Wubbalubbaduhdub: Is nihilism compatible with mgtow?

[GetaPoasParticipant 73]

Mgtow does seem more existential than nihilistic. The key difference being existentialism believes a purpose to life is indeed possible even if that purpose is the pursuit thereof. Nihilism on the other hand is the complete breakdown of self actualization and that nothing exists on purpose. This ultra relativism makes it really hard to control or command a nihilist as they’d even question their own reasoning and perceptions soon enough. An existentialist could say being on the plantation of marriage is a goal even if a distorted one, where as a nihilist would say what the f~~~ is wrong with that guy and if he’s gonna slave awau for a woman why not just bang a bunch of teenage sluts meanwhile and she never know about it?

Nihilism does make it difficult not to justify being a complete sociopath or downright lunatic. But really what could be more sociopathic and lunacy than the daily grind? It was supposed to be the kings and merchants duty to be morally upstanding as an example for the commoner. If the slaves and serfs are to be upright people for society to fucntion than this is no longer a romantic ideology just a clockwork one. A clock you don’t owe anyone to maintain.

On a more simple note… Why do women like Rick and Morty? Do they just get distracted by the fart jokes and slapstick elements? Because I don’t see any woman being happy for long with a Rick whon wouldn’t confine himself to a woman’s wants. In fact there was an episode where a woman hivemind blamed Rick on just that being more controlling and subversive than her when literally Rick never tells anyone what to do he merely acts in accordance to his will alone and f~~~ anyone who gets in his way. Jerry is the betabucks provider. Part of a failed relationship with kids who don’t respect him and his parents are literal cuckolds.

Morty a beta male but may yet prove to be not as big of a bitch to women or anyone as his father. Just being around Rick has at least redpilled him to the futility of attachment, perhaps soon fear and regret will follow. Or not…even Rick can sometimes feel immense pain and loneliness. Especially when his male friends are involved. Rick did not trust that one girl who was an agent, only accepted her as Bird Person loved her. He put his brotherly affections for Bird Person before his cynicism and well…everybody paid for it.

Women won’t see this. All they see is HUURDUUR PEWPEW LASER BEAMS DUUURHUUR WOMAN SHOOT MAN YOU GO GIRL

I actually write Rick and Morty fanfics on fanfic.net with the alias HookahSocialism. I think I’ve linked it before but unsure. I’m hoping the creators like it though I don’t think they’re mgtow.

[TuneoutParticipant]

I think certain elements of MGTOW are nihilistic in nature such as the NFG attitude,it is certainly the most compatible of the Manosphere except for the Black Pillers who really care nothing for the world around them save their own situation.

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

[CataphractParticipant 2656]

Nihilism is a path that some MGTOW will head towards after the Red Pill Rage. I like to think that MGTOW communities like mgtow.com can offer advice and a better outlook on life but ultimately it is the individual MGTOW who will decide what path he will take.

Marriage: About as appealing as wood-chipper diving.

[NomadicExpatParticipant 1785]

Ive been drowning in Nihilism for the past year. Not intentionally, by any stretch. Even Nietzsche stated that it was a transitional stage, not a final destination.

Trust me, it sucks being nihilistic. But I do believe it is a necessary “evil” on the road to becoming your own UberMensch.

I equate it like this: if you’ve been living in a house of cards all your life, surely at some point you realize it. Most people like the pretty pictures inside so they just hope it doesnt blow down while they are still around, hope and have faith in their paper thin structures.

For some reason, there are a few who cant take it; cant live in a fake existence within the house of cards, as they know it will at some point falter. The truly brave (or insane…possibly both) choose to step outside, see the house of cards for what it is, and give it a push.

Pushing the cards down is akin to Redpill Rage. Staring at the mess and realizing how futile and useless the whole thing was is Nihilism.

The next step is using what is at hand to rebuild something meaningful. But what? Another house of cards?

This is currently where Im at philosophically. The cards have fallen, I see their futility and bleak two dimensions. I stand in ruins. Why build another?

I know I will, Im out of the darkest part now. I still exist despite fully realizing the meaningless of it all. So… what the f~~~. I may as well build a house while Im here. Once completed, a sign will hang over the doorway which reads:

UBERMENSCH

To transcend, one must go through hell. Not the fire and brimstone of childrens stories, but the darkest night of Nihilism.

[Silent NoiseParticipant 211]

A man wandering through the void, aimlessly.

Barely any motivation, except to avoid suffering perhaps.

Is he going his own way? No. I think he’s just floating away, wherever the tide of nihilism takes him.

…

Nomad, what will be a consistently strong enough desire to build your house?

[NomadicExpatParticipant 1785]

Silent Noise wrote:

A man wandering through the void, aimlessly.

Barely any motivation, except to avoid suffering perhaps.

Is he going his own way? No. I think he’s just floating away, wherever the tide of nihilism takes him.

…

Nomad, what will be a consistently strong enough desire to build your house?

Many go their own way by first seeing the wrong direction, which is the path of the blue pill. They acknowledge the road to ruin, and take the exit ramp that suits them best. The MGTOW.com symbol is the perfect graphic depiction of this.

Nihilism isn’t taking the exit ramp off of “blue pill highway”… It’s pulling the emergency brake and jarring the wheel violently into oncoming traffic, in a manic attempt at going the exact opposite direction. I don’t recommend it.

It’s harsh. It’s jarring. It can definitely kill you.

-Break-

Silent Noise, I’ve been searching for that recently. I’m trying to get my vessel unstalled, get the engine going again. I believe it may be a cabin in the woods, on a large swath of land, with the deed in my hand. That image continually brings a smile to my face. It is there I could write my novel, shoot my guns until my powder runs empty, cultivate the soil and raise my livestock. Patent the two inventions I have in my head. Invite the bros over from time to time. When I get bored with myself, start up my firearms training company with other prior military brothers with a MGTOW mindset.

That’s all I’ve got for now. It’s better than what I had a few weeks ago, which was nothing.

[OldBillParticipant]

GetaPoas wrote:

Why do women like Rick and Morty?

Rick and Morty? Seriously? Three thousand years of Western philosophy and literature to explore and you’re taking life lessons from a f~~~ing cartoon?

I don’t know whether to laugh or vomit.

Listen, I like Adult Swim too, been watching it since the bumps were video of a public swimming pool complete with audio of lifeguard whistles. I’ve enjoyed the hits like Venture Brothers, the deliberately crude like Assy McGee, the wannabe surreal like Xavier, Renegade Angel, and the near misses like Tim Goes to the Mayor. Hell, my avatar is Carl from ATHF.

As much as I like the programming there, I’m not simple enough to think any of it has any true philosophical depth. Do yourself a favor; kill you TV and pick up a book. There are any number of free on-line philosophy course you can take too.

And about your “writing”: Fan-fic is s~~~. You might as well spend your time jerking off. If you have to use someone else’s characters and setting, you shouldn’t write at all. Write about what you know. Don’t piggy-back on the work of others.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Anonymous 18]

OldBill wrote:

Do yourself a favor; kill you TV and pick up a book.

Add audiobooks to the list.

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