Women twice as likely as men to get tenure-track jobs at college science depts

[GoneGaltParticipant 361]

Thank goodness I’m permanently out of the workforce, I do not envy you guys facing this institutional bias – notice how the study authors did NOT conclude that there is now an anti-male bias, only that an anti-female bias no longer exists, which of course is completely irrational since that could only be true if women were getting the positions at the same rate as men, not TWICE the rate! Jesus, the blatant dishonesty is repulsive, but it’s par for the course these days …

http://theweek.com/speedreads/549609/study-women-more-likely-than-men-tenuretrack-jobs-university-science-departments

A surprising new study suggests that female candidates are twice as likely as men to gain tenure-track positions in science-related university departments, all other things being equal.

“It is a propitious time for women launching careers in academic science,” researchers from the Cornell Institute for Women in Science wrote in the study, published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

We interpreted our findings to mean that anti-female bias in academic hiring has ended,” the study authors wrote in a CNN op-ed. “Changing cultural values, gender-awareness training, and trends such as the retirement of older faculty members have brought us to a time when women in academic science are seen as more desirable hires than equally competent men.” Meghan DeMaria

 

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

I too am glad to be out of the work force.

Women have a feminist fantasy and a plan. It’s not a conspiracy if they do it out in front of you and put it in the paper.

Women want to be in all positions of power.

But I would still get a degree if I could. I would just ignore women and treat them as the worker drones they will become. I would only talk to one if totally, absolutely necessary and then by email so I have a record.

I wouldn’t let any feminazi bulls~~~ get in my way.

As I stated in an earlier post. Men are the only ones who hit the very high end of the intelligence spectrum. So very smart guys should always go to school.

IMO, any smart guy who’s willing to work hard will succeed over most women.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Anonymous 42]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

Women want to be in all positions of power.

Hey HRPuff, women “are” in all positions of power, the attitudes of some of these “so called” ladies, are atrocious, I’ve lived with these women all around me, they’re obnoxious, conceited, and very much narcissistic, they act like their s~~~ don’t stink! It’s an attitude against the lower class, especially the men, they think they’re gifted with supremacy, like their a Deity. It’s really disgusting being a humble person and witnessing the arrogance. When the tables are turned, and the dollar crashes (no industrial base) we’ll see who becomes humble and submissive. I’m watching things deteriorate at an alarming rate, whiles the academia elite create a fantasy world built upon ignorance. The bias is astounding, everywhere I look I see industrial decay, they’re living it up on borrowed time.

Just the other day on AM radio I heard the Catholic Church had only just adopted the virgin Mary as a vessel of purity in 1956 and later a necessary path to salvation, that was interesting that it was being discussed. The gynocentrism is plain to the naked eye.

P.S. During the industrial age, conflicts were always won by destroying the opponents industrial base through economic deprivation, or physical destruction; we now have both economic and physical destruction to our industrial base, something to consider looking at the current state of affairs……..

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

They lowered admission scores in my medical school to create a class that was 50% women. 5 years after graduation, the number of those women practicing medicine full time: 35% (nationally). Other than manufacturing the data so that you force an indicator to equal a certain value, it does little good to invest the resources necessary to provide an education to someone who will not exert the effort to use it. Thus proving once again that equal opportunity does not result in equal outcomes.

What these universities who have forced their data to reflect the magic 50% number are going to find, is that a tenured professor without the necessary discipline to make the effort to advance the university, will be nearly impossible to get rid of, and will stand firmly in the way of anyone (man) who might keep them from falling behind other universities (Chinese).

Feminists will steer a ship onto the rocks in order to prove that they are now in control of it.

My response as a mgtow: Go ahead honey, full speed ahead, I’ve already abandoned ship and swam ashore…

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

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That news also appeared on a AAAS URL, which I mentioned in a post on a different thread.

 

I’ve often referred to a certain foreign-born grad student that I courted while we were both working on our Ph. D.s.  She got her tenure-track jobs at a certain Canadian university not so much due to her research background but because the government wanted more “women and visible minorities” in such positions.

 

There was clearly no need for that condition for hiring her.  That woman was plenty smart on her own with an IQ well within the upper percentile and aced just about every course she took.  She could easily have qualified for it by virtue of her own abilities.

 

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BP:

 

I’ve noticed similar malarkey in my profession, engineering.  Unfortunately, it isn’t enough just to hire women for such positions–there’s an increasing emphasis on promoting them to departmental and faculty administrative positions as well.  That scares me as most profs nowadays don’t have any field experience whatsoever (because it’s seen as a liability to getting a tenure-track job) and they are in charge of determining how my fellow engineers are educated.

 

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

I agree that she could have qualified for that on her own Quarter. But now, no one who sees her in her current position can be sure wether or not she’s in it because she earned it, or because she was a ‘woman and visible minority’. We can never know if there was a male applicant even better qualified who applied for that position, but was quietly turned down due to his gender/ race.

As a white male, no one who sees me in my position can generate doubt about my qualification for it based on some affirmative action designed to artificially qualify me for it. No such affirmative action measure exists for me. The result is that I’m automatically assumed to be qualified for the position I have by anyone who sees me in it. The Asian girl you speak of has been robbed of that assumption by a government who openly announces that it will discriminate in her favor, if necessary, in order to put her in that position regardless of wether she’s the most qualified or not. So, if she actually was the most qualified for it, she can never get the full (and fair) assumption that she was.

So, is it my white male privilege that causes me to expect that assumption of competence from people, or is it this openly acknowledged system that creates doubt about the competence of any female/visible minority in that position? On a small scale, for a single job in a single school somewhere, it could be ignored as being of no great consequence.

But very soon, a bunch of feminists and their mangina assistants are going nominate a woman for president based on her gender, not her qualifications. If she wins, our country will be sending her off to Russia and the middle east to press our interests across the negotiating table from Vladimir and the ayatollahs… who everyone knows very well are maximally qualified for their positions at that table…

The liberal American media can convince a majority of the products of the American public education system to vote for a ham sandwich for president. But tyrannical dictators of military regimes in 3rd world countries are not so easily (mis)led.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

I think we may be looking at this through the lens of being a male. I notice in the posts on this thread for concern for the future of our society, projects that are important to our national success and concern for the welfare of citizens of our nation.

I think women lack this concern for the future of our society. They and they’re own matter. Their own being their their children.

Women simply want to rule over men as “reparations” for millenia of men dominating women.

These reparations are to be determined by the majority, women, without the consultation or discussion with the minority males.

Just the word of the superior class, women, is enough to ruin a mans reputation and imprison him for years.

Women want men to squirm and beg.

Women don’t give a s~~~ about the future, that’s men’s work.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

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BP:

 

Unfortunately, being white will always be seen as a sign of privilege, even by other whites.

 

I found that out in high school when, in the later grades, I earned high marks.  I was accused of being a “teacher’s pet” or a thief for “stealing” all the A’s, as if they were in limited supply.  My detractors, however, didn’t bother much with studying and preferred to go partying while I stayed at home at nights and hit the books.

 

Later, while I was teaching, people just looked at my degrees and figured all I ever did as an adult was be a professional student.  Few knew that I worked in industry, sometimes in hazardous environments.  Fewer still were aware that I spent much of the 1980s out of work, like many other members of my profession.

 

I don’t think I would have changed many minds if I told people the truth.  Even if they believed me, they would have likely kept their impressions about me because it was to their advantage to do so.

 

The fact that I did have to overcome a lot of obstacles to get my qualifications makes practices such as preferential hiring on the basis of anatomy all the more irritating to me.

 

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