3 Important Lessons I Learned About Civilization From Living In A Hippie Commune

This is the quote we’re discussing.
“In regular society, you can work your ass off day in and day out, and you won’t get s~~~. In regular society the power isn’t given to the people who put in hard work – it’s handed down, and some little punk gets it, because his great, great, great, great grandfather worked to earn it in the past.”

what is it that allows an uninvolved person to profit from the work of others, which is clearly the nature of the authors concern?

That “dynasty trust” money he comments on is large for a specific reason I’ve mentioned several times.

*Hint: Fiat money*

Today’s billionaires would simply be millionaires with the right money.

And then they wouldn’t be utilizing the labor of others to gain profit?

What you don’t understand is profit IS a motivator to take risks, cater to customers to create a larger customer base, grow a business, provide for R&D, work hard, keep workers happy so they want to work with you and grow the business and have bonuses, and etc.

If your problem is profit… you REALLY don’t understand how business basically function. And I don’t just mean how they do their quarterly accounting.

“In regular society, you can work your ass off day in and day out, and you won’t get s~~~. In regular society the power isn’t given to the people who put in hard work – it’s handed down, and some little punk gets it, because his great, great, great, great grandfather worked to earn it in the past.”

CapitAlism refuted

The author’s message is women find powerful men desirable.

It has f~~~ all to do about capitalism, as an economic system, other systems are just as corrupt, look at China as a beacon of equality and social justice, no inequality there right? No corrupt wealthy powerful elites in China right?

I propose whether resources are earned and later inherited, or usurped and confiscated (socialism) doesn’t matter. Strength is amoral. “In regular society the power isn’t given to the people who put in hard work” because Power is never “given” to anyone, it is TAKEN.

The observation is that in a new (undeveloped) society, power is derived from man’s usefulness to provide necessities (man as a utility).

In a developed society, the same is true, but basic needs are being met by civilization, big brother government, whatever shape or form. Competition to supply simple menial goods and services drive value down. So power becomes a more complicated pursuit beyond merely supplying basic essentials. Hence “In regular society, you can work your ass off day in and day out, and you won’t get s~~~”. Work your ass off doing something high value and productive and you will earn far greater reward.

I always find the jealousy argument that “because his great, great, great, great grandfather worked to earn it in the past” somehow makes him unworthy, rather petty. It is not any ones fault if your ancestors were bums.

I didn’t get handed a silver spoon either, so it’s up to me to make my legacy, and if I leave it to my descendants, I’ll be f~~~ed if it’s my descendants fault that the people around me were stupid bums.

It’s not capitalism that is the problem, it is the corruption that has decayed the foundations of capitalism. Western civilization is more socialist than capitalist at the moment. We need to thin the heard because the socialist propaganda of the past 50 to 70 years has undermined western civilization to the extent of it becoming an over bloated socialist welfare state.

Leave the fruits of productive people alone and let the rest look after themselves, that will fix things up quick smart.

AFT wrote:

I always find the jealousy argument that “because his great, great, great, great grandfather worked to earn it in the past” somehow makes him unworthy, rather petty. It is not any ones fault if your ancestors were bums.

These people can never come up with a better alternative either. Should every privately owned business be confiscated by the government and liquidated when the original owner dies because its wrong for someone else to inherit the business? Its easy enough to bitch about inheritances but the alternative I’m assuming they’d like to see, since they obviously hate seeing someone decide via a will how their wealth is distributed when they die, is 10000000x worse.

AFT wrote:

I didn’t get handed a silver spoon either, so it’s up to me to make my legacy, and if I leave it to my descendants, I’ll be f~~~ed if it’s my descendants fault that the people around me were stupid bums.

Exactly man…I doubt I’ll ever inherit a fortune, but I do know plenty of people who work a few more years than they need to and live a little more frugally than they need to because they want to pass a little something along to their kids to make sure their kids have a decent life. Why should they be punished for having hard working, responsible, caring parents?

AFT wrote:

It’s not capitalism that is the problem, it is the corruption that has decayed the foundations of capitalism. Western civilization is more socialist than capitalist at the moment. We need to thin the heard because the socialist propaganda of the past 50 to 70 years has undermined western civilization to the extent of it becoming an over bloated socialist welfare state.

Leave the fruits of productive people alone and let the rest look after themselves, that will fix things up quick smart.

Nailed it again. I don’t really feel like looking for it at the moment, but I saw an article a few weeks ago that had an interesting graph…how many days per year you have to work just to pay your taxes. It was currently over 120. If you go back to the pre-WWII days I think it was around 20-30. Just imagine how awful life would be if a lot of the socialist bulls~~~ in our government was eliminated and we all had an extra 3 months gross in our pockets every year.

Thanks for finally admitting a core fact of capitalism.

And you’re right with that “worship the job creator and eat his as whole all day” mindset, things are unlikely to to change for you.

I don’t have much time to look at the thread today. I just want to quickly respond to this.

Survivor, you’ve never been employed right? In fact, I think you outed yourself as a NEET just now with that response.

So let’s try to imagine how you would handle this once you start working for yourself or under others.

Lets say you decide to never work for someone and start making craft beer. After several of your products are consumed by friends, they love it, and you find you are pretty good at it. A couple of years have passed and you’ve gotten quite a name for your product. However you have a problem, you can’t do all the jobs required to meet the demand for your customer base that has grown beyond simply a one man operation.

Namely, you cant produce the volume of beer now coming into demand, do shipment to each of your for growing customers, take the money, and other tasks that are now required of your business without pulling you from making new craft beer.

This is why people do things for others. They WANT to be employed by you, just be fair with their pay. Normally you aren’t given resume’s by people like yourself.

People actually do want to help run your beer to stores, help craft more beer, help load the beer, help manage the customer base, and other jobs that you would need to do BY YOURSELF and who actually want you to do good and your profit margin to grow if they can get more pay, a job advancement in your growing business, a bottle of your craft beer now and then on special occasions, and just satisfy their own basic day to day expenses and then some.

NEET’s shouldn’t worry about economics other than getting a job first.