A friend just got rich

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

A friends kid just turned 18 and the child support stopped.

He said he just got rich because his take home is now $800 a month more.

Unfortunately, he still has lifetime Alimony.

He will help his son in tech school, his ex said he should just send the money to her because it would be easier that way and she would give it to the kid….

The kid needs money for college because the ex didn’t save one cent of the child support for the kids college.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[RoyDalParticipant]

I am all for him helping his son. Obviously, he should not send one cent to his Ex; she has sponged off the kid long enough.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Well said. Child support is fungible.

It all goes to the female.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[AvidAvariceParticipant 223]

She could at least put in a bit of effort to come up with a better excuse than that. How is it “easier” for him to give the money to his ex in order for the money to reach his son? The same way his alimony payments magically “reach his son”? I smell some bulls~~~…

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Yes, transferring the money twice makes much more sense than just once. Plus, it will still LOOK like it comes from her. Like he couldn’t set up an automatic deposit between two bank accounts….

I agree with AvidAvarice. Except that no amount of hamster wheel spinning will come up with a logical answer to a question that doesn’t have a logical answer.

Order the good wine

[CPT ObviousParticipant 2726]

I am making my last child support payment on the 31st. Pop the champagne cork. I am so glad not to be paying alimony anymore. Lifetime alimony is one of the worst forms of slavery legislated upon mankind. In every case where I have seen a woman getting lifetime alimony, she is shacked up with a guy milking both men.

But get this. My daughter texted earlier this month and said that she is coming to live with me next month because her mom “can’t afford” to support her even though daughter works and pays $500/month in rent. Apparently mom has a new boyfriend, and without my child support payments, she can’t be bothered to take care of her anymore.

"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

My opinion is she wants control, credit (look your dad never sends you anything), and to be able to skim of the top.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

CPT:

Congratulations! Win/win. No more payments to the ex and the daughter comes to live with you. I would take that deal in a heartbeat. Plus your daughter will be better off in the long run with her father’s influence. I take back my earlier statement: win/win/win.

Order the good wine

[Anonymous 1]

CPT Obvious wrote:

Lifetime alimony is one of the worst forms of slavery legislated upon mankind.

This is the first I’d learnt that such a thing existed. I don’t understand how this is feasible or what reason was given to pass this legislation. Supporting adults that should be self-sufficient? Why?

Just googled. This poor guy goes to prison on a routine basis for missing alimony payments despite not having the resources to pay.

$78,000 a year he was ordered to pay his ex wife.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-08-26/jail-becomes-home-for-husband-stuck-with-lifetime-alimony

[CPT ObviousParticipant 2726]

TaxGuy wrote:

CPT:

Congratulations! Win/win. No more payments to the ex and the daughter comes to live with you. I would take that deal in a heartbeat. Plus your daughter will be better off in the long run with her father’s influence. I take back my earlier statement: win/win/win.

Thanks TaxGuy. Indeed a good thing. But I am little concerned about my daughter because the mom’s influence over last 4 years has really warped her view. The older daughter I raised is a Junior in college and is 100% self-sufficient.

This daughter dropped out of high school within a few months of moving in with her mom and has bounced around from one minimum wage job to another. Good kid, but when I saw her at Christmas time, she has picked up some bad habits.

I told her that if she comes to live with me, she has to get her GED. There is a Community College just down the road that has a great program. Once she gets her GED, she can go to college and even live with me while she goes to school, or she needs to get a job and start looking for her own place.

To her, this sounds harsh, so she might not be coming out. But I strongly believe in getting her moving forward towards becoming an adult.

"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."

[XSDBSParticipant 3598]

CPT Obvious wrote:

I am making my last child support payment on the 31st. Pop the champagne cork. I am so glad not to be paying alimony anymore. Lifetime alimony is one of the worst forms of slavery legislated upon mankind. In every case where I have seen a woman getting lifetime alimony, she is shacked up with a guy milking both men.
But get this. My daughter texted earlier this month and said that she is coming to live with me next month because her mom “can’t afford” to support her even though daughter works and pays $500/month in rent. Apparently mom has a new boyfriend, and without my child support payments, she can’t be bothered to take care of her anymore.

This exact thing happened to a college friend of mine.
Long story short, the day the child support ended, the ex-wife kicked the daughter out, even though the daughter had a job and was paying 1/2 rent where they lived.
The daughter then wants to move in with the father, expecting him to give her a (free) place to stay, and support her.
Turns out the ex kept/spent the child support money on herself, and led the daughter to believe he never paid child support.
He never let her move in, he just wasn’t sure if the mother and daughter were trying to run a scam on him…

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

I had a surgeon friend in California who went through a divorce. After working 60 hours per week all of his adult life his stay at home wife ran off with a neighbor.
She claimed in court that she was too emotionally upset by the adultery to work again. The court went along with her. My friend lost his house, cars, and pension. His alimony was ordered to continue for 5 years even after he was dead so his ex could also grab any estate he could come up with. His ex of course has no intention of remarrying. She gets income from two beasts of burden. He lives in a one bedroom apartment, but at least has managed to stay out of jail.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

CPT Obvious wrote:

TaxGuy wrote:

CPT:

Congratulations! Win/win. No more payments to the ex and the daughter comes to live with you. I would take that deal in a heartbeat. Plus your daughter will be better off in the long run with her father’s influence. I take back my earlier statement: win/win/win.

Thanks TaxGuy. Indeed a good thing. But I am little concerned about my daughter because the mom’s influence over last 4 years has really warped her view. The older daughter I raised is a Junior in college and is 100% self-sufficient.

This daughter dropped out of high school within a few months of moving in with her mom and has bounced around from one minimum wage job to another. Good kid, but when I saw her at Christmas time, she has picked up some bad habits.

I told her that if she comes to live with me, she has to get her GED. There is a Community College just down the road that has a great program. Once she gets her GED, she can go to college and even live with me while she goes to school, or she needs to get a job and start looking for her own place.

To her, this sounds harsh, so she might not be coming out. But I strongly believe in getting her moving forward towards becoming an adult.

I hope it works out for you and she comes to stay with you. Sounds like she does need her dad. It takes a father to teach personal responsibility.

Order the good wine

[HitmanParticipant]

Congratulations to your friend Jan. !
Congratulations to capt . obvious as well!
So far I skipped the alimony trap..The child support I can’t avoid. .
Cheers to you guys!

[BeerParticipant 11832]

CPT Obvious wrote:

But get this. My daughter texted earlier this month and said that she is coming to live with me next month because her mom “can’t afford” to support her even though daughter works and pays $500/month in rent.

Wow talk about double dipping…child support from the ex and parental support from the child…what a c~~~!

[the roadParticipant 3125]

Congrats to your buddy! I agree with everyone else, he shouldn’t send any money to her (beside what the court is forcing him to pay for alimony). The son is now 18 and is an adult. He should deal with his son directly to ensure that she can’t steal anymore of his money (which is what she was definitely doing all along).

#MANOUT

[The Moth Attracted to the FlameParticipant 2982]

Well, the kid getting the support he needs for his education and future career is there, so that’s something.

And I smell some bulls~~~ from the Ex.

[Anonymous 11]

Prefer Peace to Piece wrote:

She claimed in court that she was too emotionally upset by the adultery to work again. The court went along with her. My friend lost his house, cars, and pension.

Prior to “No Fault” divorce this would have never happened. Is there any justice? Rhetorical question.. Hell f~~~ing NO!

NEVER, NEVER marry under any circumstances.

Tip of the hat to all men no longer making child support payments. My friends who crossed over are so much better off now.

[MoonlightParticipant 223]

There’s a guy at my work who has paid about $100,000 so far on child support to his ex-wife who divorced him after she had been having an affair for years and he almost never gets to see his kids. His ex-wife is also married to the guy she had been having an affair with and he’s rich.

My co-worker currently earns about $400 a month to keep for himself and that’s with working full-time.

[ShinyParticipant 2307]

Anonymous wrote:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-08-26/jail-becomes-home-for-husband-stuck-with-lifetime-alimony

I just read that piece – near the end it mentions how the guy will be in gaol until he can raise $25000 in arrears (try raising money while behind bars) and its because, “he faced Firko (the judge) again yesterday to explain why he was rejected for a court-required $500,000 life insurance policy naming his ex-wife and children as beneficiaries.”

Court ordered life insurance. Because death is no excuse for not supporting your ex wife who hates you and keeps your kid from you.

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