2 Years After Divorce – ex trying to take children

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  • #856528
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    Thelouderthebetter
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    So it’s been 2 years since my ex ran off, served me papers, took our 3 boys and moved in with her lesbian lover. I was able to keep the family home and achieve 50/50 joint custody. I live in South Dakota so I still have to pay child support, but it’s a bargain compared to what I had to pay to “keep a wife”. We have had (what I thought was) a cordial co-parent situation until 2 weeks ago I get a random call from CPS saying they needed to talk to me about “bruises” on my 3 year old son. My boys are 3, 6, and 8(today!). Naturally I’m thinking something bad has happened to my son so I’m all ears. Slowly I begin to realize that I’m being investigated because my children receive discipline in the form of open hand spankings (while fully clothed) on rare occasions when they are in my care. I have never left bruises or caused ANY injuries on my children.

    I get to the point of the conversation where I inform the CPS worker that I have signed 3 “incident reports” at daycare over the last 10 days and she quickly changes her tune and tells me she’s calling the police detective assigned to this case and will call me back soon. The next call I receive is from the police detective. Apparently my 3 yr old son was taken (by my ex) to a facility called “Child’s Voice” and pictures were taken of his little left buttock on which a 4 inch lateral bruise could be seen. Since my son was in my care over the weekend, and his older brothers had informed mom that he had received a spanking from me, she swiftly sought to make hay out of the deal and accuse me of child abuse.

    Now everything comes full circle as to what I’m up against and what’s actually happened here. The detective then offers me some solace by letting me know that he and the states attorney have viewed these photos and dismissed them. He said there was no question this doesn’t meet the requirements for any charges to be brought against me. The detective also called the daycare and found that there had actually been 8 incident reports on my 3 yr old son between Aug 1st and Aug 29th for either causing or being on the receiving end of physical altercations. Just when I start to feel a little better about the whole thing, the detective clues me in to what he knows is going to hit me next. He informs me that my ex-had just taken out 3 protection orders to keep me away from my kids for 30 days. I didn’t even know this could happen without some sort of due process. I was totally blown away by the constraints of these orders; no phone calls or contact of any kind.

    THIS IS STATE SPONSORED PARENTAL ALIENATION
    I got a lawyer the very next day and began gathering all evidence to refute my ex’s erroneous claims. I found a treasure trove on her Facebook page just by searching my name. She used to extol my virtue as a father and husband right up to the point she fell in love with her girlfriend and decided I had to be made out to be the enemy. I was very surprised to find this stuff wasn’t deleted. The other thing I did the next day was fill out intake paperwork at my local Family Visitation Center so I could see my children during this process. Talk about a humbling process. I now get to see my boys for one hour a week. Today is actually my oldest sons 8th birthday and I thank God I’ll get to at least watch him open gifts and tell him I love him. Last week was my first hour long “session” and the time absolutely flew by.

    My court date is the 25th of this month and I hope something constructive comes from it. I don’t have any expectations with regards to the behavior of my ex but I hope something causes her to pause before pulling this again in the future. The oldest boys have gizmo gadget watch/phones that their mother has turned off so my side of the family has had basically zero contact with them. I still can’t believe this one size fits all approach to restraining orders, especially when it comes to removing parent from their children. I know it could be worse and am glad I’m not still married to this woman because I would then be restrained from my own home.

    Would appreciate any tips, knowledge, advice on this situation as it’s all new territory for me. I am not speaking with CPS before this initial court date and am keeping records and recording conversations as I go. No criminal record, take no meds……….

    -Thanks

    "To be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you like everybody else - means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can fight; and never stop fighting." E.E. Cummings.

    #856537
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    Edify
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    In true MGTOW sense, If I were you, I’d just walk away, not fight for any custody or visitation.
    But my advise is not what fathers Want to hear.

    Father’s go back to fighting (giving a chance to the system to get milked) as expected and become very predictable.
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    #856539
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    Monk
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    You seem to be doing everything right. Just keep your cool.

    #856540
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    Thelouderthebetter
    Thelouderthebetter
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    Yeah, there is no chance I’ll be walking away from my boys. They are too precious to me and I would never be able to live with myself.

    "To be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you like everybody else - means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can fight; and never stop fighting." E.E. Cummings.

    #856549
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    TaxGuy
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    I guess the first thing I’d say is to stop swatting them on the butt. It’s probably not helping much from a discipline standpoint and at this point isn’t worth it. Other than that it’s hard to say without knowing more about your ex. Maybe just ask her to meet and find out what’s really going on. Ask the police if you can charge her with filing a false report? Ask the lawyer if you should pursue that angle? I’m sure your lawyer would know if it looks better if you fight the report.

    Good luck brother. I know I’d fight too, but every opponent is different.

    Order the good wine

    #856550
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    743 roadmaster
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    Wish I had good advise, but can only offer moral support. I hope you are able to retain your boys.

    If possible at the end of the 30 days do it back to her.

    mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

    #856563
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    Aposematic
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    I have been alienated from my children systematically over 13 years. It just keeps getting worse- unless you stop pulling. My Son turns 21 tomorrow.
    He is unemployed living in Mommy’s stolen mansion. Living on the Dole (which will need to be repaid….)
    Well, I have good news- a letter in from my local member of Parliament investigating financial fraud of thE gOVT and others by the XYF.
    I am also having her charged with professional misconduct (sex is not part of a podiatry service…)
    Hate to break this, but if Mummy does not want you to parent HER BOYS (for extra money donchaknow) it aint happenin.
    Go ahead and prove me wrong, just let me know what the financial and emotional tally will be as I am curious as
    to how much you will burn through.

    Afinogyny.. from the Greek Afino {to abandon/ to set down/ to leave /to allow/ to let } + Gyny {Women} MGHOW’s philosophy to not engage women without “hating them”. Narcorca =Narcissistic Orca typically spouting to a bathroom mirror taking an arms length selfie ; Wallinate describes post wall females whose SMV is terminally negligible New Years resolution "To not make women happy" . Instadestitue: yet another Neologism for Men that cohabit with women that decide to pull the handle of intervention orders.

    #856571
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    Thelouderthebetter
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    I guess the first thing I’d say is to stop swatting them on the butt. It’s probably not helping much from a discipline standpoint and at this point isn’t worth it. Other than that it’s hard to say without knowing more about your ex. Maybe just ask her to meet and find out what’s really going on. Ask the police if you can charge her with filing a false report? Ask the lawyer if you should pursue that angle? I’m sure your lawyer would know if it looks better if you fight the report.
    Good luck brother. I know I’d fight too, but every opponent is different.

    My lawyer and I will file an affidavit stating that butt swatting is no longer on the table. It’s absolutely not worth it.
    Thanks brother.

    "To be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you like everybody else - means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can fight; and never stop fighting." E.E. Cummings.

    #856572
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    Thelouderthebetter
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    Wish I had good advise, but can only offer moral support. I hope you are able to retain your boys.
    If possible at the end of the 30 days do it back to her.

    Much appreciated man.

    "To be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you like everybody else - means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can fight; and never stop fighting." E.E. Cummings.

    #856574
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    Thelouderthebetter
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    Hate to break this, but if Mummy does not want you to parent HER BOYS (for extra money donchaknow) it aint happenin.Go ahead and prove me wrong, just let me know what the financial and emotional tally will be as I am curious asto how much you will burn through.

    Hate to hear that your ex has crippled your sons development by alienating you. That’s a type of abuse that is rarely acknowledged or discussed.
    It’s scary how out of phase with reality our system is when it comes to children and family.

    "To be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you like everybody else - means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can fight; and never stop fighting." E.E. Cummings.

    #856579
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    Aposematic
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    My son has an IQ of 130 (tested by educational psychologist at 7 years old). He dropped out of school at year 10 level and has done a child care course.
    Completely f~~~ed him for LIFE – but that is her responsibility.
    My agenda is to get him out into the real world- the Tax office selling up the mansion/ 2 yrs+ Jail for XYF should set things straighter.
    BTW he tried to kill me by setting my bed on fire with molotov c~~~taols one memorable night- under grannies influence- never forget the c~~~
    that is most likely backing up carpet muncher…

    Afinogyny.. from the Greek Afino {to abandon/ to set down/ to leave /to allow/ to let } + Gyny {Women} MGHOW’s philosophy to not engage women without “hating them”. Narcorca =Narcissistic Orca typically spouting to a bathroom mirror taking an arms length selfie ; Wallinate describes post wall females whose SMV is terminally negligible New Years resolution "To not make women happy" . Instadestitue: yet another Neologism for Men that cohabit with women that decide to pull the handle of intervention orders.

    #856598
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    SH3LLZ
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    Keep your cool. Be a good father. Children don’t stay children forever. Eventually they figure things out. Do you best and keep up with you CS payments. It’s all ends faster than you think.

    #ICETHEMOUT
    #MANOUT
    #HIDEYOURWEALTH

    #ICETHEMOUT!!! #MANOUT!!! #HIDEYOURWEALTH #VAGINAISWORTHLESS

    #856610
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    Swimcat
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    At what age can a child choose what parent they to live with in your state? My golf partner and fellow MGTOW, got custody of his son in court at age 14. The boy went to bat for him. That’s what you have to be working for. Get your boys to side with you and make the ex bitch Lesbo pay you when they get to their teen years.

    #856668
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    Anonymous
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    The most important aspect of the process is the acceptance of the outcome.

    She owns your DNA and how she got it is irrelevant, even if she broke into your home and scraped it out of a sock, even if you were an under age rape victim.
    Never beat yourself up about what you could have done or should have done or shouldn’t have done.
    Do what you feel you have to do in the meantime but make no mistake that she’s done her legal homework and she’s now utilizing the entire system against you. It’s highly likely she got the advice directly from a solicitor.
    Remember, it’s not you against her. It’s you against the gender biassed justice system and all the resources of the state.
    The entire system relies on the premise that men love their children and will do anything to keep and protect them. Every member of the system you’re dealing with makes a living on that fact.

    Always remember the best defense is attack, and the best attack is surprise. Get creative, think outside the square.

    #856715
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    Duke Togo
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    Have you thought of disappearing with your boys and starting again. Why play fair when your ex-wife and the gynocentric system are not playing fair against you?

    In the meantime, keep cool and keep a record of everything.

    I wish the best for you and your boys, and nothing for your ex-wife but the bad consequences of her decisions.

    #856730
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    Atton
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    Never give up this fight and never back down.

    A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

    #857013
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    NoMore
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    Fight for your kids. If you lose, you can die knowing you tried. My ex is doing her damndest to alienate me from my son. Tonight, I told him I loved him and in his 3 y/o voice, he said ‘I love you too daddy.’ I was speechless.

    I have had rabid thoughts of just giving up. It’ll just be easier to let go. But, I love my son and don’t want him to relive/accept the cycle his mother went through.

    A co-worker recently told me, "If you want to see who someone really is, divorce them." I have found out how true this is. When your wife drops the façade of being the caring partner, you will witness all of the greed, hate, and spite that she has masked. It is truly breathtaking!

    #857052
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    Anonymous
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    say goodbye.
    from your XWife´s and the State´s children.
    What are you even doing there.
    they are not yours.
    they never were.
    are you dumb or something – ?
    You said it yourself – the state controls the interaction.
    You have no place there.
    Let it go.
    And when she says peep, you go to jail.

    And she raises more women that are like that – give it 20 years and your oldest daughter will divorce rape her first husbank.
    You messed up when you got your wife preggo, so thanks for the f~~~ed up kids she now gets to raise feminism 5,0 in the making.
    Thank you very much.

    Walk away jeysus Krist… walk the f~~~ away.

    #857064
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    Monk
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    Fight for sons, but not for daughters.

    AWALT. Thinking that you can make them different to their mother is delusion.

    #857779
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    Thelouderthebetter
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    At what age can a child choose what parent they to live with in your state?

    I really am not sure and haven’t been too concerned about it since my oldest of three boys is only 8.

    "To be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you like everybody else - means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can fight; and never stop fighting." E.E. Cummings.

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