You notice how miserable married men with kids are?

[AzurethParticipant 255]

Pretty much every guy I have known that was cool before ended up being angry and miserable people once they got married and had kids. A great example is my ex roommate. He was cool before, we’d party, drink, smoke some weed and have a good time. Fast forward and he married and had a kid with a woman and he did a 180. Suddenly was very anti-weed, partying, hanging out etc. all to take care of his wife who had a job but got fired and just wanted to play SAHM leaving him as the sole breadwinner and his wife hasn’t cared about trying to find another job.

It’s ridiculous!

[The Batman 2020Participant 2112]

I can see it in their eyes, I can feel them holding it under their breath. Sad.

Your 20's are for learning, your 30's are for earning.

[BubParticipant 1406]

Is he sure she got fired?

Just rolling down the road

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

C~~~s turned all of my cool friends into cucks.

All of them.

They all became someone whom I would never admire or see as a roll model.

And so I had one more reason to never let a woman change me. Not the least bit, because that is how they begin. Until you end up “under her thumb” and have to beg for your right to live.

I call the progressing cuck education the betaization curve.

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[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Once you are with a woman, she will constantly try to dominate you and “get on top of you”.

In the past, men could then retaliate and set matters straight using the method of their choice.

Now that the laws are so terribly biased against men, the woman can dominate and boss him around until he gives up.

This can be seen blatantly in everyday life: Men do not get help from society, men do not have human rights, men are considered to be always at fault.

Men can no longer “set things straight” inside of a relationship. This now leads to jail time.

So either be a slave to a woman or forget them altogether.

I decided to go with the latter, since women don’t offer anything of value anyway.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

Azureth wrote:

Pretty much every guy I have known that was cool before ended up being angry and miserable people once they got married and had kids. A great example is my ex roommate. He was cool before, we’d party, drink, smoke some weed and have a good time. Fast forward and he married and had a kid with a woman and he did a 180. Suddenly was very anti-weed, partying, hanging out etc. all to take care of his wife who had a job but got fired and just wanted to play SAHM leaving him as the sole breadwinner and his wife hasn’t cared about trying to find another job.

It’s ridiculous!

That summarizes my first marriage. She eventually gave me the boot. I went my own way and regained my cool.

After that I partied hardy for the next three years.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[BoarParticipant]

Best way to exploit a man: make sure he has to pay for a wife and kid(s) or pay all societal and legal consequences for not supporting them.

Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Azureth wrote:

all to take care of his wife who had a job but got fired and just wanted to play SAHM leaving him as the sole breadwinner and his wife hasn’t cared about trying to find another job.

Her “getting fired” = giving up her job was rather planned.

Poor sap.

And he now has to pay for “her expectations” on top of it all.

Until he dies.

MGTOW is the only way to live.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[The Black ScorpionParticipant 2146]

I saw a completely defeated, miserable looking man in his 20s in the line up at the grocery store.

He had two screaming kids jumping around and another one in a stroller.

His over weight wife was in the line up beside him, maybe 5 years ago she could have been a hot girl but now she was anything but hot.

God, I wish I had a picture of the look on his face.

He probably realizes that he’s going to have to bust his ass day in day out at a job he probably hates for the next 15-20 years to take care of his family. All to come home to diapers, yelling, screaming, drama and bulls~~~. Then he ‘gets’ to go to sleep at night with a woman he doesn’t find even remotely attractive any more.

He has absolutey no time, money or even energy to pursue his own interests.

I bet if he had a time machine he’d would have made some different choices with his life.

The greatest tragedy in life is to spend your whole life fishing only to discover that it was not fish you were after. - Henry David Thoreau

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

After that I partied hardy for the next three years.

I always “partied” inside of me when I saw a once asshole schoolyard bully having to live that way. Especially those who once tried to pick on me.

But I “lit a candle” for those who did not deserve such a fate.

Both ways, it made me glad coming home to an empty place at night which was intact the way I left it the morning before.

No drama, no misery.

No CIM (C~~~ Induced Misery) could ever get me.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

It’s exactly for guys like this that I put a MGTOW patch on my riding jacket. Pull up next to them in their s~~~ty minivans and you can literally smell their envy and regret.

And that is not my problem.

Azureth wrote:

all to take care of his wife who had a job but got fired and just wanted to play SAHM leaving him as the sole breadwinner and his wife hasn’t cared about trying to find another job.

Divorce in 3… 2… 1…

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

sidecar wrote:

you can literally smell their envy and regret.

That wakes memories…

Especially when they see you happy and going strong without obsessing about women and “how to meet them”.

They virtually lose their s~~~ when you are not a slave to your sex drive and do not suffer from the c~~~ virus.

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[bladeParticipant]

The happiest time .

Was when it was just myself and the kids . Kids have held on to those memories.

I was shocked when i had my kids at truly how f~~~ed women were when it came to there kids let alone there once ex partners . So many simps that were getting f~~~ed around on and used as baby sitters .

Some i guess know the threat of not been able to see there kids as its common knowledge these days that kids are a womans WEAPON . The woman use this as a do as ya told tool .

To those out there who listen or have listened to womans bulls~~~ and whiteknighted to the detrement of others your time will come . Run rabbit run run run .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

The Black Scorpion wrote:

All to come home to diapers, yelling, screaming, drama and bulls~~~. Then he ‘gets’ to go to sleep at night with a woman he doesn’t find even remotely attractive any more.

And this is what repelled me all of the way.

I did not shy away from feeding a family and taking care of them…

But it is the hateful and taxing atmosphere which nowadays (since 150 years) all women create.

That was what made me NOT want a family.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22533]

Gargamel wrote:

Azureth wrote:

all to take care of his wife who had a job but got fired and just wanted to play SAHM leaving him as the sole breadwinner and his wife hasn’t cared about trying to find another job.

Her “getting fired” = giving up her job was rather planned.

Poor sap.

And he now has to pay for “her expectations” on top of it all.

Until he dies.

MGTOW is the only way to live.

Yup, all part of her master plan.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22533]

blade wrote:

The happiest time .

Was when it was just myself and the kids . Kids have held on to those memories.

I was shocked when i had my kids at truly how f~~~ed women were when it came to there kids let alone there once ex partners . So many simps that were getting f~~~ed around on and used as baby sitters .

Some i guess know the threat of not been able to see there kids as its common knowledge these days that kids are a womans WEAPON . The woman use this as a do as ya told tool .

To those out there who listen or have listened to womans bulls~~~ and whiteknighted to the detrement of others your time will come . Run rabbit run run run .

You have to expicitly tell them about awalt.

Some guys grow up aware of how bad women can be, and may vow never to do certain things or date certain clear trouble women, but may stil think nawalt because they may believe the negative stuff is due solely to hormonal imbalances, or whatever, and still think they can be safe with a “better” woman.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Anonymous 12]

Men with kids look lost, especially the ones who have to carry around the gym bags full of nappies/diapers everywhere they go. Walking around with the family wishing they were someplace else.

[SH3LLZParticipant 5569]

I spoke to my son’s mom today. She and I never married but managed to stay friends. She wound up getting married and popping out another two kids…

That said, her husband is moving out in 2 weeks. She’s over it and can’t stand him. I have to say I dodged a major bullet. I usually only get her side of the story on things. I don’t think she’s a bad person, but the drama of marriage is something Im glad I did without!

#ICETHEMOUT!!! #MANOUT!!! #HIDEYOURWEALTH #VAGINAISWORTHLESS

[Anonymous 43]

I stayed at home with my kids. That part was enjoyable. Teaching my kids what they would need to know later in life, showing them how things worked, going to the mall and learning how to do things there, learning colors, shapes, how to read, how to write, how to construct an argument, how to see through bulls~~~, doing consumer math problems. I taught them car maintenance, how to change a tire, how to do basic wiring, plumbing, plastering, how to solder, how to paint a room. I taught them gardening, planting flowers, bushes, trees, and how to operate a lawnmower. We learned about bicycles and how they worked, and we went to forest preserves and learn the names of threes, flowers, insects, animals, and did trail and river clean ups. We went to children’s museums and learned basic physics, we went to art museums and learned about different types of art, and I taught them basic phrases in French, German, Russian, Ukrainian, Serbian, Polish, Italian. We went to bookstores and libraries and they got a crash course in classic literature, rhetoric and logical thinking, science fiction, Romantic Fiction, non fiction, history, science, politics, religion, travel, cultural differences. We would go camping and I taught them woodcraft, how to fish, set up camp, hunting, orienteering, map reading, hiking, how to make a lean to, how to make a fire, how to find civilization. I used to volunteer teach art school in their classes and eventually the entire school. All of this was the best part of my day.

The worst part of the day was dealing with the c~~~ and her s~~~ vortex. Asshole family members I had little use for, but they always wanted me to fix their broken s~~~, clog my toilets with their s~~~ and their kids s~~~ and their 20 kids s~~~, and fix their f~~~ing boats. Assholes would descend upon my house every weekend every summer because the c~~~ invited them, we would burn through $1000 in food, and then they would leave their larvae at my house for a huge backyard campout while they went back to their homes to f~~~ and make more larvae.

The worst part was the c~~~ calling every 2 hours to check on my progress on the household chores, to see if the children were alive, to see that I wasn’t f~~~ing every woman in the neighborhood. The there was the drive home when she would bitch me out for the entire 45 minute commute home, then tear me a new one because I watched Law and Order reruns while folding the laundry. She would lose her s~~~ every f~~~ing day because she passed through a dead spot in cell coverage in the same place and accuse me of hanging up on her and this would just wind her the f~~~ up.

After divorce, the kids and I still hit museums and art festivals, miniputt and batting cages, county fairs and playing catch with a football. Sometimes my older daughter took off with my camera and took pictures around a pond, my younger daughter liked playing computer games mostly World of Tanks. We went to the skate park with remote controlled cars, went on bike trails, went camping, signed up for park district classes and made lego cities. We went to college music concerts, libraries, parks, and went to a train museum for a ride in a caboose. We did epic fun things together from the time they could walk until the time they were coerced into telling me to f~~~ off.

It’s not the kids that wear these men down, its the c~~~s they married who make these guys miserable.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

SH3LLZ wrote:

I don’t think she’s a bad person,

She’s separating children from their fathers.

Do you think that makes her a good person?

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