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I always come to you guys about these things because you give the best words anyone can.
My current work situation is a mess. Management (and the university I work at) is so leftist and so gynocentric and it’s only getting worse. She has now resorted to making written statements of every mistake I’ve ever made and submitting them to HR, and telling me she “has” to do it (she said she wasn’t doing it until this past Friday when she was told by HR she was doing it wrong by NOT submitting things in writing).
She’s critiquing me for being “distracted” because I play background noise (which is what literally every worker in this office does), and is now claiming I’m giving students “incorrect information.” I always know if I don’t know the answer to something, I resort the student to one of our counselors, I look it up, or I simply ask.
I’m very forgetful, but she’s blaming my “distractions” on my forgetfulness, when that can’t be any further from the truth. She says EVERY time she’s walked by me (the hallway she comes from is behind me), she’s seen me on something other than a work related site. EVERY. Time. I can guarantee you 100% that’s not true. I’ve even taken note about the times she’s walked past me and I’ve been working most times. When I’m not, it’s because I’m changing the radio station/video I have playing in the background for background noise (which really helps me be more productive).
I also have a huge load, more than that other desk workers within the entire department. I’ve been here longer than all but 2 workers in my office and had been doing quite well before she came in a year and a half ago or so.
From what others have told me, she’s looking for a reason to let me go. I’ve asked for help on what I do, but my boss tells me “we have student workers that help you out and I think they do more than enough. You should be able to handle what’s given you.” Funny thing about that. ONE student worker is fantastic and she does as I ask when I give her an assignment. The other one is an outspoken far leftist feminist (this is important to note here). My boss and her get along sickeningly well. Boss has been trying to get her a job in the field she wants. I’ve told her about how the student worker sometimes tells me “I don’t feel like doing it” when I give her tasks. She even delivered mail for me then came back up and said “I didn’t feel like bringing the incoming mail back upstairs.” Gee, sure wish I could say I didn’t FEEL like doing something! Anyway, I brought the issue up over 3 weeks ago, and nothing has been done about it.
Here’s the bigger issue at hand.
My apartment lease is up before the end of this week. If I don’t renew, I will be paying month-to-month which is an extra $100, making my rent $900 (all bills paid). I make $1400 a month and I have other bills/debts to pay. Thankfully, my classes are paid off so I’m good there. That’s taken care of.
However, if I’m fired from this job anytime soon, not only would I lose my newly re-leased apartment because the lease would be broken (which would subsequently hurt my credit AND rent history score), but I also wouldn’t get my tuition reimbursement.
I’ll lose my job, my apartment, my credit score that I’ve been improving, AND any additional income.
I’ve been applying for jobs left and right for the past month or so. There’s a temp agency that said they’d be more than willing to take me back if anything happened with this job. I’m meeting with them around 1:00 PM today.
I can’t think of any other option at this point. Some are telling me leaving a State job for a temp agency is a horrible idea. But the temp agency would possibly pay more. The benefits might not be as good, but if I get paid more, I’d be fine anyway.
Anyone else have any ideas?
Man you are in a bad spot. A few thoughts:
1. If it’s a state job, how tough is it for her to really fire you? Sounds like she’s been out to get you for a while and hasn’t been able to get rid of you, so maybe she’s “all hat and no cattle” if you know what I mean.
2. I would say find something else, but you are already looking.
3. You can try to turn off all of the “distractions” just to take away ammo from her. I almost always have music on as I work, I too can’t stand a completely sterile environment so I get why you do it. But if you comply you take away her ammo. Plus it shows you are trying and not defiant.
4. The bottom line, she is creating a (repeat after me) “hostile work environment”. She’s trying to force you to quit. That’s illegal and she can be fired for it, and the school can be sued for allowing it to happen. So, document, document, document. Here is where she is stupid, she doesn’t understand IT. They will have record of everywhere everyone has been on the internet and when. I’m guessing she wouldn’t stand up to the scrutiny of having an attorney subpoena her IT records to see what she spends her day doing. I may drown bitch, but I’m going to the bottom with a fist full of your hair and taking you with me.
Hell, we had one person at my company years ago that was looking at porn at work. Someone caught a glimpse going into his office and reported it. So, IT had to look at more than one person and not just go after him because it would have been illegal. When they did, they found another guy that was coming into work and going onto Craigslist looking for gay hookups at lunchtime (he was married with children).
5. You can always tell HR that you have ADHD or something and become a “protected class”. Makes it much harder for them to get rid of you. Hell, they may even have to accommodate your disability. Women set that one up so they could be a victim, you could always try to use it to your advantage.
Just throwing s~~~ against the wall here, I wouldn’t begin to tell you what you “should” do. What I would do is everything in my power to get the f~~~ out of there, but I know you are already doing that so that’s pretty s~~~ty advice. If you wanted to go down that route, I would go to HR and complain about the boss, and use the words “hostile work environment”. That will let HR know that you know what the f~~~ you are talking about, because that is what the school would be charged with if you were to sue.
I could be way off base here, and this is a risky observation because if I’m wrong it’s the worst possible outcome for you, but my guess is that she would have had you fired by now if she could. I think she’s bullying you. Now, maybe HR has told her that you have to have X amount of evidence and she is trying to build the pile. In that case you’ll never know the straw that breaks the camel’s back until it’s too late.
At least if they fire you then you get unemployment. I’m sure they’d much rather have you quit on your own. But you can really f~~~ with them on the way out if you so choose. “Hostile work environment”…..
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Find a new job. She is trying to get rid of you. She is setting you up so she can get you fired. Go out the top before she shoves you out the bottom.
Don’t let finances over weigh your need to live in a sane environment. If you have to take a step down in pay, or if you have to relocate, in order to be in a friendly work environment, then do it.
To put it another way, what price can you put on getting a case of ulcers and getting fired to boot?
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If it’s a state job, how tough is it for her to really fire you? Sounds like she’s been out to get you for a while and hasn’t been able to get rid of you, so maybe she’s “all hat and no cattle” if you know what I mean.
I talked to one of my other co-workers who had the same position as me for 13 years there. She said in that time, she’s been threatened with more firings than she can even count. She said she’s sick and tired of my department being all about pointing fingers and not getting the job done. Honestly, I couldn’t agree more. ANY time I make a human error, I ask “how can I fix it the issue at hand?” It seems like a very diplomatic and logical answer.
But my boss makes it sound a lot worse than it actually is.
She also said some of my co-workers are reporting I have an “attitude” lately…which is funny, because I’m usually one of the more positive people in there, even if I AM faking it a lot of the time. I get worn out mentally while I’m at the desk and sometimes I guess I look tired, thus looking like I have an “attitude.” As if the other workers DON’T!? EVERY one of them have been the same way, but I’M getting in trouble for it?!
5. You can always tell HR that you have ADHD or something and become a “protected class”. Makes it much harder for them to get rid of you. Hell, they may even have to accommodate your disability. Women set that one up so they could be a victim, you could always try to use it to your advantage.
Do you have a disability like adhd?
Reasonable accommodation is your friend.
Funny you guys mention that. I actually DID go to HR today (I’m REALLY looking to cover my butt here for the time being) and I told them I have depression, anxiety, and ADHD (which I do have all three pretty heavily from what the psychiatrists have told me). I normally wouldn’t do such a “victim” thing and I’d go about my day working and just dealing with the mental instabilities, but desperate times call for desperate measures here. I’m not going down without a fight.
I’m the one white male in this part of the office, so it doesn’t surprise me much either. I love the two dudes I work with. They’re pretty cool. However, if I’m in trouble for just playing a movie review in the background and then pausing the video when my boss comes up to me to talk to me (she actually documented that to HR that I was WATCHING A VIDEO when I was merely pausing it), then she should check one of the guys out here because I know for a fact he watches YouTube shows of transsexuals/drag queens as well as extreme family/celebrity drama. Stuff that I’d get in BIG trouble for if I was watching it! Again, that’s his own thing so that’s why I don’t point fingers at him or anything and he doesn’t care what I do either. We’re cool with each other and talk frequently otherwise. But again, imagine if *I* had been doing the same.
Another instance was the super liberal student worker frequently takes “sick days” off. She goes to pro-abortion rallies and even came back and put a sticker that said “I STAND WITH PLANNED PARENTHOOD” on my WORK MONITOR. I wished I had kept it now, because I had thrown it away because seeing that stupid sticker made me so angry.
It brings me back to a video by Turd Flinging Monkey where he said “if your female boss catches you doing something she doesn’t like, she’s going to make it seem like you were doing it all day and every time so she makes you look bad” (or something like that). I’m definitely seeing that now.
I tried the ADHD route. They still got rid of me using other reasons.
I tried to sue them through EEOC to no avail.
Once a company is serious about getting rid of you – there’s nothing you can do
make sure you quit before they fire you, or your professional career is pretty much overproud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
I tried the ADHD route. They still got rid of me using other reasons.
I tried to sue them through EEOC to no avail.
Once a company is serious about getting rid of you – there’s nothing you can do
make sure you quit before they fire you, or your professional career is pretty much overThis is exactly what I’m worried about.
I want a future in city/state government work (like city management, for example), but if I lose my job within the state I’m screwed.
But you were watching the movie at work right?
Why are you setting yourself up for failure. Work time is work time. Not cell phone time, movie times.
Don’t worry about the other guy watching movies, Worry about yourself.
I work with a young guy who spends more time on his phone than working. When he isn’t on his phone he is on the net. On company time. He will be fired within 6 months. He should be man or not.
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No no, movie REVIEW. I was listening to it in the background. Background noise. DEFINITELY not WATCHING anything.
Voice record EVERY interaction with your boss on your phone. It may come in handy, saving you ass someday.
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Chris, dude, seriously? A year ago when I joined here you were facing much the same issues at what sounds to be the same place with what sounds to be the same supervisor.
I’m sorry that things haven’t improved but, ffs, you’ve just created even more issues.
You say that you were only ‘listening’ to YouTube. Okay. As a supervisor I’m walking along and see YouTube on someones desktop, I don’t think ‘listening’, I think ‘watching’. The IT man who calls up your internet history sees YouTube, he doesn’t think ‘listening’, HR doesn’t think ‘listening’, Department Head doesn’t think ‘listening’.
Who the f~~~ ‘listens’ to YouTube? People ‘watch’ YouTube.
An online radio station – you listen to. Online video sharing/movie reviews – they get watched.
Its all about perception.
I get where you’re coming from – I have music playlists on YouTube that I listen to – AT HOME!
You’re at work – you’re on somebody else’s Dollar. Focus on your job. Irrespective of whether your supervisor is a bull-dyke lesbian or a red-pill MGHOW, what matters is that you’re doing your job, that you’re focused, that you’re in (their) zone.
I’ve done some s~~~ty, menial, mindless work in my time. And even the crappiest job requires focus – a radio in the background playing mindless choons is acceptable but there is no way you can concentrate on your job and concentrate on a movie review at the same time.
And don’t swing the ‘oh but everyone is doing it’ line – its not ‘everyone’s’ job that’s on the line – its YOURS.
Seriously, if you were working for me – you’d have been canned.
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I would never let it get to this point. She’s making your work life a personal hell. There are other ways to handle this sort of thing, and “explaining yourself” is never a good idea. You don’t want to talk to women or explain yourself. You want to STFU – even when a woman WANTS you to speak her, just smile.
She already has it in her head that you can be “terrorized” on a daily basis, and the first thing to prevent that is to carry yourself and communicate that his is NEVER necessary – or tolerated by you.
This is no different than a c~~~ in a relationship giving you grief like “Oh yeah? Remember that time when you said X last week but you didn’t do it? Why didn’t you answer your phone? Why didn’t you text me back? Who just texted you? Why did you like her facebook picture? Explain yourself, mister.”
F~~~ that bitch.
Time to start having TWO irons in the fire at all times.
That means having a SECOND unrelated job – like a waiter or something on weekends.
3 shifts a week or something. Use your imagination.ONE 9-5 / Mon-Fri job in your 20s just so you can make the rent will not propel you forward. THat’s total hamster-wheeling. Break out of that as quickly as you can. Christ, you can even be an Uber driver or ANYTHING to make some extra bank. Drive trucks. Tend bar. Who cares. You can see a 50% increase in your income if you’re willing to kick some. Start treating this college job like pocket money you can live without. Because you may have to.
The endless concerns about how to handle this bitch with more words and paragraphs is the OPPOSITE direction. You never want to speak to (or deal with) her.
On top of my jobs, I worked as a bartender in some of the worst (& nicest) toilets in town. I put (sometimes more than) $400 extra in my pocket every week – cash – on top of the take-home from “job” which was often actually LESS – and I worked more hours doing that!
YES everyone – especially every woman / date / girlfriend – told me I was “crazy” and I “need to get a life” because I worked like a motherf~~~er, but that’s exactly what I was doing. GETTING A LIFE and BUILDING ONE FOR MYSELF….. which I would one day be very glad to never permit them to have any opinion on.
I would finish work, to go to work again.
By the way, I ran into one of those bitches 20 months ago, and she’s a broke 38-year old single mother now. This bitch actually used to tell me “you need to get a life”…. and on that day, I reminded her. Ask me how that good felt some other time.
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Anonymous42Hey Gov, is this your additude?
It should be!I would never let it get to this point. She’s making your work life a personal hell. There are other ways to handle this sort of thing, and “explaining yourself” is never a good idea. You don’t want to talk to women or explain yourself. You want to STFU – even when a woman WANTS you to speak her, just smile.
She already has it in her head that you can be “terrorized” on a daily basis, and the first thing to prevent that is to carry yourself and communicate that his is NEVER necessary – or tolerated by you.
This is no different than a c~~~ in a relationship giving you grief like “Oh yeah? Remember that time when you said X last week but you didn’t do it? Why didn’t you answer your phone? Why didn’t you text me back? Who just texted you? Why did you like her facebook picture? Explain yourself, mister.”
F~~~ that bitch.
Time to start having TWO irons in the fire at all times.
That means having a SECOND unrelated job – like a waiter or something on weekends.
3 shifts a week or something. Use your imagination.ONE 9-5 / Mon-Fri job in your 20s just so you can make the rent will not propel you forward. THat’s total hamster-wheeling. Break out of that as quickly as you can. Christ, you can even be an Uber driver or ANYTHING to make some extra bank. Drive trucks. Tend bar. Who cares. You can see a 50% increase in your income if you’re willing to kick some. Start treating this college job like pocket money you can live without. Because you may have to.
The endless concerns about how to handle this bitch with more words and paragraphs is the OPPOSITE direction. You never want to speak to (or deal with) her.
On top of my jobs, I worked as a bartender in some of the worst (& nicest) toilets in town. I put (sometimes more than) $400 extra in my pocket every week – cash – on top of the take-home from “job” which was often actually LESS – and I worked more hours doing that!
YES everyone – especially every woman / date / girlfriend – told me I was “crazy” and I “need to get a life” because I worked like a motherf~~~er, but that’s exactly what I was doing. GETTING A LIFE and BUILDING ONE FOR MYSELF….. which I would one day be very glad to never permit them to have any opinion on.
I would finish work, to go to work again.
By the way, I ran into one of those bitches 20 months ago, and she’s a broke 38-year old single mother now. This bitch actually used to tell me “you need to get a life”…. and on that day, I reminded her. Ask me how that good felt some other time.
Nothing comes from nothing.
I know a lot of people will be wondering why I stuck around for another year like I did when I’ve been having issues like this.
Tuition reimbursement here has been great. If I could simply transfer to another department, I would. Unfortunately, it’s not that easy. I essentially can get my associate’s degree in December 2017 and only pay for the books.
It’s just rather annoying this manager has made things absolutely unbearable. Even if I show a “smile” when she’s talking to me and I don’t explain myself, she takes offense to that and thinks I’m being “c~~~y.” You can see her visibly CRINGE when you act confident around her, no joke.
I’m not distracted by anything around me in the slightest. I get the work done like I’m supposed to. I forget things occasionally, which is no more than a human error. Any errors I make, I try to remedy. It’s up to management if they want to deem the error as “irreparable” or not. I’ve done my work, fixed other people’s problems (because they’re either too lazy to do so or they actually need the help), and helped out countless students.
The only thing she can truly bite me for is the forgetfulness. Anything else she’s tacking on is just a reason to let me go.
I actually went to a temp (to permanent on frequent occasion) agency that pays significantly more than I’m making now. Signed my lease for another 15 months at my apartment. I can manage to work around this problem…but I need a change of employment atmosphere.
Anonymous42Hey Chris, MGTOW her in the politest way possible, avoid her like the plague, keep inside your realm at all times! Think emotional ghost with her, I’m sure countless man that know her are. If music is tolerated in other areas by other employees then get an ear bud and listen to it that way, if she dare complains then, you can show harassment, discrimination, and bias against YOU personally.
Your logic is sound in tolerating such bulls~~~ for free tuition, but tolerate it in a different way, don’t add anything more than the absolute minimum words of exchange when dealing with her. It YOUR words against her that will sink you, but letting her run her mouth at a stone wall gives you a greater chance of using “her words” against her! The right to remain silent is my number 1 MGTOW LAW! It gives you untold and unseen advantage!
You don’t need allot of advice on your logic, you’re apparently thinking and doing for yourself! You just need sharper f~~~tard skills!
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