You, or the world?

[RockmaninoffParticipant 1641]

Welcome back, gents! I bring another question for deliberation.

Surely, we’ve all heard, when you complained about a negative outcome about your interactions with somebody: “A million people, and all the same outcome. What’s the common denominator here?”

I.e., A suggestion that it’s not a problem with the people around you, but it’s your problem.

I’m of two minds of this. On one hand, I believe that there is something seriously wrong with society’s social structure—what with feminists, socialists, women, etc. But, on the other hand, as a man, I feel a need to take personal responsibility for my actions; so if an encounter I have with someone doesn’t work out, I need to turn it into myself, and think about how this could have gone differently (it’s much more painful than saying something’s wrong with the world, which is why I, and a lot of other people, tend to opt toward blaming society).

Thoughts?

". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

I believe that personal assessment if mandated when confronted with negative outcomes.

Rockmaninoff wrote:

I’m of two minds of this. On one hand, I believe that there is something seriously wrong with society’s social structure—what with feminists, socialists, women, etc.

The issue is that when confronted with the social bias that comes from your above mentioned social structure, whether you are at fault or not you are still wrong.

What then is the value of introspection?

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

I’m a skeptic, so I’m always assuming there is problems with both me and the world.

[HitmanParticipant]

iv’e heard it said that if you are at a party and ten people tell you your’e drunk , then you are drunk ..but if your’e not drinking and it’s feminists yelling s~~~ at you , then i wouldn’t give it any value..popular opinions aren’t always correct..on anything ..i guess the buck stops with yourself .

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

The world all believed that the sun rotated around the world until one guy got the idea it didn’t. He wasn’t crazy.

Feminasties be hatin and that is not your fault. They are not about equality and, as crazy as it sounds, there really is a conspiracy and they really do hate you.

Because you have a dick.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

If you can keep your wits about you while all others are losing theirs, and blaming you. The world will be yours and everything in it, what’s more, you’ll be a man, my son. – Kipling

[OldBillParticipant]

I think it’s more a case of how you choose to react to the world than a case of you or the world being “right” or “wrong”.

As someone trying to live within the tenets of stoicism, I accept the world for what it is and only accept responsibility for my reactions to the “alarms and tumults” of the world.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[QcummerParticipant 652]

what are you trying to say OP?

[RockmaninoffParticipant 1641]

Qcummer wrote:

what are you trying to say OP?

How much of your negative interactions or perceptions of the world (and you must have negative interactions or perceptions, else you wouldn’t have chosen to opt out and go MGTOW) are because of how other people are, vs. how you as a person are?

". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée

[Anonymous 29]

Rockmaninoff wrote:

Welcome back, gents! I bring another question for deliberation.
Surely, we’ve all heard, when you complained about a negative outcome about your interactions with somebody: “A million people, and all the same outcome. What’s the common denominator here?”

It’s like sticking your finger into a power point and getting zapped. Why da f~~~ would you do it the second, third or the fourth time knowing you will get the same result ?

Rockmaninoff wrote:

I.e., A suggestion that it’s not a problem with the people around you, but it’s your problem.
I’m of two minds of this. On one hand, I believe that there is something seriously wrong with society’s social structure—what with feminists, socialists, women, etc.

In essence there is nothing wrong with social structure because it is malleable and it changes slowly as we advance as a human race. Wars plagues, technological and scientific advancement, and feminism are bumps on the road of our history which as usual will be tended to and fixed by men.

Rockmaninoff wrote:

But, on the other hand, as a man, I feel a need to take personal responsibility for my actions; so if an encounter I have with someone doesn’t work out, I need to turn it into myself, and think about how this could have gone differently (it’s much more painful than saying something’s wrong with the world, which is why I, and a lot of other people, tend to opt toward blaming society).
Thoughts?

Life and the world are not kind to any living being. We as a species are among the weakest ones on the planet and it is only our ability to think that had saved us from certain extinction. We would rather be sitting, up on the branches of a tree and pelting each other with apples than to be active and solving problems. That is our nature weather we like to admit it or not and its so much easier to blame everything but your own actions.
We are lazy but are forced to do what we need to do to survive. Changing oneself goes against the persons grain so instead, we need to make small adjustments over a period of time. The world/society will not change fast enough for us but even a square peg can fit into a round hole if you think rationally and solve the problem. All it takes is the will to find a solution.

[qeeqoParticipant 1168]

For me it’s simply experience combined with risk vs reward. My distant memory of pussy does not outweigh the inevitable ensuing misery. Some people can have sex, walk away, and not think twice about it. I tend to fall too easily which is seen by women as a vulnerability to be exploited. Add to that the daily new forms of rape, and the increasingly misandric courts and it just ain’t worth it.

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