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The surprising part of this story is truly that you could comfortably read a book in a restaurant. How do you do it? I need library silence, or I get distracted.
". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée
The surprising part of this story is truly that you could comfortably read a book in a restaurant. How do you do it? I need library silence, or I get distracted.
Practice, constant practice. Also, I was reading for pleasure and not study. I’d never read a report, for example, in a situation where I couldn’t give it my full attention.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
Damn how’d it turn out? I don’t think i’ve ever had! How’d you cook it? Thinking about expanding my (rudimentary) culinary skills & giving pheasant a shot.
Turned out perfectly. I don’t remember how long it was in (maybe an hour?) at 450 degrees. It’s about the size of a large cantaloupe. Smaller than I thought. You put it on your plate whole. I took the butcher’s recommendation and prepared it like he told me. Saw this little bird in the window and couldn’t resist. I said “what’s that?”. He said pheasant, I said OK I’ll try it.
Haven’t made it since.
You can tell it’s done by looking at it. Then blacken it a little on broil (550) for a few minutes. It looks amazing, because it’s not like “pieces” until you dig into it. Like a petit chicken… but darker meat. Spiced it with rosemary , lemon and butter. YUMM.
Roast some veggies (or potatoes) and it’s a dinner for a King.
I’ll never forget that New Years Eve.
The surprising part of this story is truly that you could comfortably read a book in a restaurant. How do you do it?
Same. Would only bring a book to a restaurant to make LIKE I’m reading and listen to neighboring conversations.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Completely awesome, Old Bill.
I have happily eaten out by myself many hundreds of times. Sometimes people have stared, but who cares? My happiness is in no way dependent upon the opinions of random assholes, male or female. They can all simply kiss my ass.
I have traveled to many corners of the world by myself, and women have often wondered how I could enjoy that. A man has NEVER asked me that. The envy on the faces of the men told it all, as they schlepped the baggage and held the purses while the wives bought all manner of expensive s~~~ to be carted home, and bitched about them, the food, the rooms, the taxi, the weather, everything.
I’d much rather travel alone than be dragged around by an annoying, post-menopausal bitch, and I’d rather die alone than live with one."I am is reportedly the shortest sentence in the English language. Could it be that I do is the longest sentence?" - George Carlin
I’d much rather travel alone than be dragged around by an annoying, post-menopausal bitch, and I’d rather die alone than live with one.
Or, I’d rather die alone in a few decades than die alive starting today.
= ~
Every man married dies twice."It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
This was definitely a great story. I wish more manginas had experiences like that night. At least more men, young and old, are waking up and becoming MGTOW. I’m in my mid 20s and became MGTOW before making really horrible decisions and have learned from the mistakes of men before me.
I’ve also had experiences like that were staring at me when I was eating out. They would make it so obvious their night was about me anyone who was in shot could hear it. I don’t eat out that often because of s~~~ like this. No matter how stoic you are, it just grades on you if you endure it for too long. Which is why one main reason I definitely prefer to eat alone at my place. The only times I actually eat out now by myself is when I’m out of state traveling.
There are two or three places around where I live where I go to eat on a regular basis, alone.
Being known as a regular, patient customer (everyone has an off night) and a good tipper, I recognized some things from my experiences with good dining.
The first was that they (quickly from my impression) offered you another table. Smart owners don’t like to see good customers annoyed.
The second was that, sadly, some dull witted bitch simply could not be satisfied with making “her man’s” life miserable, but wanted to spread even more misery.
For example, there is a very small “hole in the wall” bar I go to from time to time. From every appearance, and for the most part in substance, it is a “dive” bat with a lot of country music. But when they do their monthly “steak night”, it is simply the very best meal in town.
The owner is friendly, has good staff, takes time to make sure the jukebox is loaded with music the patrons like and has bouncers to make sure nobody gets to make trouble. The cook for Steak Night (really, I should call him a chef) puts a lot of work into everything from selecting the ingredients (top notch, no question) to preparing the salads and entree perfectly. They even have good wines if you know to ask. They even have accommodated me for years by letting me use a dark, forgotten booth in the corner so I can plug in my laptop and get free wifi, so I can work or read as I wait for my food. Amazing effort for a small “Country bar”.
But no, men working and showing off what they can really do is something they cannot let stand. They feel they have to something to ruin it.
I have to say, OldBill, you handled it better than I think I would have. Now you got me thinking of the times I have had rude comments while dining alone.
Frank V.
Before I found this place, I used to tell the people that brow beat me about not being in a relationship this simple phrase: “There are far worse things in life than being alone.”[/quote]
Well, I’d say that’s the most profound statement I’ve heard all day. And even though I know it to be a singular truth, sometimes I have to be reminded about the lessons learned here. The wealth of knowledge, the lessons to be learned here, are sometimes in such abundance that it is hard to retain it all subconsciously. I swear, we really need a book of collective thoughts and scenarios.
Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...
The vast majority of the loneliest men I ever knew where married.
QED.
Frank V.
Hopefully, I managed to nudge a young man towards MGTOW last night.
I do hope those three young men took their first step towards MGTOW that night. Because every man must walk his own path to MGTOW, we can’t preach, we can’t debate, we can’t stand on soap boxes, and we can’t bang tambourines on street corners. What we can do, however, is live our lives as an example. I hope I was some small example to those three lost men.
Live well, brothers.
Your story left me wondering if there was a way to nudge more men from blue pill subservience into red pill awareness without them having to endure so much s~~~ testing and tribulations.
So I thought perhaps some kind of “calling card” might be useful. I’ve been kicking around a few ideas and I was curious, if you had a card with the MGTOW logo and a pithy phrase on it, would you have passed it on to the beta?
Or do you think it’s best that he finds MGTOW the slow and hard way for himself?
Before I found this place, I used to tell the people that brow beat me about not being in a relationship this simple phrase: “There are far worse things in life than being alone.”
-Whackerguy2030
Well, I’d say that’s the most profound statement I’ve heard all day. And even though I know it to be a singular truth, sometimes I have to be reminded about the lessons learned here. The wealth of knowledge, the lessons to be learned here, are sometimes in such abundance that it is hard to retain it all subconsciously. I swear, we really need a book of collective thoughts and scenarios.
binary logic
I had a similar thought about a book of collective thoughts and scenarios. I’ve actually started sifting through the site in order to find the pearls of wisdom and ‘gems’ in order to make it easier on newer people. Still a work in progress.
There’s top gun forum, if you haven’t seen it, that does something similar with forum threads that are of particular interest.
My first post and I end up double posting and making a mess of quotes and everything. God I hate being a noob.
This topic is an instant classic and will be moved into the TOP GUN forum.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Your story left me wondering if there was a way to nudge more men from blue pill subservience into red pill awareness without them having to endure so much s~~~ testing and tribulations.
That’s a question often debated here, Wayne, and no one answer is possible because every man’s life and situation are different.
Or do you think it’s best that he finds MGTOW the slow and hard way for himself?
Some men do find their way to MGTOW the “slow and hard way” as you note. However others, like myself, were essentially MGTOWs before this latest use of the term developed. (The phrase men going their own way dates to the early 1800s.)
Substance addiction is an admittedly poor analogy to the Red Pill/Blue Pill situation, but I’ve yet to come across a better one. A junkie or drunk cannot be forced, led, or nudged into sobriety, they have to want to become sober instead. Similarly, a man has to want to see the world and live his life in Red Pill terms and cannot be forced, led, or nudged into the decision.
The best way to help your fellow men is to live your life as an example. Become a “living recruiting poster”. Employ your freedom and sovereignty towards good ends. Live a life that other men will covet.
Don’t preach or proselytize as nothing turns people off faster than a lecture. On the other hand, when asked don’t be shy with your opinions either.
When a friend complains about some fresh hell a wife is putting them through, say “That’s why I’m not married” and leave it at that. When a friend says how much they’d love to go to that night’s game but their girlfriend won’t let them, say “That’s why I don’t have a girlfriend” and leave it at that. When someone asks why you aren’t married, say “The benefits don’t outweigh the risks” and leave it at that.
Men who are truly interested, as opposed to those who simply want to argue, will find another more private and quiet time to ask further questions. It’s then you should speak more freely and pass along this site’s address.
Good luck on your journey, Wayne, and welcome to our brotherhood.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
Or do you think it’s best that he finds MGTOW the slow and hard way for himself?
– Wayne
Some men do find their way to MGTOW the “slow and hard way” as you note. However others, like myself, were essentially MGTOWs before this latest use of the term developed. (The phrase men going their own way dates to the early 1800s.)
Substance addiction is an admittedly poor analogy to the Red Pill/Blue Pill situation, but I’ve yet to come across a better one. A junkie or drunk cannot be forced, led, or nudged into sobriety, they have to want to become sober instead. Similarly, a man has to want to see the world and live his life in Red Pill terms and cannot be forced, led, or nudged into the decision.
The best way to help your fellow men is to live your life as an example. Become a “living recruiting poster”. Employ your freedom and sovereignty towards good ends. Live a life that other men will covet.
Don’t preach or proselytize as nothing turns people off faster than a lecture. On the other hand, when asked don’t be shy with your opinions either.
When a friend complains about some fresh hell a wife is putting them through, say “That’s why I’m not married” and leave it at that. When a friend says how much they’d love to go to that night’s game but their girlfriend won’t let them, say “That’s why I don’t have a girlfriend” and leave it at that. When someone asks why you aren’t married, say “The benefits don’t outweigh the risks” and leave it at that.
Men who are truly interested, as opposed to those who simply want to argue, will find another more private and quiet time to ask further questions. It’s then you should speak more freely and pass along this site’s address.
Good luck on your journey, Wayne, and welcome to our brotherhood.
Thanks for the welcome.
I do agree that conversion or sobriety requires a willingness to change from the person involved but sometimes a quiet word at the right moment can be helpful for that person to find a way out of the darkness.
I would never preach or try and convince someone that my way was best. I typically just say “Here’s how I do things… but that’s just me, you do whatever works for you.” and see how things work out. Maybe they’ll ignore my suggestion, maybe they’ll think about it when their way isn’t working and maybe they’ll listen and give my method a chance.
I take the “plant a seed of knowledge and see if it sprouts” mentality.
On another note, would you mind if I quoted you? I’m compiling a book of sorts of the best of MGTOW either for the purpose of a primer or simply as a more refined version of the Top Gun Forum. It’s still a work in progress but I’d like to add your ‘delightful meal’ anecdote.
On another note, would you mind if I quoted you?
Not in the slightest. You don’t even need to attribute any quotes to me if you don’t wish.
Everything I post here is free for my brothers to use as they see fit. They can fold, spindle, or mutilate whatever I write however they wish. As far as I’m concerned, everything I post here is in the public domain.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
Brilliant and witty comeback. Similar to your quote, I once had a wise old man tell me, “It is better to be lonely, than married & miserable.” I didn’t understand this statement so I asked for clarification. He told me when you’re alone, YOU decide what you want to do to occupy YOUR time and space. At the end of the day you are in complete control over all aspects of your life. When you are M&M what happens? Take out the garbage! Squash this bug! Lets paint random bulls~~~! I NEED TO SPEND MORE OF YOUR MONEY (Because I’ll pretend it is our money but it is really my money).
Ever since I’ve been going my own way, I do not have financial troubles, I’m rarely bored (I decide how to entertain myself), and I do not get angry. In fact I am waiting for something huge in the next couple weeks and my focus helped me to get this far. Again awesome story. This makes me want to continue on the path to greatness. Very inspiring.
If it costs you your peace of mind, then it is too expensive.
Why ruin a meal ? Envy, because all the best cooks in the world are men.
Well done.
Happy to see that I am not the only one who goes alone to the restaurant with a book ! Since my thirties, I have been doing this a few times a year when I was “alone” (do you feel the relief?).
How many time people tried to make me feel pathetic for this ! The looks as you said. Even though you look rich and smart, you are not with a girl …
When with a guy, you look gay…They never succeeded.
A good book is better 99.9% of the time than any pointless conversation I usually have with my “peers” or even relatives.
You do not even need a book.
Why not just enjoying the food or even THINKING FOR REAL (almost an obscenity nowadays) ?Even at work, I only eat once a week with another MGTOW.
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