A best mate getting married: what to do?

[SwampFootParticipant 62]

buy him a voice activated recorder as a wedding gift.

probably the best thing you can get a man who is about to get married. you cant make him use it, but when the time comes when he needs it, he will thank you.

[LionOnTheLooseParticipant 1315]

Thanks again for all the replies, guys.

I talked to him about how I’ve come to the conclusion that marriage is a bad deal for men, but I didn’t specifically refer to MGTOW or this website. I think I was pretty level-headed and balanced, too. But he picked up that I was red pilled, flipped his s~~~ and basically told me our friendship was over. I didn’t think his response would be quite that extreme: whatever happened to agreeing to disagree with friends?

Oh well. I tried, at least. I hope he enjoys his garden shed once in a while.

There aren't holes in your pockets. It's called marriage.

[KageParticipant 190]

Oh well. You tried…his blood isn’t on your hands. Stuff like this is why I’ve stopped telling other men. Because the ones who just…get it are RARE. The majority of men don’t understand until they get s~~~ on once…or multiple times…if ever. The problem is they ALL think “this time is different”. Smh…with all the stats out there I have a hard time trying to save men who don’t want to be saved in 2018.

[LionOnTheLooseParticipant 1315]

Kage wrote:

Oh well. You tried…his blood isn’t on your hands. Stuff like this is why I’ve stopped telling other men. Because the ones who just…get it are RARE. The majority of men don’t understand until they get s~~~ on once…or multiple times…if ever. The problem is they ALL think “this time is different”. Smh…with all the stats out there I have a hard time trying to save men who don’t want to be saved in 2018.

Thanks, man. Yeah, I agree. And I’m pretty much over the “I want to fix the world” mentality. Then again, he’s been one of my closest friends on and off since we were 11 and he helped me a lot when my own marriage went south, so I do feel I owe him the honesty.

Also, although I think MGTOW is more about figuring out your own route through life rather than mobilisation/mass action etc., I do wonder what would happen if more guys who don’t accept the prevailing blue pill dogma actually speak out. What happens if you invite people to your wedding and a bunch of guys said “f~~~ that s~~~”?

There aren't holes in your pockets. It's called marriage.

[NeroParticipant 1466]

@lion: That’s really too bad he fking kicked your friendship to the curb. Every man worth his salt should know better in today’s SJW environment. I have to call his since friendship into question. I disagree with many of my friends on various issues. NEVER has it come to the point of ending the relationship. That’s totally fkd up. I hope you find a better friend. They’re out there. I have many great friends. I’ve been very lucky in life in that regard.

[TheSpiceParticipant 2644]

LionOnTheLoose wrote:

But he picked up that I was red pilled, flipped his s~~~ and basically told me our friendship was over.

As painful as that is, watching him simp his ass through that marriage and get destroyed would be even worse.

Honestly, you don’t need friends that aren’t willing to tell you the f~~~ing truth. You told him truth. Obviously, he couldn’t handle it. He should respect that you’re trying to help him, not s~~~ on his parade.

Too many people read it as “jealousy” or “sour grapes” that it’s rarely ever worth it to say anything. You gave it a shot for a good friend. I respect that.

"I've been thinking about what it would be like if we got back together."
"You know it's too late for that."

[LionOnTheLooseParticipant 1315]

Thanks, guys, I appreciate it. You’re both right, Nero and TheSpice: I’m fortunate to have quite a few good friends so it’s no big disaster but it is a shame. The most disappointing thing is that so many people nowadays aren’t happy to agree to disagree: it’s this “tribal” mentality where people have to agree with you or they get the boot. It’s happened a lot in the UK with the Brexit debate, and there are stories of families falling out over it. Whatever happened to a good debate?

Anyway, I actually think it’s a sign he knows on some level that he’s signing his freedom away. I won’t say “I told you so” when seven years down the line he finds her with the pastor’s c~~~ in her mouth.

There aren't holes in your pockets. It's called marriage.

[ThelouderthebetterParticipant 178]

LionOnTheLoose wrote:

Whatever happened to a good debate?

#emotions

Good for you man! I respect what you are trying to do for your friend. All he was able to hear is “I dont support you”, and “I don’t like your future wife”. His personal ideology (liberal) is also a HUGE hurdle when attempting to wake him up. Just know that you planted a seed and he will remember the one guy that gave him sound advice when he is a better, wiser, single man.
I work for a small Ag Tech company and my boss, who I admire and respect, is about to enter his 3rd marriage and take on a woman with two teenage kids (he has none of his own). We spend a good amount of time together and I just cant bring myself to bring up the subject of MGTOW. Still looking for opportunities though.

"To be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you like everybody else - means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can fight; and never stop fighting." E.E. Cummings.

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