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This has happened to me countless times.
Women want to jump chad, but they want to keep you around as a “friend” because you might be able to provide value in some way. In her eyes, you are basically a beast of burden.
I like to tell these ladies, “Well thank you for considering me as a friend. But to be honest, I was looking for a younger blonde who is a few pounds lighter and has a larger rack. I hope you will enjoy your boyfriend.” P~~~es them off every time. You can’t allow yourself to be used be these trolls.
This has happened to me countless times.
Women want to jump chad, but they want to keep you around as a “friend” because you might be able to provide value in some way. In her eyes, you are basically a beast of burden.
I like to tell these ladies, “Well thank you for considering me as a friend. But to be honest, I was looking for a younger blonde who is a few pounds lighter and has a larger rack. I hope you will enjoy your boyfriend.” P~~~es them off every time. You can’t allow yourself to be used be these trolls.
That’s a sign that you care. When you try to undervalue the other person like that, that clearly shows interest.
Hating or loving them, those bitches want attention. If you ignore her, she will burn inside.
Women just play those games because there are fools around there who accepts to play it. Sooner men boycott this BS, sooner they will stop this thing.
Don’t try to be friends with a girl that you want to bang, that’s a mistake, make it clear that if she wants your attention, you will give her attention while she sucks your c~~~. If you were friends, she will know that you will be around even if she didn’t suck your c~~~.
Make the game run this way, think about, what you want her in your life for ? Nothing ! You go your own way, she is just a person who will suck your c~~~ when you want it, if isn’t she, another girl will do, that simple.
Women just get it, men can learn based on others mistake, but women just don’t get it. Any rational being that analyses what happen with a woman with that behaviour, and will find out the obvious. They just don’t accept that when they hit the wall they will be the last choice of “that weirdo in school”, in their imaginary world, they never will hit the wall.
Here in Germany, it doesn’t matter if pre- or post wall. They have the same entitlements and the same inflated ego.
To me it also seems that they ride the carousel forever. “Settling down” has become impossible due to the lack of men with financial resources.
It’s clear that in all of these decades of men being screwed in a divorce, not very many “full walking wallets” are left.
Almost all middle aged men that I know are already in debt of some kind, or have to pay for “their past mistakes”.
And after the second divorce, they are so burnt up that they say:
“I f~~~ whatever comes around but I will never engage in another marriage. I cannot even afford it, if I wanted to”.
That is epic. And the reason why women keep on riding the c~~~ carousel till the end.
Because these poor and penniless men don’t have the SMV at age 40, than most of MGTOW have.
So the c~~~-carousel keeps on turning between old shrews and “divorce burnt” guys. And it seems to work out.
It works out for those women that were able to reduce their expectations. And all of the others settled down with cats or dogs.But none of them will ever get a man that can fulfill all of their wishes and entitlements.
Sometimes I refer to it as “overfishing”.
The exploitation of the oceans can only go so long until all fish are caught and the reproduction will come to a halt.
Women “overfished” wealthy men now for decades. Those that have escaped their net are now in high demand.
They were after me for my wallet. In 1999, I looked like a movie star. To the women, I was transparent, because the 20 years old, but top-model car didn’t look like money.
In 2013, the poison buildup inside my body has blown me up to 150 kg. I didn’t like myself that way anymore. But women were chasing me more than ever. I was the last “untouched” wallet in the village…
Now I start to look normal again… I am transparent again. My job of “bedsitting” isn’t high prestige. But again women just “swallow” when I tell then how much my disability insurance “makes” for me.
But then, I tell them that this money is being saved up for a restart. They swallow again. As if to say “No wallet for me this time”…
So, only wallets are in high demand. Men “to f~~~” are enough out there, but they have financial obligations and will not reproduce.
MGTOW will lead to these “good” (meaning 6-figure) men becoming extinct.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
It’s funny how when “the time is right” they find out they’re nothing more than a pump and dump any more. “Where are all the good men?”
And I mean it’s actually funny. That s~~~ is f~~~ing hilarious.
I’m 32. I’m fit and people always tend to think I am younger than I look. The hair line is receding a bit, but I’ve been shaving my head for years and normally wear a hat anyhow so its no big deal, and generally not even visible. The amount of times I’ve run into women from the past who wouldn’t even consider a date with me back 5-15 years ago while in their primes who I now wouldn’t consider a date with is f~~~ing hilarious. They’ve put on weight, became single mommies, aged like s~~~ from too much partying, and have s~~~ty dead end jobs(and I’m assuming a mountain of debt to go with it).
I can only imagine whatever little thrill they got back in the day by adding another orbiter to their collection is trivial compared to the thrill I get every time I’ve thought “thank god she didn’t latch on to me back then when I would have took the bait.”
I remember when I was younger the advice a lot off the older guys would give would be something along the lines of “look at her mother…you’ll know what she’ll look like in 20 years.” Now that women are trying to settle down older, you don’t even have to do that anymore…you just look at them and think god damn if she let herself go that much by 30 I’d hate to see her in 10 more years!
beast of burden.
You just turned on the music box in my head…
An example on how music helped me to understand women in days before MGTOW…
The Rolling Stones, “Beast of Burden” (1978, when “red pill music” was still allowed)
I’ll never be your beast of burden
My back is broad but it’s a hurting
All I want is for you to make love to me
I’ll never be your beast of burden
I’ve walked for miles my feet are hurting
All I want, for you to make love to meAm I hard enough
Am I rough enough
Am I rich enough
I’m not too blind to seeI’ll never be your beast of burden
So let’s go home and draw the curtains
Music on the radio
Come on baby make sweet love to meAm I hard enough
Am I rough enough
Am I rich enough
I’m not too blind to seeOh little sister
Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, girl
Such a pretty, pretty, pretty girl
Come on baby please, please, pleaseI’ll tell ya
You can put me out
On the street
Put me out
With no shoes on my feet
But, put me out, put me out
Put me out of miseryYeah, all your sickness
I can suck it up
Throw it all at me
I can shrug it off
There’s one thing baby
That I don’t understand
You keep on telling me
I ain’t your kind of manAin’t I rough enough, ooh baby
Ain’t I tough enough
Ain’t I rich enough, in love enough
Ooh! Ooh! PleaseI’ll never be your beast of burden
I’ll never be your beast of burden
Never, never, never, never, never, never, never beI’ll never be your beast of burden
I’ve walked for miles, my feet are hurting
All I want is you to make love to meSongwriters: JAGGER, MICK / RICHARDS, KEITH
Beast Of Burden lyrics © Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC, BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT US, LLC, SONY ATV MUSIC PUB LLCIn July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
I’ve the same problem, I fix some computers here and there because I need money. A c~~~ once though that she would need to pay because in her sick mind, it was a free work. After a discussion she offered to pay me next week, when I answered “so you can come here to get your computer next week”. She wrote almost a book on facebook about what happened, typical play the victim stereotype. Girl thoughts are like “I can rip him off ? He is a sucker. I can’t ? He is a s~~~ty person”.
The hive agrees upon you being a s~~~ty person. And the next thing is that if you really get a “local” girlfriend that likes you and f~~~s you, then the hive will do everything in their power to ruin your relationship. (2004)
Suddenly, your girlfriend will come up with so much s~~~ that “she heard about you”…
S~~~ that never happened. But women don’t want to be outcasts, their hive is more important to them than any man will ever be, and so they let you go.They don’t see that it is the jealousy of the hive that causes this. It’s pointless to try to convince her that her hive is lying. Even showing her proof will not help. So, let her say goodbye. The hive will take her back, saying “we told you so, he is a s~~~ty person”…
Women are always right.
And ridiculous.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
@gargamel wow !! So much wisdom, I really appreciate your answer !
I was never married but I have the same point of view, I become broke just for having a s~~~ty gf, marriage is too serious, is a persistent damage in my point of view. Your post was my today extra super dosage of red pills !
Women aren’t financially sustainable, they spend much more than earn, and depends on their walking wallets to get away with it. Here after the wall a lot of girls become the needy type of “I’m would be a perfect girlfriend/spouse, but why all good men gone ?”
About your weight, if you need any help, I will be glad to help a brother to get in his old shape !
About being transparent, at any point, even after the girl say that she is developing a feeling to me, etc… If I say that I’m unemployed, she just go away. Is the same here, no money, no honey.
So, only wallets are in high demand
That’s so accurate, women accept to share with other 5 girls the same rich man, but see average man as useless.
Your post was my today extra super dosage of red pills !
Sorry, but I have more of these “slow release” capsules. These red pills are so efficient that you can’t get them in any pharmacy.
In my profile you find a link to my “introductory thread”, which is growing all the time.
I wanted to extend my last post, but the edit button is gone.
So here it is: Dealing with a girlfriends “circle of friends”:
And that takes me back 12 years. My girlfriend back then came up with so many fairy tales on how many people I had cheated or treated poorly…
Showing her bills and these specific costumers purchase histories in order to clear my name was pointless. Because I could prove to her that these customers were “repeat and returning buyers” and there was no conflict. My situation was like a Rolls Royce dealer getting the reputation for “overcharging” for a stupid car.
I was selling German made top-grade electronics and I charged the list price, that we had to charge in order not to get in trouble with our dealer contract. We were prohibited to do “price dumping”.
But to the casual “smart and cheap buyer”, everything I sold looked overpriced.
And what lady wants to be seen in public with a man that rips everybody off?
I asked her to take a voice recorder with her so I know who spreads this s~~~ in public. Of course, she refused and I laughed… But she knew that I would put a bug in her purse one day.
She herself was on the carousel and today I would have tremendous fun putting an old modified Garmin nüvi in her car and hard-wire it to record where she has been (Even if turned off) . Happy cheating…
(Modify the switch of an old nüvi 765, to only turn on and off the “LED backlight” and the speaker, while the unit stays on and records the track. And put a big battery in it if she takes it with her…)
But there are already more miniaturized GPS spying solutions out there.
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@gargamel wow !! So much wisdom, I really appreciate your answer !
That is the ease a drug dealer has in talking about the damages drugs cause, if he doesn’t take them himself.
I had to work behind “enemy lines” for too long.
So if you like my red pills, here are more:
/forums/topic/hearing-women-talk-about-their-men-and-losing-the-contents-of-your-stomach/
/forums/topic/burnout-why-we-quit-there-is-only-so-much-woman-bulls~~~-a-man-can-take/
/forums/topic/the-women-that-kill-abuse-and-torture-and-how-they-abuse-power/In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
Just In Case:
True story:
I’ve got a buddy that makes over $200k a year. Great dad to his kids, nice house, his gorgeous wife stays home all day. He takes the family on an endless stream of vacations. She found and locked onto him when she was 32 years old. Introduced by mutual friends.
Now – this where things get weird. Introduced through mutual friends that he knew since HIGH SCHOOL.
And what happened next is freaking insane.
He was a good beta, ignored the fact she was out getting alpha c~~~ for over a decade before she met him, locked onto his wallet and white knight programming:
And he told me that when he got home from work one day, she was sitting in the kitchen kind of confused and she told him she had been looking for something in the garage and opened a box that had some items originating from the same high school she went to (same senior year too) but they looked like they might be his. Like a jacket with his name on it and the school mascot on the back & ‘Class of ’94’, a yearbook, etc, etc.
And he told her that was his stuff and that he graduated in ’94 from that high school.
Which was the same high school she went to. And the same senior class.
He told me she started acting weird and yelling ‘I don’t understand! I didn’t know you. I would have remembered.’ And he said she started freaking out, etc.
Then he dropped a bomb on the situation and told her she had two classes he was in. And that he had asked her to prom.
When she didn’t remember, she asked him what happened when he asked her to prom.
He told her she laughed at him and said ‘No’ and winded up going with a guy that was on the football team.
He said she started crying hysterically and he asked her how she couldn’t remember since they met 14 years after, introduced by mutual friends they knew from high school.
And she freaking lost it that night. Went nuts on a whole new level – had a total meltdown.
She came face to face with who and what she was. And in front of the same beta orbiter that had indirectly waited for the ‘right time’ and who by definition to this day has proven to be a certified white knight and proud of it.
Totally blows my mind.
About your weight, if you need any help, I will be glad to help a brother to get in his old shape !
My doctor has allowed me to lose only one kilo a month. Hard to do if you have pesticides in your fat tissue and Barium everywhere in the rest of your body. Barium causes rapid weight reduction and sets all the lipophilic (fat soluble) poisons free. I lost over 25 kg in one year which nearly killed me. I didn’t know about this problem – at first no doctor could tell me.
But when saw masses of mosquitoes dying in my sweat, It dawned on me, what was wrong and I sent in house dust samples from my business building to environmental chemical labs and the results were catastrophic.
My body still emits s~~~ that oxidizes all kinds of metal… I have 25 Kg to go to get back to my weight from 1999, before I rented this s~~~ place.
And believe me, if they ever sell humanoid robots, I won’t need one for f~~~ing with me… I need it for f~~~ing the hell out of the people who did this to me. Remember the 1973 movie “Westworld”…?
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She came face to face with who and what she was. And in front of the same beta orbiter that had indirectly waited for the ‘right time’ and who by definition to this day has proven to be a certified white knight and proud of it.
Totally blows my mind.
To me, this was simple:
All of the girls in school rejected “the weird electronics- and music freak” that I was.
And so I rejected them back. For ever. Period.
AWALT.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
If he smart he’ll toss that bitch to the curve and focus on stacking green.
@gargamel that’s horrible ! Wish that you get better soon !
I agree, 1 kilo/month, no more than that or else you will jeopardise your health.
Strange how c~~~s make stupid things to lose 8kgs a month, and then get everything back in the next month. They never learn, they always prefer the “easy way that never works”.
Keep losing weight at this ratio as you doctor said, everything will be fine. We can count on us brother !
What happened with your house ? You know how you became poisoned ?I know the movie ! Good idea haha
You know how you became poisoned ?
It is in detail right here. But I will extend everything someday soon.
/forums/topic/gargamels-7-part-mgtow-story-introduction-as-a-work-in-progress/
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
@gargamel I’m reading your posts now brother !
I’ve read the introduction in your profile, you obviously have the MGTOW in your DNA ! hahaha
You should write a book with KM !This brought me up a memory of a girl telling me that I was perfect to be an husband in my future, luckily I was still 12, and hell, was her wrong.
Translation she wants to go f~~~ the assholes, the scumbags, chads and the abusive men while she puts you on the backburner till she is around her late 20’s and early 30’s when she finally wants your nice guy ass.
Took only 2 relationships of being the nice guy to figure this s~~~ out and i changed my ways so now i am the scumbag like i always was before the nice guy stint i was on when i was a early teenager.
I now never sccumb to that s~~~ because i am a asshole and i am a proud one who has better s~~~ to do in his life then to be friends with chicks (like mastrubation, video games, drugs, schooling etc).
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
Great topic, it is extremely important to tell these women that they are not marriage material. Insert backhanded, velvet dagger words such as, I thought you would be fun, or someone that won’t take a relationship seriously. Then say your ideal woman is someone who has the same values you grew up with. Then articulate they need to be highly educated and work in a high paying job equal or better than you. After all that, explain you only wanted to have fun while you have the time available. When they ask you why date if you’re not trying to marry, reply with the same question.
Then kindly dismiss them and move on to the younger, dumber college aged women who are happy an older man is interested in them. Wrap it before you tap it, take the condom and the contents available and flush it down the toilet when you are done.
If it costs you your peace of mind, then it is too expensive.
Very important topic. Having lived through this scenario enough times to recognize abysmal female behavior when I see it. Seriously, who wants to have to think of a long line of chads having been where you “want” to go. Do you really want to go there that badly? None for me, thank you very much for the offer, but NO.
Sorry, but I have more of these “slow release” capsules. These red pills are so efficient that you can’t get them in any pharmacy.
In my profile you find a link to my “introductory thread”, which is growing all the time.
I wanted to extend my last post, but the edit button is gone.
So here it is: Dealing with a girlfriends “circle of friends”:
And that takes me back 12 years. My girlfriend back then came up with so many fairy tales on how many people I had cheated or treated poorly…
Showing her bills and these specific costumers purchase histories in order to clear my name was pointless. Because I could prove to her that these customers were “repeat and returning buyers” and there was no conflict. My situation was like a Rolls Royce dealer getting the reputation for “overcharging” for a stupid car.
I was selling German made top-grade electronics and I charged the list price, that we had to charge in order not to get in trouble with our dealer contract. We were prohibited to do “price dumping”.
But to the casual “smart and cheap buyer”, everything I sold looked overpriced.
And what lady wants to be seen in public with a man that rips everybody off?
I asked her to take a voice recorder with her so I know who spreads this s~~~ in public. Of course, she refused and I laughed… But she knew that I would put a bug in her purse one day.
She herself was on the carousel and today I would have tremendous fun putting an old modified Garmin nüvi in her car and hard-wire it to record where she has been (Even if turned off) . Happy cheating…
(Modify the switch of an old nüvi 765, to only turn on and off the “LED backlight” and the speaker, while the unit stays on and records the track. And put a big battery in it if she takes it with her…)
But there are already more miniaturized GPS spying solutions out there.
I’m still reading your posts, taking my time to think deeply about every topic and absorb every particle of wisdom possible !
hahaha you really knows about electronics ! That’s amazing, I’ve an arduino and some shields around here, it’s my 2017 plans to learn electronics !
Those cheater bitches, it’s depressing how nowadays marriages/relationships are just a checkpoint where women stop for a while, while they plan their next move. It’s so selfish.
I’m enthusiastic about those gadgets, even it doesn’t worthing the time to spend doing it to track a c~~~, is something that I would like to assemble just to see working. I don’t give a s~~~ about the c~~~, but the technology, and see it working is amazing !
One fancy trick would be you installing and physical device in her keyboard that accepts remote keys (via RF/Bluetooth), just watch her go away from her computer, and you can send some well crafted commands and get control over her computer (Like in windows, some key sequences like WIN+R,cmd,enter,ftp something to download your executable, enter, run the executable and close the terminal, and then remote control everything). There are endless possibilities of pranks hahaha it’s priceless you comment things like “you look like a fat bitch”, using a girl profile, and watch the world burn !
Obviously a c~~~ will find it “immature”, I don’t give a s~~~, we like to play with technology, it’s a nice way to wire several technologies together and have this unique experience, this is our way to have fun ! Thousand times better than “go shopping with the girls”, at least, in the end of the day, you don’t get ripped off, have some real fun and absorve real world knowledge.
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