"You're Nice, But I'm Just Not Into Men"

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

I know that women will take whatever worships them, man or woman (or themselves if neither), but has anyone else noticed a common trend of women at the very least being attracted to one another in the romantic sense?  For example, it’s either “I like men and women”, “I like women”, or “I like neither.”  Is this a big lie to play “hard to get” because they are trying to be what they like in men?

(The italicized words are from a post I made on another board, but I felt like this is an interesting thing to think about.)

2006:  Dated a girl who broke up with me, saying she was a lesbian hoping I could make her straight.  Though I’m aware that she was pursuing women, she ended up getting pregnant 7 months or so later and is now with a guy again.  I hope for his sake she’s not trying to trap him like she was trying to do to me.

2011 – 2012:  Dated a girl who ended up sleeping with a (now-former) friend of mine within the first three months of dating her.  She tried to tell me he assaulted her, forcing her to perform oral sex on him, and I did sucker into her pouty lip, victimized voice, and obnoxiously hypnotic curves at the time…despite there being evidence against this happening.  The next year, she left me for a butchy lesbian girl, at first telling me “I’m straight and friends with everyone!”  I actually put full trust in her sexuality, and trusted her words when she said “nothing is happening between that woman and I, nothing at all.”  It later evolved into her breaking up with me, and her telling me “I like her, but nothing has happened with her and I.”  During that time, we still lived together (we moved in with each other early 2012, this happened in the summer of the same year), and she kept sending mixed messages of “I’m still confused on who I want.”  Little did I know this was just a ploy to keep her living with me because she had nowhere else to go.  When the “other woman” found out I was trying to fight for my relationship, she came with my ex-lady and threatened to beat me in my own apartment if I tried anything, while playing the “tough guy” role and causing my ex-lady to fall for her more as she treated her in an abusive manner.  It was quite an emotional rollercoaster for me, which I am glad to be out of.

2012 – 2013:  Tried one more relationship that ended up being physically and emotionally abusive to me.  “I’m not talking to anyone, but I don’t want you talking to any other women” is the best way to explain it.  Turns out, she was talking to other men behind my back for about 6 months, with at least 4 men that I’m aware of.  During a brief breakup, she was even talking to a woman to consider dating her as well.  Part of me suspects that may happen.

2014:  a)  Met one girl who is very much a 7-8 to me.  After one “friend-date” (as she called it), she revealed she is asexual and highly dislikes sex.  b)  After that, I was starting to give up on women, until I came across a woman that was actually a 9-10 on the attractiveness scale.  She is well-educated, knows what she wants to do in life, and met what I considered “my type.”  We’ve spoken many times, and being that she attends school where I work, she would visit me frequently.  Other women around her have stated “she looks like she’s really into you!”  Knowing this was too good of an opportunity to possibly be true, I ended up finding out in a more recent conversation that “though she dates men and fools around with them sometimes,” she’s actually into women.

The point of this is that either I had the weirdest stroke of bad luck, or this is becoming a huge pattern that women are abandoning men as their companions.  It wasn’t until after all of these (and many more instances, actually) that I found the red pill philosophy and have been happily embracing it.  I’m a “logic over emotion” kind of man, and this is the most logical thing I’ve come across in my entire life.

This could just be my tired brain thinking too much.  (I woke up at 3 A.M. and haven’t been able to sleep since, and here we are at 6 A.M.)

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

If a female says “I’m not into men.” to you, she really means “I’m not into you.”

In my experience, most of the females I have had sex with (a stastically valid sampling of all females in the United States at about 94% confidence) have either expressed an attraction to or actually had sexual experiences with other females. These women would identify mostly as straight but would make out or fondle other females. A much smaller percentage (maybe 30%) would actually admit to having done oral or engaged in some form of vaginal penitration (fingers, sex toys, etc) with another female.

For men, I believe there is what you might call a “clear, bright line” between heterosexual and homosexual behavior. I could make an economic argument against the existence of practical bisexuality in men but will save that for another posting… so let me just say that I believe once a man crosses that line, he tends to move steadily toward exclusively homosexual activities. Females, on the other hand, experience sexuality more as a spectrum and can dabble with other females or declare themselves exclusively homosexual and then later redeclare as exclusively heterosexual without any real cognitive dissonance or lack of social acceptance. You might say that females are practically omnisexual.

So based on these assumptions I would assert the following:

1) Most, if not all females are, to some degree or another, sexually attracted to other females as well as to men, including females who self-identify as lesbians (see point 3).
2) Females can engage in sexual activity with other females without it effecting their willingness to engage in sexual activity with men.
3) There may be some females who are simply not sexually attracted to men but the vast majority of females who self-identify as “lesbians” do so for socio-political reasons, not sexual ones.
4) There is a high likelihood that when a female claims to be leaving a relationship with a man “for another woman” she is not excluding all men from her sexual activities, just the man in question… in other words, she is using homosexuality as an excuse to dump a specific man.
5) Females do not feel that engaging in sexual activity with other females constitutes “cheating” in the context of an existing heterosexual relationship.

So basically I’d say if you’re with a female and she wants to get with other females, make sure you’re present and involved in the deal, otherwise you should consider it “cheating” and end your interaction with her. Furthermore, if a female leaves you for any reason, it was because she found someone who could give her more economically than you did, the gender of the other party is irrelevant.

Therefore, as a man you have nothing to fear from female homosexual behavior. Either you’re involved in a three-way or you should dump her.

[Anonymous 11]

Doc very much sums it up. Whatever crap excuse they manage to concoct for you means that you’re either out or not going to ever get in there.  We just have to learn to move along as there was really nothing ever to it.

I know that looking back over my life I never worked that hard whenever I got laid, as they will let you know.  Of course, I’m not going to even bother on going into the dangers of that part.

[Soul ManParticipant 1856]

Lame ass excuses that females offer up if they feel you are of a lower social caste than themselves…

1.) I have a boyfriend!

2.) I just got out of a bad relationship!

3.) I am married/engaged! (when they are not)

4.) Oh, I’m a lesbian!

5.) I don’t date (insert excuse here).

The truth is these dumb c~~~s almost all have this stupid f~~~ing deluded princess complex.  You see, when you are royalty why would you “settle” for a commoner?  You damn well better be 6’+ Prince F~~~ing Charming with a massive bank account, a Mercedes, a private island and jet, and be packing 12 inches of raging man meat that does circus stunts on demand.  It is goddamn f~~~ing outrageous how even the most mediocre ordinary sow thinks some douche in shining armor is going to ride in on a white horse, sweep her off her feet, and give her a life of pampered luxury while her ass widens as she stuffs her gaping maw with bonbons.  I think this attitude is why a lot of us wind up MGTOW.  Who wants to deal with that childish bulls~~~ attitude.  The best advice I could give to these stupid f~~~ holes is GROW THE F~~~ UP AND LEARN HOW TO BE AN ADULT!  But you know they won’t listen since society at large keeps feeding this sociopathic thinking of theirs.

In conclusion, don’t worry.  It really ISN’T you.  It’s them and their pathological bulls~~~ mindset.

HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...

[Anonymous 11]

@Soul Man:

We should also add the classic “You’re like a brother to me!” It has an especially astringent bite to it.  It seemingly implies that you are either into incest if you pursue, or she else considers you incest material sexually.  Of course, brother also means loyalty from you which she’ll show you absolutely none of until the first meth addled multi-felon with violent tendencies comes courting her.  I think the lawless thug is the anti-manifestation of female of hypergamy.  It’s much like matter and anti-matter, and depends on which direction a particular women’s hamster wheel spins.

[Soul ManParticipant 1856]

@ChauvenistPig

Great point…I forgot about the bulls~~~ “brother” excuse.  I’ve had that one pulled on me too along with the “too nice” horse s~~~.

John The Other did a great commentary of this video about “social strata” and “caste” in relation to “creep” vs. “viable mate” in a woman’s eyes.  The vid is a bit lengthy but worth the watch.  He gets to the social strata topic at about the 16 min mark.  He breaks this topic down concisely and actually explains a lot that the OP of this thread may be wondering.

HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

I think I’ve heard every single one of those excuses… they all translate to “You’re not hot enough, rich enough, tall enough or stupid enough to date me.” And I always think “Perfect. You’re not into me so I don’t have to be into you.”

There was a time when I used to try to take females seriously and believe what they said… the truth is they just can’t say “No, thank you though.” If i were the right guy for that particular female, she’d cheat, compromise, kiss my ass and do whatever it took to get me. Boyfriends, husbands, values and ethics be damned.

[…Spectator 1165]

[Anonymous 11]

@Soul Man: Now that you mention it I’ve heard too nice once or twice.

The worst one I’ve ever heard was what happened a friend’s good friend.  He got entangled with this little bitch about 15 years younger than him.  She had a 10 body and a 5 face as far as her looks went.  I instinctively did not like her upon first meeting.  She used him for 5 years never once giving it up to him.  She’d go out and f~~~ other guys while he paid for everything.

Her excuse was: “If I don’t find anyone to marry by the time I’m 29, I’ll marry you.”  He held on to that like a child would to a security blanket for many years.  Anyway, she’s 30 now, and not married to him.  He finally admitted he made a mistake.

The guy is a photographer and took some photos of her in her swimwear.  She recently had her mangina husband come over and threaten this guy physically to turn over the photos.

[Smitty the Great OneParticipant 1535]

When the “other woman” found out I was trying to fight for my relationship, she came with my ex-lady and threatened to beat me in my own apartment if I tried anything, while playing the “tough guy” role and causing my ex-lady to fall for her more as she treated her in an abusive manner

Hold on, and you DIDN’T beat the s~~~ out of her ass? Male, female, transsexual, omni-sexual, hermaphrodite, I gives a f~~~. No one threatens me with violence in my own home without dire consequences, that’s a natural fact. You should have beat that dyke until she literally s~~~ herself. Not because of the female either, but so that she could learn you don’t make threatens without expecting dire consequences.Please tell me you didn’t back down from this split-tail? A big reason bulldykes act this way is because no one calls them on their s~~~.

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

What’s really funny (in a good way) is that you guys have made me feel a lot better about myself and confirmed that I’m not [that] crazy after all by pretty much affirming everything I assumed…even better than any psychiatrist has ever done.  I frakkin’ love this page.  :o)

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

@ Doc – I would feel the same way, actually.  I was the type that if a girl voiced her lack of attraction to me, I’d lose mine to her.  It was (somewhat) easy to simply say “well, she’s not into me like that.  No point in pursuing what I can’t have.”

@ Smitty – I wish I wasn’t such a coward at the time.  I was working a state job and didn’t want to lose it, as the pay was fantastic.  I knew that if I did anything, she had her brother and my ex to give a false witness to the authorities.  I felt too much risk at the time.  Now looking back on it, I really wish I had done something.  It’s one of my biggest regrets.  The police, when I reported her, said they could do nothing unless she actually attacked me.  To be honest, this is why I’m thinking of getting a firearm of some sort.  (Not that I couldn’t have beaten her silly anyway, but I think threats with a weapon would be far more intimidating than risking getting in trouble with the gynocentric law)

On a second note, the only reason I know the 9-10 woman I was pursuing (the final woman I pursued before going my own way) is possibly lying to me is the fact that she has a dating site account that my best friend found out while he was surfing the page…where she says she’s just looking for guys to hang out with, and then I believe she did the usual “this is what I like in a guy…” ordeal.  That, and when she, my best friend, and myself went out for a social get-together, she was quite flirtatious with my best friend (who is making good money from military benefits, just got out of the military, is getting to go to school off said benefits, etc.) and I was kind of the…guy in the middle (despite my best friend trying to egg her to notice me more).  Playing the role of “hard to get” was never in my favor, heh.

[Anonymous 42]

Come threaten me in my own home; you will be atomized and dissipated in the jet stream with all other forms of smoke, settling over the Atlantic Ocean!  If not , be devolved and diluted into a local stream, either way it’s your final resting place, the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean. What body? NO BODY!

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

@ Chauvinist – Actually, I HAVE heard the “I’ll marry you if we’re not married by the time we turn 40” excuse rather recently!  It’s with a woman I’ve been rather close to, but personally I friend-zoned her after she voiced no interest in me (see my reasoning above).  Funniest thing about that?  Now that I’ve purposefully done that and she knows I’ve been taking the red pill in heavy doses, NOW she wants to consider dating me and even made moves on me a few weeks ago (and she’s the type that’s never really done that before to anyone).  Huh, wonder what drove her to do that?  She ended up regretting it after she finished, though.  She apologized to me and I simply shrugged and went back to what I was doing before.  I won’t do that again though; can’t risk having her falsely accuse me of something.  She doesn’t seem like the type that would do that, but after reading many stories on here and hearing them in videos, it kind of terrifies me a little, I’ll admit.

MG-Tower – If you find an illidium Q-36 explosive space modulator to disintegrate people, tell me where I can get one for that very reason.

[Anonymous 11]

@Megachris%:

I’m glad to hear we’ve helped you as that’s one of the best parts of this community. That’s funny you heard that same excuse as my friend’s friend did. I’ll post make topic of it one day as it will be a good read for everyone. I’m guessing they have about 20-25 excuses in total. Personally,the I’ll marry you by age X if I have not found someone else excuse is actually very insulting.

I do know throughout my life that I’ve had women that I’ve ignored show some interest and then back away the second I reciprocated. I think when we ignore them they feel not attractive so they dangle the lure to only pull it back. Sometimes, if they have a boyfriend, I’ve noticed they feign interest to get him jealous to control him. Who really knows why they do it as I sure as hell don’t.

The stories here mirror those of mine and my entire circle so this is pandemic. I will say a minority of guys I know ended up with good women. I do mean a minority. The main thing is to solve a problem you must recognize the problem. I’ve read a few of your posts and wondered if maybe you had the bad luck of running into some borderlines along the way.

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

I assume they feign interest to get the boyfriend jealous for validation reasons.  They get attention from the man they’re showing the “interest” to, and are testing the boyfriend…both of which is very annoying and cruel to the man.

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

I brought this topic up on the site of scum and villainy known as Tumblr.  Some girl tried tearing me a new one, haha!  I basically summarized everything we’ve talked about here, and was called an “idiot” and “delusional” for my views on women.  One girl, whom I am almost certain is lying, told me she knows no girl that has any attraction towards other women, thinks that the idea that all women use men for their money is BS, and that women don’t use men as personal workhorses….HA-frakkin’-HA.  This stuff seriously just gets more and more fun!! 😛

[Soul ManParticipant 1856]

Governor Megachris% wrote:

I brought this topic up on the site of scum and villainy known as Tumblr. Some girl tried tearing me a new one, haha! I basically summarized everything we’ve talked about here, and was called an “idiot” and “delusional” for my views on women. One girl, whom I am almost certain is lying, told me she knows no girl that has any attraction towards other women, thinks that the idea that all women use men for their money is BS, and that women don’t use men as personal workhorses….HA-frakkin’-HA. This stuff seriously just gets more and more fun!!

Bitchez ALWAYZ deflect when they are busted.  This goes back to the fact that they are spoiled overgrown children and will deny, deny, deny even when caught red-handed with their hand in the cookie jar.

My first ex….caught her bigger than s~~~.  Found pics of her licking someone’s  tonsils that I knew personally.  Also found pics/emails containing his miniscule man junk describing what he was going to do with it…and her replies in the affirmative.  When confronted her defense was, “We’re JUST friends!”  My reply…”Pretty goddamn good friends by the look of it!”  Thus began a 2 year reign of terror on any pussy that was willing to part her lips for me.  Of course SHE had a problem with that.  I actually laughed in her face when she confronted me about my “indiscretions” and told her what a stupid c~~~ she was for having such an idiotIc double standard!

Bitches…ugh…

HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

No kidding!  That’s wild!  Deflection seems to be their biggest “weapon”, and when you call them out on it, they then try calling you out for not debating on or answering their deflection (distraction?).  I’d love to call them “overgrown children”, just to see how they will react.  They’ll likely attack like a mob (including the horrendous white knights), which will only further confirm their comparison to children.  I’ll wait for the inevitable:

“THIS IS WHY I DON’T LIKE MEN”
“This is why women are so much easier”
“This is why I need feminism”

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I remain concvinced all those women are faking it. The Britney / Madonna kiss would not have taken place unless a thousand cameras were rolling. Im not the only man who thumbs though a girlie mag and feels nothing when 2 women get it on. I went to the playboy mansion in 2008. Here’s a picture from that evening:

••••

I took that photo myself. They were standing right next to me. Now I will tell you, those playmates surprised the s~~~ out of me. They were some of the friendliest and loveliest examples of women I have ever met in the USA. So open, and warm , and smiling and inviting and affectionate and they didn’t even know my name. Within 3 hours, I had phone numbers from actual playmates who wanted to go out some time. We chatted and it was very nice!! These women were what I would describe “totally and naturally feminine”. If she was wearing a cop outfit and handcuffs, it was JUST for show and a role she was playing.

But with regards to getting it on with other women and “not being into men” the testimony from them was it was ALL a ploy for attention and nothing more.

After one “friend-date” (as she called it), she revealed she is asexual and highly dislikes sex.

BOOM! oldest s~~~ test in the book. Complete bulls~~~ – designed to get you to see what kind of hoops you will jump through for it. She doesn’t hate sex, she just didn’t want to have it with YOU. Women pull this s~~~ all the time. “I’m allergic to sex”…. is what they may as well be telling you. Don’t even fall for that s~~~. Im just not into men is a LIE and even if you were GAY she would f~~~ you in 2 seconds if you were a movie star. FACT.

You simply can’t take a woman’s word at face value on that, because you can bet she once fell flat on her back with her legs in the air for a guy MUCH easier and more willingly before you. When a woman tells you “I don’t like sex” she’s lying through her teeth. What she doesn’t like is repeatedly finding out that sex doesn’t get her anything but sex. If sex got her diamonds and pearls, she would f~~~ing LOVE it.

Just look at that photo. They didn’t take out any guy’s dick and start sucking it. They just ACTED like they were “not into guys” and were getting off with each other for the cameras.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Author]

Posts