A man saves the day, and the job goes to a woman

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  • #710592
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    Merlin
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    I have not been on this forum since August. I am returning with another story to tell, and it reaffirms my MGTOW viewpoint, etching it in stone.

    I am a professional Realtor. I served as a volunteer on my local Association’s Board of Directors in 2017. The Association had a woman CEO they had running the office for 11 years, and it became clear this year that too many financial irregularities and problems with the staff, and how she was treating the members she was serving that they voted to fire her.

    The only problem is the board had no solution as to who would step in to take over in the interim and take control when they walked in and fired her. There were staff, and computer passwords, financial accounts, etc. to deal with. Plus there was a major legal program required to be completed by year-end, which the lady had not even started. This was one of many serious concerns, and the clock was ticking.

    At the meeting where the decision to fire her was made, I looked around the table at the other members and I knew they all had families. I did not. I also had business experience and had bailed out companies before. I raised my hand. I volunteered to step in and fix everything, and give them time to hire a new CEO. The only conditions I made were that I be given the current CEO’s salary as I was not going to do this for free. Also, I would have to do this full time and put my own business on hold. They agreed.

    A week later, a team of us arrived at the office. She was fired and I took over.

    The project took me four months. In that time I straightened out all the accounts. Cut 30% of the budget. Cut over $70K in wasted money from redundant services, useless subscriptions and found thousands of dollars of overpaid services. I also found the place was being run with 35% delinquent accounts, and I put a staff member in charge to work on collections and got that number down to 4%. Long story short, I straightened out the financial accounts.

    I also trained staff on customer relations and service, and built a website from scratch. On top of it all, I worked day and night and even weekends and completed the legal submission that was required to preserve the charter by the end of November.

    During this time, I originally did not have the intention of applying for the job full time. Over the weeks, when the staff and membership saw the improvements, I was repeatedly asked to apply. Several board members encouraged me as well. I finally decided to do so, and submitted my resume.

    The board President had appointed a hiring committee of 3 people. In retrospective, this should have been a major red flag. The hiring committee was chaired by a strong willed feminist, one indifferent man and another man who had just recovered from some serious health issues. I will give you one guess who ran the committee. Logic in retrospect would suggest that a larger committee of 5 or 7 members should have been appointed for such an important decision, so avoid corruption.

    Out of 50 applicants, I was among the final three. I was the only man in the final group.

    When the process started, I was told that two finalists would be submitted to the board for final interviews and voting, and the Board would conduct these interviews and make a selection. When the last interviews with the hiring committee came to me, I did not give it as much effort as I wrongly assumed that my production was going to be taken into account. After all, the changes were huge. The buzz among the members was enormous. They had never seen such efficiency in 20 years, and so much customer service. Plus the organization was growing and the books were now in the black. I had found new ways to make revenue that were untapped, and the staff were happy and winning at their jobs.

    In the end this is what happened:
    1) The hiring committee submitted just one candidate to the board for vote, not two.
    2) The chairwoman of the hiring committee had written the letter of recommendation for the applicant who was finally chosen (Honest people would call that a conflict of interest. For example: It is one thing to have your kid to be on the team, and you decide to coach. It is quite another for you to assume the role as referee determining the outcome of the game your kid is playing in).
    3) The board being given only one candidate hired the woman.
    4) This woman has zero experience in real estate. However, they said she did a great interview.
    5) I was asked to train this new hiree. My first reaction was: If she is so superior to me in skillset, why does she need training? In the end, I negotiated a large severance package and agreed to apprentice her for 3 months after deliberating with counsel.
    6) The new hiree started, and she is the typical controlling woman who thinks she knows everything about organization. She also impresses me as a bit of an airhead.
    7) A week after she started, I received a call from another man in the Association who had learned I had not been given the job, and he incorrectly assumed I had decided not to take it. I told him what happened, and he was shocked. He told me the purpose of his call was to tell me that he had worked at the prior company the woman who was hired had worked at, and she was fired for lack of follow-through with the organization after two years. I later learned one of the staff had called and inquired on her references independently, and discovered the same.
    8) I have since learned that no one in the hiring committee called my references on my resume, nor could they have called the references of the candidate they hired, or they would have found out what I did.

    So in short, I spent 4 months saving an organization and in the end, I did not watch my blind spot and woman got control of the process and hired another woman with similar history to the one we fired.

    The advisers I consulted with recommended I leave in good graces, and do what is asked simply because this new woman will likely crash and burn, and they will certainly reach out to me again. The only thing is, I no longer want the job, and would probably decline the offer. I am leaving as the board asked me to simply because I have integrity and do not need enemies within the association I am a part of. I also promised to fix things, and leave it in better condition, and I did this 100X better than they expected.

    So a long story. Another MGTOW lesson for me. I will never do anything like this again. My plans are to open my own Realty company this year, and plan to actively recruit only men. My industry on a national level has shifted to 60% female. It is no surprise they have tentacles in every process now. I am going to become proactive on trying to change the playing field back in our favor again.

    #710605
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    MGTOWSTRONG
    MGTOWSTRONG
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    Thank you for sharing your recent experience. I’m going to disagree with you on one of your points. I don’t think you were not covering your blind-spot….. I’m of the opinion that you believed logic, fairness and accountability would factor into the decision making.
    Here’s the issue as I see it…..We as men focus on what we need to accomplish and barely notice what’s going on around us BECAUSE of that Lazer focus. We still cannot come to terms with just how petty, vindictive, incompetent, shallow and UNETHICAL that most women/feminists are.
    I’ve seen multiple examples of the flat-out lack of morality in the workplace: wether it be where I work or if I’m out and about in other offices. Women in the workplace are just downright evil. For those that disagree…..JUST OPEN YOUR EYES AND PAY ATTENTION!!!

    #710622
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    NerdTunneler
    NerdTunneler
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    As usual, they want the perks but not the responsibility…The upside I can see is that you are able to hone your skills for the business that you are starting…

    You got an affirmation of your strengths and what you can do. Plus, you got a free publicity in that the people in the know can rely on your business as they have seen how you handled a sinking organization. Good luck brother…

    I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...

    #710640
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    Merlin
    Merlin
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    136

    Here’s the issue as I see it…..We as men focus on what we need to accomplish and barely notice what’s going on around us BECAUSE of that Lazer focus. We still cannot come to terms with just how petty, vindictive, incompetent, shallow and UNETHICAL that most women/feminists are.

    You are right man. I was a laser focused fireman putting out the fires. I assumed others would honor their word, especially when some of the female board members told me I had their vote and they had my back in the process.

    #710641
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    BigD
    BigD
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    3024

    Wish you could tell us what company this was so we know not to use them or invest in them if they are public. However, I understand because this could DOX you. We do not want that. I know you will do great with your new business. Be well and keep moving forward.

    Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.

    #710648
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    Merlin
    Merlin
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    136

    As usual, they want the perks but not the responsibility…The upside I can see is that you are able to hone your skills for the business that you are starting…

    Yes, indeed brother. It rekindled my certainty on what I know I can do.

    I made my list of all the women who manipulated this process, and paybacks are coming. I am going after all of their businesses.

    #710654
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    Merlin
    Merlin
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    136

    Wish you could tell us what company this was so we know not to use them or invest in them if they are public. However, I understand because this could DOX you. We do not want that. I know you will do great with your new business. Be well and keep moving forward.

    It was an Association of Realtors, not a specific company. There was one woman broker in one office in the Association that manipulated the process. They are one branch of a larger national company. I do not want to name anything specifically, and probably have said too much as it is, but I wanted to share my story with MGTOW brothers. You guys are the only ones who get it.

    #710717
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    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator
    29101

    Merlin, thanks for sharing your story!

    Here are some of my observations on “c~~~s in the workforce” and #metoo did write all of that in stone.

    https://mgtow.com/forums/topic/burnout-why-we-quit-there-is-only-so-much-woman-bulls~~~-a-man-can-take/

    https://mgtow.com/forums/topic/c~~~-behavior-burns-out-the-workforce-as-well/

    Here is my workforce story. My former bosses’ C~~~.

    https://mgtow.com/forums/topic/how-we-men-regain-the-power-in-the-workforce-mgtow-for-the-win/

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #710740
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    Reminds me a bit of Steve Jobs. You obviously have nothing to worry about personally, as you are clearly a very competent and accomplished individual. Let the retards die, and never work for a woman.

    Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

    #710744
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    FunInTheSun
    FunInTheSun
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    I think you’re doing the right thing by leaving quietly. Let your resume speak for you. Let those idiots crash & burn! It will teach them a lesson. Meanwhile, you’ll be in charge of your own business and hire people who are as competent as you.

    Don’t let this get you down, you’re going to win. It’s just a matter of time.

    "I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

    #710772
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    Rhino
    Rhino
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    3477

    The best thing you can do is start your own company and do exactly what you said and take their business away from them. It has nothing to do with revenge and everything to do with you looking out for yourself and other men who want to help you build up your company. Don’t do anything underhanded just offer your customers and their customers something no one else in that organization can (mainly you being the asset) that they cannot ignore.

    You have the advantage that you are not tied down to family and you put long hours in and people value that in your line of business. Your success will be their downfall run with it and make this a learning experience. Also a word of warning the more successful you become and the more clients you take away from them the larger the target will be painted on you. Your competitors will come after you with underhanded tricks and lies because that is all they will have in the end because they won’t be able to beat you fairly. Learn to plan for this and counter it as best you can by documenting as much as legally possible.

    Good luck and thanks for sharing your story.

    #710796
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    Jake
    Jake
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    truth becomes self evident you helped you got paid chill only a job get them to give you a reference don’t take it personally smart people can see value they cannot what does that say

    #710813
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    IMickey503
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    Going in for business for yourself is hard. BUT LORD is it rewarding.

    You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

    #710853
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    Monk
    Monk
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    If I see a job advert that requires me to deal with a woman, I know not to even bother applying.

    C~~~s always employ other c~~~s, regardless of qualifications or experience.

    I made my list of all the women who manipulated this process, and paybacks are coming. I am going after all of their businesses.

    Buy their debts. Foreclose on their homes. Destroy them completely.

    #711078
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    BoB
    BoB
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    823

    Revenge is best served cold and with an amiable smile on your face as you slip in the knife.

    #711123
    +3
    Princekie
    Princekie
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    1042

    Thank you for sharing your story. Although it is possibly cold comfort, I have been in your situation myself in the past, and tendered my resignation shortly after.

    The organization that you work for is short sighted, ethically corrupt and quite frankly not living in the real world. Too many organizations in this day and age are running the exact opposite of a meritocracy (which is how the best businesses should operate) and operate on a politically correct or buddy system (it’s not what you know it’s who you know).

    It sounds like this job was set up for her. Not getting references in this day and age, and with all the employment legislation in place, is commercial suicide.

    My verdict? Karma is a bitch. Your replacement will crash and burn, or at least will put in a mediocre performance. Personally I would walk away from these dicks. F~~~ ’em!

    #711138
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    Narwhal
    narwhal
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    On the bright side, this may have saved you a lot of headache in the long run. If the board was foolish enough to let a feminist make the decision of CEO like this, and to allow the previous CEO to screw things up so badly in the first place, then they likely would screw up your life as CEO anyway.

    Personally, I like the idea of being a realtor, and have considered the profession myself. However, the field is littered with women, as both realtors and customers, and I don’t see how that could end well.

    Ok. Then do it.

    #711191
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    It'sallbs
    It’sallbs
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    I have not been on this forum since August. I am returning with another story to tell, and it reaffirms my MGTOW viewpoint, etching it in stone.

    I am a professional Realtor. I served as a volunteer on my local Association’s Board of Directors in 2017. The Association had a woman CEO they had running the office for 11 years, and it became clear this year that too many financial irregularities and problems with the staff, and how she was treating the members she was serving that they voted to fire her.

    The only problem is the board had no solution as to who would step in to take over in the interim and take control when they walked in and fired her. There were staff, and computer passwords, financial accounts, etc. to deal with. Plus there was a major legal program required to be completed by year-end, which the lady had not even started. This was one of many serious concerns, and the clock was ticking.

    At the meeting where the decision to fire her was made, I looked around the table at the other members and I knew they all had families. I did not. I also had business experience and had bailed out companies before. I raised my hand. I volunteered to step in and fix everything, and give them time to hire a new CEO. The only conditions I made were that I be given the current CEO’s salary as I was not going to do this for free. Also, I would have to do this full time and put my own business on hold. They agreed.

    A week later, a team of us arrived at the office. She was fired and I took over.

    The project took me four months. In that time I straightened out all the accounts. Cut 30% of the budget. Cut over $70K in wasted money from redundant services, useless subscriptions and found thousands of dollars of overpaid services. I also found the place was being run with 35% delinquent accounts, and I put a staff member in charge to work on collections and got that number down to 4%. Long story short, I straightened out the financial accounts.

    I also trained staff on customer relations and service, and built a website from scratch. On top of it all, I worked day and night and even weekends and completed the legal submission that was required to preserve the charter by the end of November.

    During this time, I originally did not have the intention of applying for the job full time. Over the weeks, when the staff and membership saw the improvements, I was repeatedly asked to apply. Several board members encouraged me as well. I finally decided to do so, and submitted my resume.

    The board President had appointed a hiring committee of 3 people. In retrospective, this should have been a major red flag. The hiring committee was chaired by a strong willed feminist, one indifferent man and another man who had just recovered from some serious health issues. I will give you one guess who ran the committee. Logic in retrospect would suggest that a larger committee of 5 or 7 members should have been appointed for such an important decision, so avoid corruption.

    Out of 50 applicants, I was among the final three. I was the only man in the final group.

    When the process started, I was told that two finalists would be submitted to the board for final interviews and voting, and the Board would conduct these interviews and make a selection. When the last interviews with the hiring committee came to me, I did not give it as much effort as I wrongly assumed that my production was going to be taken into account. After all, the changes were huge. The buzz among the members was enormous. They had never seen such efficiency in 20 years, and so much customer service. Plus the organization was growing and the books were now in the black. I had found new ways to make revenue that were untapped, and the staff were happy and winning at their jobs.

    In the end this is what happened:
    1) The hiring committee submitted just one candidate to the board for vote, not two.
    2) The chairwoman of the hiring committee had written the letter of recommendation for the applicant who was finally chosen (Honest people would call that a conflict of interest. For example: It is one thing to have your kid to be on the team, and you decide to coach. It is quite another for you to assume the role as referee determining the outcome of the game your kid is playing in).
    3) The board being given only one candidate hired the woman.
    4) This woman has zero experience in real estate. However, they said she did a great interview.
    5) I was asked to train this new hiree. My first reaction was: If she is so superior to me in skillset, why does she need training? In the end, I negotiated a large severance package and agreed to apprentice her for 3 months after deliberating with counsel.
    6) The new hiree started, and she is the typical controlling woman who thinks she knows everything about organization. She also impresses me as a bit of an airhead.
    7) A week after she started, I received a call from another man in the Association who had learned I had not been given the job, and he incorrectly assumed I had decided not to take it. I told him what happened, and he was shocked. He told me the purpose of his call was to tell me that he had worked at the prior company the woman who was hired had worked at, and she was fired for lack of follow-through with the organization after two years. I later learned one of the staff had called and inquired on her references independently, and discovered the same.
    8) I have since learned that no one in the hiring committee called my references on my resume, nor could they have called the references of the candidate they hired, or they would have found out what I did.

    So in short, I spent 4 months saving an organization and in the end, I did not watch my blind spot and woman got control of the process and hired another woman with similar history to the one we fired.

    The advisers I consulted with recommended I leave in good graces, and do what is asked simply because this new woman will likely crash and burn, and they will certainly reach out to me again. The only thing is, I no longer want the job, and would probably decline the offer. I am leaving as the board asked me to simply because I have integrity and do not need enemies within the association I am a part of. I also promised to fix things, and leave it in better condition, and I did this 100X better than they expected.

    So a long story. Another MGTOW lesson for me. I will never do anything like this again. My plans are to open my own Realty company this year, and plan to actively recruit only men. My industry on a national level has shifted to 60% female. It is no surprise they have tentacles in every process now. I am going to become proactive on trying to change the playing field back in our favor again.

    Set yourself up as a business turnaround consultant.

    Charge anywhere from £400 to £2000 per day.

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

    #720393
    +1
    Merlin
    Merlin
    Participant
    136

    Revenge is best served cold and with an amiable smile on your face as you slip in the knife.

    Oh they have it coming…

    #720397
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    Merlin
    Merlin
    Participant
    136

    On the bright side, this may have saved you a lot of headache in the long run. If the board was foolish enough to let a feminist make the decision of CEO like this, and to allow the previous CEO to screw things up so badly in the first place, then they likely would screw up your life as CEO anyway.

    Yes, since all the dust has settled, I have come to realize that. I started reading Trump’s books on investing, and kicking ass in business, and I am going to do just that. Thanks for your insight.

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