically and emotionally being close to any female… so i’m not someone to be proud of it, but that’s me, without pretend, for real so…i must accept myself and keep going…much more strong now because i know i’m not alone and, maybe not around me in my “mangina country”, but in the world there’s more “normal” ones… that gives me strength
I was thinking about it many years back and my conclusion was and still is:
You (or people like us really) should be proud : with all the s~~~ what happens around you, you are still alive and going.
It’s an incredible pressure that only you feel – what you think and believe about yourself tested and pressured everyday in your own head by the ideas, s~~~ storm from outside. I prefer to live in equilibrium with the society, but it doesn’t mean I need to trade in my sovereignty.
It’s impossible to describe what you feel day to day. Only you 100% know the pressure in your head that occurs.
And you think trough it and move on. I use a mixture of a good tea, good music and logical thinking, common sense that is not so common anymore. I choose a glass of good Armenian or French cognac/brandy to relax over any porn star, any day.
You define yourself, not the society around you or people what want you to feel like s~~~. It’s psychological warfare happening on you.
It takes willpower to define yourself, especially in this times.
So there is something to be proud of for yourself by yourself, you will feel it and know it when it happens. That can be a very strong boost to you, to stay on your path and be more happy in general.
I wish you the best and hope that my post was not out of place. Today is especially sunny and a long post felt in order. 😀
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Anonymous42I was lucky just because the last one that hurts me , wasn’t enough smart to keep with the lies and get from me “my things” and not only my remaining innocence…maybe because she was too young to realize that the play will get more benefits to her than a simple ego boost…
This is something just about every guy experiences but very few of us learn from. We simply conclude that this one was “Crazy” Only the young, inexperienced or mentally unstable women reach their goal on emotional ownership alone. Just the ego boost of turning a guy into her own personal mangina is the pay off by itself. (and as every MGTOW knows, women hate manginas, even the ones they create) Just “emotional ownership” in these ones will auto trigger them from NAWALT to AWALT, overnight. They’re like a cat playing with a mouse. They’re not hungry for it’s nourishment…the play/practice just keeps them happy. The older and more experienced female and those with higher IQ’s will play the vulnerable princess till the marriage contract or the birth of the child. It’s only then, when it’s too late and the claws are firmly set, that the NAWALT phase finishes, overnight. It’s at this stage that he’s not dealing with the female anymore, he’s dealing with the state. Their cute little personal romance will have devastating legal consequences enforced on many levels if he decides to end it. The male then deals only with the AWALT phase for evermore. You’re right Toad, she would have been far better off if she’d kept up the game. But that’s your win and her loss. If she’s as smart as the usual woman she’ll learn from this and the next guy won’t be so lucky. Then again, most are so conceited and believing their feminist propaganda now that they keep on playing their game for emotional ownership till their beauty doesn’t quite work so well any more at enchanting. They then decide to play for real at entrapment. They then realize they’ve lost their biggest card, their beauty It’s then we hear the querulous chant ,,,,,”Where have all the good men gone?”
@****, well spoken, you’ve drawn truth from the well of reality and understanding. Very wise, it speaks volumes. Well spoken!
Sex with a woman is also difficult because your dick has to get used to a vagina after you’ve been masturbating for some time, it needs more than 10 sessions and stop watching porn to finally start enjoying a vagina more, and for the average human 10 session with one woman is hard to achieve because they’re always crazy and relationships with them don’t last long.
I never think about that in that way, interesting. i Haven’t any friend with talk about it properly. The only think that they told me about was: “well, maybe you were nervous or the condom was so thick and because of that you can’t felt anything…don’t worry…” But yes, when i decided to make me a circumcision i thought about that it will be better for a safer sex, but what i didn’t know was that my sexual drive will be fall to a unknown limits… but there is no turning back for this so i must to accept it and i always make a question to my self:
Which is worst: having a strong sexual drive and no options like in my youth and suffer because of it…or not having a lot of sexual drive like now and stay calm and relaxed the majority of time and only be worried when i have a rare occasion to get laid?
I don’t have to answer this because my reality is what it is…i can change that so…why bother?
And like you said, you’re good looking, bulky, etc. and still not get anything? That proves how women logic doesn’t exist and they don’t even know what they want, I’m also the best a woman could get and for them to end up always f~~~ing terrible human beings is just the cherry on the cake to finally accept is not worth it to pursue those animals.
That’s another powerful reason who keeps me away from them. I realized that when i act like a fake alpha asshole they seems to like me more…and i hate assholes, so: in order to get laid with, even the girls who seems to be nice and polite, i must to act like the men who make me want to punch their faces everytime i see their behaviors?… well, don’t count on me on this… i’m out…i can’t and i don’t want it… i won’t do it… no way…
The real Toad is a gentleman, a sportsman and healthy guy, a hard working one, a defender of the weaker, and a loyal and honorable one(or at least i try to be with all my power…)… So, sorry… you refused me in the way i think that someone must to be?: Then you are not a good woman…even if you think that a asshole is the form of a “real man”…
You are who I want to be when In years to come. A happy winner and f~~~ those sad people.
Well, thanks for that… i really mean it, brother…
I was expecting more from women, and what I found did not impress me. I didn’t find a Unicorn or at least a girl I would care to see 24/7 or take s~~~ from or even care past few dates.
Same here. The only think that atracts me now from them are the physical part…and a girl with a great physical part is not worth the work… and less in my city who even a ugly fat one thinks that deserves a Brad Pitt … no way…
So cheers, you are not alone and actually inspiring me to move on and enjoy the life I have a privilege having, and make the best I can to enjoy it. Making money by helping people also drives me, and motivates me to live. And I enjoy spending that money even more. Money I earned for myself.
Agree, sometimes i think that the fate keeps me safe taking away girls from me to enjoy the huge amount of thing that i like to do. I wonder if i can’t go , or do whatever i want whenever i want and i feel sick… Now i come from the job and i tired and listen to my partner : Now i must to stay awake because i have to go to take my children from school …and in that kind of situations, i love my life with all my soul…for real…
So, if i don’t want kids, i can’t trust women, i hate family meetings, i hate shopping, i have a lot of hobbies and i was my entire life alone and due of that, i can’t miss any relationship…
Why the hell sometimes i feel depressed?… Well, i tell my self: You are going to be depressed sometimes, right? get over it…, like a bad cold… it will pass…you are doing the right thing, and you know that… period
I was thinking about it many years back and my conclusion was and still is: You (or people like us really) should be proud : with all the s~~~ what happens around you, you are still alive and going. It’s an incredible pressure that only you feel – what you think and believe about yourself tested and pressured everyday in your own head by the ideas, s~~~ storm from outside. I prefer to live in equilibrium with the society, but it doesn’t mean I need to trade in my sovereignty.
Right, again. Now i feel weird sometimes, due to the amount of suffering i been through in the past: the pain, the incomprehension, the rejections, the laughs over me, the “good guy” sindrome, the nights awake , the thinking about the desire of beat people and even in my own dead, the weird feeling with the hookers wondering: what the hell i’m doing here? this is all about?…
And then finally the awakening…the discover of people talking about the truth…and the relief… it’s almost a miracle… sometimes i wonder…when i will suffer again because i’m so well that it can’t be real… no, because i’m still the same and the pain is gone?… it can’t be true… but it is… unbelievable…
So there is something to be proud of for yourself by yourself, you will feel it and know it when it happens. That can be a very strong boost to you, to stay on your path and be more happy in general.
I do.everytime i see me, i see the man that i wanted to be in my childhood.. even when the world doesn’t agree with me because they are opposite to me… great because i don’t like them either, so… GMOW… end of discussion
I wish you the best and hope that my post was not out of place. Today is especially sunny and a long post felt in order.
Thank you, man. I was beaten in the other forums, and i was rejected in the MGTOW community of my own country because they think i’m a troll…and here you told me support words?
Hell yeah, i can’t be better today…
I wish you the same better wishes amplified…
greetings
I’m just curious about the adult circumcision, I think that’s f~~~ed up, I wouldn’t have done it and yes the tissue they remove also takes with it a lot of the sensation, I was circumcised as a kid, I’m not Jewish but people do it around here, it has been proven it doesn’t really prevent STDs but if it is helping you to reduce your libido that might be a good thing, although libido could come back, when did you have it?
I’m just curious about the adult circumcision, I think that’s f~~~ed up, I wouldn’t have done it and yes the tissue they remove also takes with it a lot of the sensation, I was circumcised as a kid, I’m not Jewish but people do it around here, it has been proven it doesn’t really prevent STDs but if it is helping you to reduce your libido that might be a good thing, although libido could come back, when did you have it?
Since i made it, i search about it a lot. The contradiction is about that, as you said before, having less sex drive when you don’t have chances to getting laid, might be a good thing, but removing the natural skin that lubricates that part of the glans naturally, makes necessary to lubricate manually, with saliva or the natural lubricant that penis make…but you have to put yourself around the glande… With the natural skin, the lubrication happens automatically and you don’t have to worry about spread it well.
So in order to put a condom, which reduce the feeling, and having a glans with no skin, you need more prelimins that with the skin because the lubricant don’t spread well without it… Also if you use saliva in your glande i read that the condom might broke because of it…
That was why i didn’t feel anything with the hooker. I was nervous, she didn’t make me a blowjob without the condom, so i was not lubricate, and without my natural skin, even with the girl nude in front of me, the natural lubricant didn’t happen… so i didn’t feel anything… without the circumsition the things would be very different…
If you want more info i can assure you that today if i want to cum two times on a row i need much more suggestion than before, because when i had it, even the water from the shower made me suffer a lot of pain because of the extra feel…
In some websites i read that the pain i felt with almost everything that touched my glande is not a “sensation” properly said, that’s because they defend the circumsition as a good thing because, in their words, allows to enjoy the sex and not suffer for a ultra sensibility that happens without it…
I made it at 25 , the date of my first and only sexual experience with a woman… and yes, was as bad as i needed more than two weeks to even think about masturbation because it was a terrified experiencie expecting something enjoyable…
Now i have fear of try with “real females” because the hooker respected me, but now, with my age, and having to fake that i’m a alfa in order to getting laid, if some of them discover that i doubt about something during the act, i afraid to get mad because one of them might laugh at me…
That’s one of the much reasons why i don’t getting laid even now that i have, rarely, occasions to do it…
That’s my sad story, pal, i hope at least, it clear up your questions
Greetings
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