A female James Bond is exactly what the franchise needs right now

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  • #246326
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    Unicron
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    SOURCE: http://qz.com/694612/the-case-for-jane-bond/

    If this guy got anymore bluepill he’d start menstruating.


    Whether you’re a man or a woman, James Bond makes being a superspy look like a pretty good gig. Agent 007 wears impeccable suits, drives cool cars, takes out the bad guys and sleeps with an endless parade of gorgeous partners. It’s no wonder actress Gillian Anderson would like to try the role on for size. Who wouldn’t want to be suave, brutal and sexily angst-ridden?

    Of course, there are naysayers. James Bond, the skeptics say, is the manliest of men. Take that away, and masculinity everywhere will dissolve into a feminized puddle, like in The Thing, but sadder and with a worse box office return.

    But speaking as a man on the issue of man things, if James Bond became Jane Bond, I’m pretty sure our gender would get on board. There is, after all, a fairly long history of manly enthusiasm for action films with women heroes. Ripley from Alien (1979) and Sarah Connor from Terminator (1984) aren’t quite as old as James Bond, but they’re both nearly as iconic. Surely they (and Mad Max‘s Imperator Furiosa, too) come across as much more convincingly badass than Roger Moore. If you want to stick to superspy assassins, there’s The Bride from Kill Bill. Uma Thurman could certainly rock a tuxedo.

    In her classic book on horror movies, Men, Women and Chainsaws, Carol Clover argues that men often actually identify more strongly with empowerment narratives that feature female characters. Clover points to exploitation slasher films, which inspired both Ripley and Sarah Connor.

    In these kinds of films, Clover argues, the woman is initially portrayed as being in danger, a narrative in tune with the cultural stereotypes about women as weak, disempowered, and endangered. Think of Sarah Connor in the first Terminator film, Clarice in Silence of the Lambs, or of Lisbeth Salander sexually assaulted in Girl With the Dragon Tattoo.

    But then, Clover argues, in the second half of these films, the tables are turned. Suddenly, the weak, vulnerable woman seizes the knife/axe/improbably large gun, and overcomes the alien/android/serial killer/whoever. The empowerment fantasy is more intense and more complete because it starts as a disempowerment fantasy.

    Women are allowed on screen to be more vulnerable than men. For example, there’s a scene in Kill Bill where the Bride is reduced to wailing and begging as Bill shoots her in the head. She’s totally bereft and defeated. But her emotional loss and the totality of her disempowerment only makes her more fearsome when she wakes from her coma and begins slaughtering her way towards vengeance. The further down you are, the more satisfying it is when you slice up 200 ninjas.

    James Bond, on the other hand, never loses his cool. Even when he’s having his genitals tortured in Casino Royale, he still laughs defiantly. This means the empowerment fantasy always lacks a certain dynamism. Bond starts at the top and stays at the top, running through the same Bond formula as ever, year after year, always debonnaire and unflappable, always—kind of dull. Maybe there’s a Bond scene as gritty, heart-breaking, and ultimately triumphant as the scene at the end of Terminator II with Linda Hamilton c~~~ing her shotgun with her one good arm and driving the evil terminator towards the molten pit. But I sure don’t remember it.

    In keeping with old-fashioned standards of masculinity, guys are supposed to always remain in control. But (big reveal!) the vast majority of men, the vast majority of the time, are not. We feel disempowered, overwhelmed, endangered—all the emotions that the rules of cinema don’t allow Bond to display.

    But women action heroes have access to a wider palate of emotions. Although women onscreen are often given smaller, more stereotypical, less nuanced roles than men, in action films, they can shine. When they’re given lead roles, they often have more latitude, range, and development than men would.

    It seems unlikely that the Bond executives would tinker with their tried and true—not to mention lucrative—formula. The films are consistent money-earners, and last year’s bloated, tedious Spectre showed just how unimaginative and hidebound the creative forces behind the franchise are.

    But if they did choose Gillian Anderson, film history suggests we might finally get a Bond who is vulnerable, scrappy, and determined, with harder-won victories. That’s way more cool. Jane Bond would give the franchise a chance to create a better empowerment fantasy—for people of every gender.

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    Phil
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    I agree Bond films always have pussy galore!

    #246334
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    Jan Sobieski
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    James Bond is a man.

    Let them make a new movie with a new back story.

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    #246357
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    Mr. Spock
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    I agree. Hollywood is desperately trying to sell the whole girl power theme. You’d think that they would’ve learned with the new Star Wars and Ghostbusters movies.
    The James Bond franchise has flourished for decades. Why would this simp even consider such a stupid thing? Besides, they already have an original action heroine with Laura Croft.
    Maybe Noah Berlatsky has a thing for Gillian Anderson but nevertheless the mangina is strong in this one.

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    Rennie
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    I’ll say it again.

    No to Jane Bond and if they do. I will not watch it and I will instead go out and spend the money on DVD’s of the early Bond movies – the ones that are supposedly “misogynist and sexist”.

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    MonkeyMind
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    Gender blending well established characters rarely works out well. Newspapers only run these kind of articles because they know it will polarise peoples opinions and generate click-bait.

    I suspect that deep down, even they know that this would kill off the franchise.

    #246392
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    IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)
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    Paul Feig’s Spy just popped into my head. Now I need to find a way to make myself intentionally forget this 😛

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    RedpillPrimate
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    As far as I’m concerned, James Bond is already a dead franchise. I only watch the older movies. Not these modern s~~~ for brains movies they call James Bond.

    Hollywood panders to women so much it’s nauseating.

    I even realized after watching X-men Apocalypse, that pretty much every superhero movie made since the first Iron Man movie, the female heroes and villains never get injured badly like the male superheroes do.

    SJW bulls~~~ is strong within modern movies.

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    Globemaster
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    I think there was a april fools joke on this.

    If a female 007 film was produced,it will chase away some fans but will increase the audience for the franchise.

    Women and blue pills love movies with a woman as the lead and the guy as a comic relief.

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    The Skank Spanker
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    We need female Ghostbusters.

    We need a female James Bond.

    And then they wonder why the ratings suddenly drop. A woman can’t do a mans job. GTFO.

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    Every single thing that gets feminized turns to s~~~.

    Maybe She-Bond will get raped by a goat f~~~er and like it.

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    The Skank Spanker
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    Maybe She-Bond will get raped by a goat f~~~er and like it.

    She will probably shoot herself in the foot or lauch a brand new Aston Martin into a swamp because she thought it was in Neutral. I’d sign up to see that version though 😀

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    Jan Sobieski
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    Don’t forget a female Indiana Jones.

    Just puked a little.

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    ResidentEvil7
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    Don’t forget a female Indiana Jones.

    Just puked a little.

    Technically they do have a female Indiana Jones: Lara Croft. I mean that in a literal way, because originally in the first Tomb Raider game, there was suppose to be a male adventurer, but fans would of been confused with Indiana Jones and decided to go with a female heroine Lara Croft.

    Anyway, a female Bond, female Ghostbusters, making the remake of Adventures In Babysitting more girly-girlish, all black Honeymooners, and more social justice bulls~~~? What’s next? Transgendered Goonies (if they made a remake), a Hispanic Austin Powers, all girls in Lord Of the Flies?! When does this idiocy end?

    There was even a woman on FOX News on the Greg Gutfeld Show the other night that said that Trump should pick a woman to be his VP pick, and that woman need to take over all movie roles that men have done, and she won’t rest until it happens. That was scary to hear that blond four-eyed bitch say that; I almost lost my beer and hot dogs I just digested.

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    #246464
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    Untamed
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    Jane Bond my ass. If what James was doing was just about impossible in real life then what Jane will do will be hilariously ridiculous!

    As far as I’m concerned, James Bond is already a dead franchise. I only watch the older movies. Not these modern s~~~ for brains movies they call James Bond.

    I agree, RedpillPrimate.
    I hung it up when Brosnan quit. My brother and I had always thought he’d make a good James Bond way back in the 80’s when he was in Remington Steele tv show.
    They don’t make ’em like they used to. All things have an end R.I.P Bond James 1962-1999

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    #246466
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    RedpillPrimate
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    I agree, RedpillPrimate.
    I hung it up when Brosnan quit. My brother and I had always thought he’d make a good James Bond way back in the 80’s when he was in Remington Steele tv show.
    They don’t make ’em like they used to. All things have an end R.I.P Bond James 1962-1999

    Definitely. I loved Sean Connery’s James Bond the most, but Brosnan was also a good portrayal of James Bond. The newer James Bond (Daniel Craig) is a f~~~ing mangina.

    Older movies before 1999 were definitely the best of the bunch.

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    Hellraider
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    F~~~ gillian andersen and the rest of the feminazis, james bond is A MAN WITH BIG BRASS B~~~~.

    He is the last role model for young boys, feminazis whant a female wolverine and a gay captain america.

    This is a deliberate attempt at destroying male values and virtues.

    #246531
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    Mp357
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    i gave up on modern bond movies, last one i saw the opening scene was him chasing a helicopter and shooting at it with a mouse gun .380, then taking shots at a f~~~ing train with the same pea shooter. so dumb

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    Rennie
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    I agree, RedpillPrimate.
    I hung it up when Brosnan quit. My brother and I had always thought he’d make a good James Bond way back in the 80’s when he was in Remington Steele tv show.
    They don’t make ’em like they used to. All things have an end R.I.P Bond James 1962-1999

    Definitely. I loved Sean Connery’s James Bond the most, but Brosnan was also a good portrayal of James Bond. The newer James Bond (Daniel Craig) is a f~~~ing mangina.

    Older movies before 1999 were definitely the best of the bunch.

    Sean Connery was certainly the best. I only liked Goldeneye and Tommorow Never Dies from Brosnan. From TMND to Die Another Day they stories and gadgets just seemed to get worse and worse.

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    Grumpy
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    A lot of good and valid points here gents.
    Please bear with my forth coming deluge of verbal and mental diarrhea .

    I believe a lot of men would get on board with a female 007, not a “Jane Bond”, unless there was a believable SOLID back story for the new “Bond”.

    If the name continues she would have to be his daughter, period, full stop.
    Remember James Bond is the characters birth name, not a made up secret agent code name, 007 is his code name.
    The position of 007 can always be filled by others, what made James Bond sell-able was him, his character, his traits, and his exploits.

    The hard part of finding a mother for “Jane” would be finding one woman that lived after an intimate time with Mr. Bond. IIRC all the women he bedded, ahh, died shortly there after. There has always been some chemistry between him and Moneypenny so that could be an option.
    That is a plausible back story, develop her character, introduce the relationship develop and solidify the tie in.
    Make it personal, because the only way to replace James Bond is to kill him off, and the person wiping the board clean has to be 100% better than him in everything, even when he is not a top performance level. They opened that option in Skyfall (?). remember him “losing his edge”?

    The key is the back story for “Jane”, her development, where she fits in, why she is who she is. Make her human, with a life story. Not just another bulls~~~ “poof” shes here, she’s awesome, and don’t need no man feminist bulls~~~ fantasy. That will just kill another franchise.

    Bring her in as a side story at first, blend her in like cream into that first cup of coffee in the morning. Let the flavour and taste of her character develop, let us see her grow into her role. Tie it up and make that tie in BELIEVABLE.
    IMHO, once belief is established in a character and a story line, people can and will suspend logic for a good amount of time, and will allow more flexibility. There just has to be a logical flow to it.

    We know what the end game is, just stimulate, entice, entertain me (us) with the whole story. Draw me in to it, for gods sake, make a decent story that I would want to follow, not just tune it out because it has some more frigging frigging SJW claptrap.
    Keep clear of any SJW/feminist bulls~~~ tie in, and get a good actress to play her. She doesn’t have to be “stunning”, just fit and pretty enough to get the job done. You can glam her up later if need be’

    A good closing scene would be (if James Bond lives).
    James and Jane walking out of headquarters, slightly bruised and a tad worse for wear. Acknowledging their relationship quietly, and discussing the mission they ended up finishing together.
    Jane: “Things were going well at first”
    James: “Then what happened?”
    Jane: “Well, I had a cunning plan”
    James: “Alright Baldrick”

    Entertain me dammit, and make me want more. For mercy’s sake start making Movies that people will remember again. Flash is gone in an instant, give us some substance.

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