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SHTF Scenario.
Listen pal, I don’t want a SHTF scenario to happen, okay? I’m happy in my newfound MGTOW life.
For ‘New man’ read ‘eunuch’.
They would love to come up with a reason to break men up into divisions based on age. I’ve not seen a difference between posters of different ages. Some appear mature and are younger and some immature and are older.
Maturity doesn’t always correlate with age.
I think Millenials are looking for places to learn what their fathers were not allowed to teach them.
How men really think. Then their eyes open and they become aware of why things didn’t feel right.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
I actually read the article and scoffed a bit about the “new” masculinity, but then I looked at each of the possible outcomes. If you take a step back from your own ego about traditional masculinity, it makes sense.
The millenials the article describes are Western herbivores. The 7 things were all about them, and I don’t recall finding a woman to be one of them. Marriage and birth rate are tanking.
If PUA, tradcons, and feminists are all scared right now it could be because just like Japan; Western young men are taking a path of nonaggression and just focusing on themselves.
I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.
Why?
Because, that’s reality. The reality is, humans are emotional. Modern concepts of masculinity have shamed men into thinking that suppressing their emotions is how they prove that they’re “real men.” Look at men from a few hundred years ago. The renaissance would never have happened if men were like they are today back then.
All the best poets, philosophers, artists, etc. are men. Do you seriously think that Leonardo Da Vinci was concerned with being a “real man?” F~~~ no. If he hadn’t been in touch with his emotions, he never would have been able to create all the things he did.
The truth is, MEN are the emotional ones, NOT women. Women have shamed men for having emotions, because deep down they are ENVIOUS of us because they know they can never be as emotional as we are. Women’s emotions are superficial and fake. A man’s emotions are true to himself and real.
If you take a step back from your own ego about traditional masculinity, it makes sense.
Yup.
All the best poets, philosophers, artists, etc. are men. Do you seriously think that Leonardo Da Vinci was concerned with being a “real man?” F~~~ no. If he hadn’t been in touch with his emotions, he never would have been able to create all the things he did.
The truth is, MEN are the emotional ones, NOT women. Women have shamed men for having emotions, because deep down they are ENVIOUS of us because they know they can never be as emotional as we are. Women’s emotions are superficial and fake. A man’s emotions are true to himself and real.
Spot on, Ryu.
This has been a very interesting debate gents. I have really enjoyed reading it. Thank you. I can see both sides actually. Manhood never changes -true, we all have to bend with the times and evolve our world views to be as successful as possible in the environment we find ourselves -also true.
Humans are quite adaptive. Look at all the cucks who are stay at home fathers for a busy successful wife and change nappies and such. Look at all the women having careers not babies. Yes its screwed up but yes actually humans are just about coping. I think we are reaching the limits we can take but we have bent a very long way. Most other species with different gender roles just couldn’t bend that far. So I am prepared to accept that we must innovate. The past is never the future but some things remain timeless and archetypal too.
One thing I would say is that the more gender neutral millennial man may not purely be a result of environment, he may also be the result of female hormones in city water from the contraceptive pill and hormone mimicking or suppressing chemicals from plastic and cleaning fluids and such in the environment. These are uncharted waters.
A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own
I read it as “the new definition of masculinity is to do the things you want to do even if they’re not considered masculine.” So it’s not that yoga is a masculine thing now but being able to do it if you want to is masculine.
I read it as “the new definition of masculinity is to do the things you want to do even if they’re not considered masculine.”
Exactly.
Masculinity evolved as a survival tactic.
One of the key elements is adaption to new environments.
If you survive and flourish in a harsh environment because you have adapted to it, then you have shown a form of masculinity.
The only difference today is instead of dominating by strength men are developing adaptive camoflage. It is a new masculine adaption and quite misleading to the eye, easy to misunderstand.Being a man is incredible good luck. Do not waste it on the unlucky.
Masculinity evolved as a survival tactic.
One of the key elements is adaption to new environments.
If you survive and flourish in a harsh environment because you have adapted to it, then you have shown a form of masculinity.
The only difference today is instead of dominating by strength men are developing adaptive camoflage. It is a new masculine adaption and quite misleading to the eye, easy to misunderstand.Precisely.
LOL do we really have men on here defending yoga? Is this site becoming retarded too? Yoga has been pushed on the western world to hyper sexualize women. It, along with Starbucks are female cults.
One factor to Yoga becoming so popular in the US is ignorance. Yoga teachers and how-to books seldom mention that the discipline began as a sex cult — an omission that leaves many practitioners open to libidinal surprise.
Hatha yoga — the parent of the styles now practiced around the globe — began as a branch of Tantra. In medieval India, Tantra devotees sought to fuse the male and female aspects of the cosmos into a blissful state of consciousness.
The rites of Tantric cults, while often steeped in symbolism, could also include group and individual sex. One text advised devotees to revere the female sex organ and enjoy vigorous intercourse. Candidates for worship included actresses and prostitutes, as well as the sisters of practitioners.
Hatha originated as a way to speed the Tantric agenda. It used poses, deep breathing and stimulating acts — including intercourse — to hasten rapturous bliss. In time, Tantra and Hatha developed bad reputations. The main charge was that practitioners indulged in sexual debauchery under the pretext of spirituality.
Early in the 20th century, the founders of modern yoga worked hard to remove the Tantric stain. They devised a sanitized discipline that played down the old eroticism for a new emphasis on health and fitness.
F~~~ yoga, I am GMOW. Plenty of other healthy ways to stay fit without some tuna centered cult bulls~~~.
I agree that men need to be more sensitive and more in touch with their emotions
Why?
To avoid cognitive dissonance. Stay true to yourself, basically. Don’t live a lie.
This has been a very interesting debate gents. I have really enjoyed reading it. Thank you. I can see both sides actually. Manhood never changes -true, we all have to bend with the times and evolve our world views to be as successful as possible in the environment we find ourselves -also true.
Humans are quite adaptive. Look at all the cucks who are stay at home fathers for a busy successful wife and change nappies and such. Look at all the women having careers not babies. Yes its screwed up but yes actually humans are just about coping. I think we are reaching the limits we can take but we have bent a very long way. Most other species with different gender roles just couldn’t bend that far. So I am prepared to accept that we must innovate. The past is never the future but some things remain timeless and archetypal too.
One thing I would say is that the more gender neutral millennial man may not purely be a result of environment, he may also be the result of female hormones in city water from the contraceptive pill and hormone mimicking or suppressing chemicals from plastic and cleaning fluids and such in the environment. These are uncharted waters.
Well, right now men are researching artificial wombs and sex-robots. So, we’re evolving to replace the broken part of humanity – women.
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I agree that men need to be more sensitive and more in touch with their emotions
Why?
To avoid cognitive dissonance. Stay true to yourself, basically. Don’t live a lie.
Bodyslam.
That article reminded me a little of Lacy Green’s ‘feminism is good for men’ piece a few years ago…
According to one international study titled “The Decline of the Manly Man,” the percentage of men who are staying home to care for children is rising today while women are slowly surpassing men in academic performance and closing the income gap. The evolved man isn’t swayed by gender roles or what society deems “manly.”
Note the loaded phrasing (“The Decline of the Manly Man” “evolved man”) and emphases on men taking on vulnerable, dependent roles. The friends I’ve had who tried that ended up cheated on, divorced and poor.
Also, where are the ‘evolved women’ who can rise above their own instincts? The ones who will admit that universal Pre-K doesn’t improve outcomes, and that money spent buying a new phone every year isn’t growth in the same sense that the invention of penicillin was?
3. They Don’t Want To Compete With One Another.
^ I agree with this up to a point, but some work still has to be done. I don’t want to compete on ridiculous fashion statements, but guys who step up to the plate and improve quality and duration of life for other people deserve to be paid accordingly.
“Don’t try to distract yourself and run around all day. You need to spend time with yourself and take care of you,”
^ That’s a little bit like telling my dog not to chase squirrels. I keep moving because it feels good to me. For a while I actually tried slowing down and taking it easy because I thought it would make me age more slowly, but it did the opposite. Testosterone promotes healing, so some guys bodies might be ‘designed’ to run. Don’t fight your own fitness.
Millennial men are committed to knowing themselves on a deep and personal level—even if what they find is difficult to confront or conflicting. Rather than hide from or deny who you are, become curious about who you are and have the courage to represent yourself authentically.
^ I’ve tried this kind of navel-gazing. What I learned is that I can be happy in a lot of different situations, and sitting around trying to figure out which one is ‘best’ just killed time in a life that’s already too short.
4. They Value Authenticity. Millennial men have no need to pretend they’re someone they’re not, because they’re not ashamed of who they really are. You can cultivate authenticity in your life by ensuring your outer self is aligned with your inner self.
^ If this were true, then my generation (Millennials) would value free speech more strongly than past generations. Polls show the opposite. When I talk to guys my age, a lot of them say that they feel muzzled.
There is no reinventing masculinity.
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<strong class=”d4pbbc-bold”>4. They Value Authenticity. Millennial men have no need to pretend they’re someone they’re not, because they’re not ashamed of who they really are. You can cultivate authenticity in your life by ensuring your outer self is aligned with your inner self.
^ If this were true, then my generation (Millennials) would value free speech more strongly than past generations. Polls show the opposite. When I talk to guys my age, a lot of them say that they feel muzzled.
They feel muzzled because they are muzzled. Anytime you open your mouth in public, you might get shamed, even harassed and arrested for “disturbing the peace”. Thus the need for websites like this were we can express our God-given right to free speech. Even so-called Western countries are no better than East-Germany in this regard with hate-speech laws being extended to everything “problematic”.
So, we create our open air here, and punt the c~~~s because they have no business with us males. And because they can speak their mind freely, they know they’re not alone. And thus they can “Value Authenticity”. Everything about women is FAKE. Fake face, fake pussy, fake personality, fake fake fake!!
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The renaissance would never have happened if men were like they are today back then.
I beg to differ. The renaissance would have never happened if our true heritage of pagan teachings and practices weren’t adopted instead of being under the yoke of Judaic desert cult religions.
The greatest art, philosophy and science were pagan inspired and that’s a fact.
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There is no reinventing masculinity.
Reinvented.
HA! That douchebag probably doesn’t even know how to drive a manual transmission.
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