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  • Samsquanch
    Samsquanch
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    Many more important things in life other than politics. My dad and brother are always talking about it, especially the debate last night. I’ll get married before I waste my time listening to scumbag Hillary and scumbag Trump argue over s~~~ they can’t change.

    Thisistheguy123
    thisistheguy123
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    In my family we agree to disagree and we also recognize a few truths about the matter. Everyone is different and so are their ideas about how the world should be. Hillay Clinton and Donald Trump are two people with different ideas in the end. The voters and supporters are no different two groups with conflicting ideas. Just as passionately as you might hold an idea, others hold different ideals equally as passionately.
    Your brother would do well to see that reality.

    I’ve tried, endlessly…I’m giving up I think…When he asks “Who do you like better?” I just reply “They’re both awful, one is silly the other is corrupt”
    But he kept trying to bait me into an argument.

    From now on, I won’t allow it, and probably won’t even respond.
    I’ll keep interactions with him political free and probably alcohol induced fun

    I do wish he could accept people for having differentiating opinions, as he forces people to do with him

    Sorry if I’m writing poorly today, I’ve been sick all week and it’s rough keeping my mind clear.

    Atton
    Atton
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    In my family we agree to disagree and we also recognize a few truths about the matter. Everyone is different and so are their ideas about how the world should be. Hillay Clinton and Donald Trump are two people with different ideas in the end. The voters and supporters are no different two groups with conflicting ideas. Just as passionately as you might hold an idea, others hold different ideals equally as passionately.
    Your brother would do well to see that reality.

    A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

    Lurch
    Lurch
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    Vladimir Putin, himself has declared:

    “If it’s Hillary Clinton, its war!”

    What other reason do you need to NOT vote for that feminazi bitch!!

    Last night in the debate, shes harpy howling about “The Russians hacked this”, “The Russians hacked that”, “Trump is the puppet of Putin”.

    Yea Hillary, you go girl!! You just keep poking that angry grizzly bear that has MORE nuclear warheads than the US and is fed up enough with the lies of the current corrupt administration, to use them.

    Just like all the f~~~ing AWALTS, she’s running off emotion rather than logic. Except this time, she has the power to turn this great nation into one bloody giant nuclear impact crater!!!

    Vote for Hillary and expect this to be on your TV screen’s soon…

    Blue-Pill Virgin: Women hate me! That's what it is.
    MGTOW Man: Hate them back; it works for me.

    #331669

    Trump’s rhetoric was sound he stood confident in his convictions and called out a liar. When she hit like a girl he let it slide and never appeared to be on the defensive. The only problem is that women and liberals (indoctrinated into fem-mindset FEELZ over REELZ) are everywhere voting in droves.

    And here I thought MGTOW liked to point out how women do not like each other. Since Hillary appears unwell, but physically and mentally, along with her scandals. I believe such dislike is in play for the election.

    #331661
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    Trump’s rhetoric was sound he stood confident in his convictions and called out a liar. When she hit like a girl he let it slide and never appeared to be on the defensive. The only problem is that women and liberals (indoctrinated into fem-mindset FEELZ over REELZ) are everywhere voting in droves. The 19th amendment was the beginning of the end of rational governance.

    Maraudrz1
    Maraudrz1
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    This is a little off topic but one thing I definitely agree with Trump on is vouchers for schooling. The money needs to follow the child. If that happens then the school unions would be weakened considerably. Parents want to send their children to good schools. I watched a video of a school in, I think, NYC that is supposed to be a really good school. There were about 100 applicants per each student position. I seen mostly black mothers and fathers with their children trying to get their children into this school. Of course 99 per student position walked out of there in tears because they wanted to get their children out of the public school system. Sad. This also shows that black people want to succeed like the rest of us.

    Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.

    Thisistheguy123
    thisistheguy123
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    I went from an independent at 18 (2000) that leans to the right more to being a hardcore conservative at 25 (2007). I didn’t know the differences between parties when I voted either way, but FOX News educated me on what a conservative is, and Obama in 2008 scared me away from liberalism.

    I don’t care what people I don’t know say about me as a conservative. It’s not up to a liberal with intolerance for different views to decide what I should think, feel, and believe. That’s my choice. They say they want to stop hate, but they themselves are even bigger haters than they think conservatives are.

    You seen how Hillary and Bernie supporters were like this election cycle; the burned down buildings with threatening messages sprayed on the wall, assaulted Trump supporters, violently canceled a Trump rally in Chicago, waved Mexican flags around, started anarchy in the streets. And these are the people who claim they’re all about progress? Bulls~~~; liberals are very hateful and have no tolerance. I have no use for them.

    I’m going to quote Ursus from Beneath The Planet Of The Apes (1970): “A good liberal, is a dead liberal!”

    That quote made me laugh

    And yes, the Clinton campaign is full of corruption…I’m surprised her voters cannot see what’s clear as day, especially since that latest drop on youtube showing her party saying everything they did to ruin Trump’s rallies.

    #331638

    When the email thing came out and Hillary pivoted to them being stolen by Russia, his response should have been:

    Actually, that is not what happened.

    The moderator mentioned the Wikileaks, specifically about Hillary’s Goldman Sachs speeches with her staying she did not want any borders. Hillary immediately put on her tin foil hat and went full retard conspiracy theories against Russia.

    When Trump spoke, he responded, “Great pivot away from borders” which got some giggles from the crowd.

    Trump did not lay into the Hillary e-mail mess until a little later with the foreign policy discussion. Which Trump pointed out that Hillary had the chance to change the law as a Senator. She did not. Hillary had the chance to do things as Secretary of State. She did not. Trump pointed out all Hillary did was talk and talk for the last 30 years.

    He does not make these cases goodly. He makes them badly. And it’s going to cost him badly.

    Trump made a wonder case on policies. One solid comment after another. I know. I watched and listened to the debate. While Hillary lied, lied, and lied. And Hillary lied badly.

    The worst lies Hillary told was the Clinton Foundation. Trump’s responses on where Hillary gets some of her money from the Clinton Foundation, such as arab governments that murder homosexuals and treat women badly were spot on.

    The moderator was a bias, and the moderator tried to trip Trump up at the end by demanding he accept the results of the election. After he pointed out how the election is being rigged in detail. And Hillary was not asked this question.

    Trump’s reply, “I will leave you in suspense.” Was spot on. While Hillary replied to that comment, “That horrify.” Shows so much of what is wrong with her character.

    Hillary also did not do herself any favors with her joker smile and that white pantsuits. Also, while Trump remained calm, Hillary lost her cool a few times. She became upset and flustered, bordering on angry.

    This morning, the propaganda arm of the Hillary campaign, the media is trying to spin the not accepting possible voter fraud results. But, given what he said earlier about election rigging in detail, it will not play. And by the end of the day, the media will try to down play the debate.

    The media were hoping that Trump would be rougher, so they could accuse him of being a bully. But, he remained calm and he got his message across.

    Example two: NAFTA and him moving jobs overseas. My response:

    Let’s say NIKE came out with a new shoe that would cut a second off of your 100 yard dash time. Do you know what an advantage that would be for a runner? NONE, because EVERYONE would wear them. It would be great for NIKE but it doesn’t create an advantage for the runner. NAFTA is the same thing. You created a way to take cost out of the businesses expenses, by buying and producing overseas. If you keep making things in the US, you are a second behind. There’s no way to win. So the fact that I moved my manufacturing overseas is because you made the law in such a way that it is the only way to be competitive.

    You made the law and business reacted. And then you blame me because you weren’t smart enough to know what the law was actually going to do. This is why I say that I understand trade deals better than she does. Because I run a business that has to react to her decisions that are bad for the American worker.

    Trump was not speaking to corporate executives, whom lobbied government to pass laws and treaties to allow them to take tens of millions of jobs from the American people.

    When the American people demand money be taken from companies and the wealthy, the companies scream “communism”. But, when companies and the wealthy, take jobs, wealth, property, futures, lives, they say “business”.

    Now you understand why so many people support Trump and his policies.

    ResidentEvil7
    ResidentEvil7
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    I went from an independent at 18 (2000) that leans to the right more to being a hardcore conservative at 25 (2007). I didn’t know the differences between parties when I voted either way, but FOX News educated me on what a conservative is, and Obama in 2008 scared me away from liberalism.

    I don’t care what people I don’t know say about me as a conservative. It’s not up to a liberal with intolerance for different views to decide what I should think, feel, and believe. That’s my choice. They say they want to stop hate, but they themselves are even bigger haters than they think conservatives are.

    You seen how Hillary and Bernie supporters were like this election cycle; the burned down buildings with threatening messages sprayed on the wall, assaulted Trump supporters, violently canceled a Trump rally in Chicago, waved Mexican flags around, started anarchy in the streets. And these are the people who claim they’re all about progress? Bulls~~~; liberals are very hateful and have no tolerance. I have no use for them.

    I’m going to quote Ursus from Beneath The Planet Of The Apes (1970): “A good liberal, is a dead liberal!”

    https://themanszone.webs.com/

    #331627
    TaxGuy
    TaxGuy
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    Here’s my problem with Trump. When the email thing came out and Hillary pivoted to them being stolen by Russia, his response should have been:

    1. Of course I condemn other countries stealing the emails, no matter which country it was (he did say this).
    2. They stole the emails from the Democratic party. Which PROVES that you mishandle sensitive information, otherwise they couldn’t have got the emails. Maybe if you didn’t have all this stuff on some makeshift server in your basement they wouldn’t have got them, which PROVES that you don’t know what you’re doing.
    3. Notice how she didn’t deny anything that is said in the emails? Because it’s all TRUE. One of her minions offered more FBI jobs overseas in exchange for changing the status of a few of the emails to classified so they wouldn’t be read by the public. That’s ILLEGAL. And she isn’t denying it, she just wants to pivot to where they came from. Because she can’t defend the truth that is in the emails.

    The fact that he can’t make a coherent argument and stay on point is what will ultimately cost him this election. This is just one example, but I find myself watching him thinking I could do better in a debate with Hillary than he does.

    Example two: NAFTA and him moving jobs overseas. My response:

    Let’s say NIKE came out with a new shoe that would cut a second off of your 100 yard dash time. Do you know what an advantage that would be for a runner? NONE, because EVERYONE would wear them. It would be great for NIKE but it doesn’t create an advantage for the runner. NAFTA is the same thing. You created a way to take cost out of the businesses expenses, by buying and producing overseas. If you keep making things in the US, you are a second behind. There’s no way to win. So the fact that I moved my manufacturing overseas is because you made the law in such a way that it is the only way to be competitive.

    You made the law and business reacted. And then you blame me because you weren’t smart enough to know what the law was actually going to do. This is why I say that I understand trade deals better than she does. Because I run a business that has to react to her decisions that are bad for the American worker.

    He does not make these cases goodly. He makes them badly. And it’s going to cost him badly.

    Order the good wine

    #331624

    In reply to: I Just Voted

    ResidentEvil7
    ResidentEvil7
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    I voted for Trump last week along with Republican Senator Mark Kirk, who I voted for just for the sake of the party in the Senate, not for his sake, because he’s anti-Trump. I had to vote early, because I have to work at a poll on election day, and it’s not the same poll as where I live. Hey, I’m going to make $200 on Election Day just for working the polls.

    https://themanszone.webs.com/

    Thisistheguy123
    thisistheguy123
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    “If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You Have No Brain”

    This quote keeps ringing in my head.

    Me, a conservative at 30.
    My brother, a liberal at 37
    He is a gay man living in the city who I love.

    HOWEVER, our political views have always been on the opposite sides.
    He, being a liberal man accepts all the new norms;
    Transsexuals, all sex orientations, people living as they feel, etc, etc.

    Now, during the debate last night he started texting me saying how s~~~ty Trump is blah blah blah
    Me, knowing I don’t want to get into a fight, I don’t take the bait

    Then these words get sent “I wish that man would die”
    Now, I’ve known this for a while (when it comes to liberals), that they will accept ANYTHING from anybody…Except for accepting conservatives.

    How do you guys manage to get through all this?
    How can a man who accepts all these things not accept a man like Trump? or not accept a conservative brother/father/etc?

    Usually I let these things slide off me as I find it’s not worth my time. However after reading his texts those words struck a nerve, I did not react but it has been in my mind ever since.

    Do you men have loved ones, significant people in your lives that you completely disagree with politically?
    Do you have a way of handling this?
    I feel like it’s just a matter of time between now and the vote in November where things between he and I will constantly get worse.

    He had the b~~~~ to tell me “Just don’t ever tell me you’re a Trump supporter”
    Me, the man who has accepted him for being gay, supported him throughout all his troubles, partied with him, and remained his friend no matter what has happened

    …How can someone like that dare tell me what to think/say/act like?

    I’m caught between a rock and a hard place here.
    I love my brother, but I’m very vocal with my ideas/thoughts.

    Any insights would be greatly appreciated.

    #331448
    Jim01
    Jim01
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    I only saw the “highlights” on bbc news that predictably made Trump look like a loser and Hilary like an angel

    I nearly threw up when Hilary said how she always works towards helping families and children and that is a typical touchy, feely soundbite to appeal to people who don’t do facts

    also I though Trump was smart to say he wouldn’t say if he would accept an election defeat. We all know that the voting is rigged so if he says he does then in the future he has no comeback if/when it is proven. A few bad headlines about that subject aren’t worth worrying about because the MSM aren’t on his side anyway

    #331441

    In reply to: I Just Voted

    Maraudrz1
    Maraudrz1
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    While it is true that Trump and the Clintons go way back he explained it. He said that was part of doing business. He contributed to both major parties so that it didn’t matter who won he could still get favorable treatment. I firmly believe that he is an outsider otherwise and would vote for him anyway, especially after he said that he would see about having Hillary re-investigated and prosecuted.

    I received my mail-in ballot and was astounded that there were NO Republicans on the ballot for California Senator to Washington, DC.

    Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.

    #331404
    Big Boss
    Big Boss
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    Both looked tired, serious and upset. Like maybe they were exchanging words prior to the debate.

    Both did fine, but damn that woman was using every “think of the children” phrase in the book. It actually got as bad as “Fact check” in the second debate. Like seriously get over it already, we get you are trying to use subliminal messaging. Misdirected on the Clinton Foundation as well was pretty bad.

    Trump also let the dude give way more time to her over him. He kept f~~~ing interrupting his allotted time. He also didn’t pounce.

    I’d say no clear winner.

    #331399
    Big Boss
    Big Boss
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    Don’t know why your saying this crap. After the first debate not everyone on here was claiming a Trump victory and I thought a lot of guys on here gave some good criticism of his performance. I didn’t watch and wasn’t around to post after the second, but I think there are some pretty smart dudes on this forum that can see reality and not just tow a party line.

    It’s how women operate.

    #331380

    We were expecting Trump to be a political brawler looking for a quick victory. Instead, Trump was a solid political boxer. He kept going. He remained calm and stayed on policies, making his case. While Hillary lied, lied, lied. And her lies showed, as she visibly wore down as the debate progressed.

    Meanwhile, Trump just let Hillary have enough rope to politically hang herself with. Hillary became boring.

    I think Hillary tanked her campaign on three points in this debate. When Wikileaks was first mentioned in this debate, she went full on tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist against Russia, and she did not let up.

    Hillary attacking Russia over Wikileaks makes her appear she wants to start War World III over her bruised ego. That is a very bad political move to make.

    She could not create an adequate defense to the Wikileaks concerning her speeches and how she does not want borders between nations.

    And instead of avoiding the Clinton Foundation, she defended the Clinton Foundation with lies to outlandish no one believes them, and Trump called her on the lies. Trump also pivoted to Haiti with the Clinton Foundation.

    And Trump pointed out the hypocrisy of the Clinton Foundation accepting money for Saudi Arabia and others islamic nations, given how such islamic nations treat women and homosexuals so badly.

    Trump showed how Hillary was not friend to women, nor homosexuals.

    Trump even asked Hillary to return that money.

    Trump was good on a number of policy points. How he approached pro-life, gun ownership rights, economy, the border wall were good. While he continued to verbally attack Hillary in ways that made her weak.

    Trump did not want a knock out tonight. Trump wanted to drag the debate out to show how weak Hillary was. And Trump accomplish this task.

    In this debate, Hillary hoping to win this debate battle to win the war. Trump went into the debate battle as a stepping stone to win the war.

    Remember, Hillary is in ill health. She is not attending rallies, nor speaking functions. Outside of rigging the election. She needed this debate to be a solid victory.

    On the other hand, Trump is doing two rallies a day. Trump can take this debate victory and parley the victory into a great strategy to make sure his election victory is a solid victory.

    #331378
    K
    Hitman
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    Hey, Trump did a better job than I could have. .
    May not be saying much but I think he was pretty damn good. .
    I wish he tore into bigger flaws with the Clintons. .

    #331369
    PistolPete
    PistolPete
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    Pat Buchanan: “all you have to do to win the debate is meet expectations” and the bar was pretty low for the first two debates. Yes Trump missed some soft b~~~~ to be sure—I’ve been waiting patiently for him to say: “name me one country that taxed itself to prosperity?” Oh well.

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