Women Think They Will Be Able To Fall Back On Traditionalism

[Anonymous 2]

I had a conversation with a woman at a pub about the steadily declining marriage rate. While she admitted that she understands that men don’t want to marry because it is a s~~~ty deal for them, she sees a future where feminism will ultimately fail, and things will eventually “bounce back” to traditionalism to bring men back, and that will solve the problem.

This isn’t the first time I have heard a woman say this. The funny part is, there’s no way you’re going to get MGTOW men to buy back into traditionalism. Not only did feminism create an anti-male society, it actually made men realize what a s~~~ deal they have been getting for all the years under traditionalism. Traditionalism is still a system that treats men as disposables who are expected to sacrifice their safety and well-being for the protection and benefit of women. It’s basically just “the other feminism”. If these women really think that they are going to get red pill men to go back to that, they are horribly mistaken. There’s not a chance in hell that they will get us to return to the role of the disposable male by bringing traditionalism back. That ship has sailed,and it’s not coming back! Besides, by the time feminism crashes and burns to its death, feminists will have created so many red pill men that traditionalism will have no chance of making a return.

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

I wouldn’t put it past that feminism killed off the dinosaurs. DGTOW could have led to their extinction.

[TornParticipant 35]

Yeah you make a good point, once we have taken the red pill there is no going back. These women are delusional and many men think the same way, because it is one of the few known alternative models. However they are all wrong, only new unchartered territory awaits or total destruction that would reset collective memory.

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

Traditionalism is the trump card that every trollop plays after they’ve hit the wall.

That is why anti feminist trollops and tradcon trollops are complete frauds!

[Mr. ManParticipant 2916]

Murph, you totally nailed it. I always have to smack my forehead in disbelief when I read MGTOW men waxing poetic for a return to the traditional, Leave it to Beaver, nuclear family.

Like you said, marriage has ALWAYS been a s~~~ deal for men, even if he returns home to June Cleaver, in her pretty dress and pearls, with dinner on the table and on time. He’s still a plow horse for her, her kids and his boss. A rose by any other name and all that.

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

Traditionalism these days is men working 60 hrs a week, while the c~~~ does no housework, gets fat and goes shopping. Another bad deal for men.

I’ll still pass.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

Murph really did nail it. I don’t know what it would take for me to ever let a woman into my life. Seems impossible, and to tell you the truth, although all my man parts are working fine, I have zero desire anymore, born of the horrible stories here and my own experience. There truly must be a God, for only He could put such a desire into man for something that looks like a squished butterfly

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[AntipathyParticipant 4901]

bigboy83 wrote:

Traditionalism these days is men working 60 hrs a week, while the c~~~ does no housework, gets fat and goes shopping. Another bad deal for men.

I’ll still pass.

Right on. Even if the old cliche of men working and the wife being a stay at home mom were true … the bitches these days would just lay around the house posting bulls~~~ on social media, watching soap opera’s, and eating junk food while getting obese.

No to feminism, and no to traditionalism. Time for an entirely new direction.

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

F~~~ that! Self-preservation for the win!

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[BeerParticipant 11832]

What these dumb c~~~s don’t understand is its too late for them. Today’s unwed women are fatter, sluttier, more debt ridden, more likely to have kids that aren’t yours, more likely to have STDs, and older than what any previous generation of men had to pick from when they were marrying off. Feminist or traditionalist…it really doesn’t matter…men still don’t want to marry post wall train wrecks.

Marriage rates declining is a trend that has been going on for decades thanks to feminism and no fault divorce. Even if change that was good for men started to happen right now, its too late for today’s women. Marriage rates would still probably drop for a few years before men realized they aren’t getting f~~~ed anymore, and then it would probably take the same amount of time to get back to the same marriage rates we had 50-100 years ago that it took for them to fall to their current lows.

Chance of a 30 something year old guy who has decided to never marry at this point changing his mind is pretty much zero no matter what women do, but who knows, there might be a point in the future when people look back at us as a couple generations who were totally f~~~ed up with our lack of marriages and high divorce rates. More than likely the institution of marriage will just continue to decline into irrelevance, but hey, you never know.

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

I can’t help the feeling that all this bulls~~~ is a trap. As in, the family was f~~~ed up on purpose. Doesn’t change the facts, or the results. Just hate getting outsmarted.

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[RennieParticipant]

Even if we could go back to traditionalism, women would immediately set about trying to rebuild what they just lost. No thanks.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

It’s not just marriage.

How many women, when going out on a date expecting a free meal, try to claim they’re “very traditional” when the time comes to pay the bill? And now the media is full of these same women complaining high and low that they can’t find any man willing to date them, never mind marriage.

Women can’t even find men to buy them free drinks any more.

But that is not our problem.

Men aren’t merely rejecting feminism. Men aren’t merely rejecting traditionalism. Men aren’t even rejecting women themselves.

Men are simply finished with giving women a free ride, under any label.

Women will have to earn their keep from now on, one way or the other. You wanted to be “strong and independent? laydeez? Well now you don’t have the choice. Good luck with that, and enjoy your cats.

[Anonymous 3]

Even if marriage comes back, the age range for females getting married wound be about 14-18. That’s your historical average for a reason. The top end of that average is around 20-22. Women over that age simply are not going to get married, absent significant wealth which they’d have to turn over to a man.

These women think they can just leech off of men and erase everything that happened, because they truly do not respect men one bit. They think men are desperate and will accept anything a woman wants.

And when society isn’t busy pandering to women, because men are busy trying to survive themselves, most men have zero interest in “chivalry” and taking care of other women, no matter how nice those women may act. That may be because that phase of society always comes after feminism exposes female nature, so men’s sympathy runs out, or it just might be a reality of hardened men in masculine environments.

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

sidecar wrote:

It’s not just marriage.

How many women, when going out on a date expecting a free meal, try to claim they’re “very traditional” when the time comes to pay the bill? And now the media is full of these same women complaining high and low that they can’t find any man willing to date them, never mind marriage.

Women can’t even find men to buy them free drinks any more.

But that is not our problem.

Men aren’t merely rejecting feminism. Men aren’t merely rejecting traditionalism. Men aren’t even rejecting women themselves.

Men are simply finished with giving women a free ride, under any label.

Women will have to earn their keep from now on, one way or the other. You wanted to be “strong and independent? laydeez? Well now you don’t have the choice. Good luck with that, and enjoy your cats.

No s~~~. Yea, what’s with the cats? Anybody figure that out? Any idiot knows a dog is a better companion. Chicks identify with cats?

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Chaff/Flare wrote:

No s~~~. Yea, what’s with the cats? Anybody figure that out? Any idiot knows a dog is a better companion. Chicks identify with cats?

It’s simple. Cats will hang around anyone who feeds them. Women like to pretend the cats are surrogate children who love them and enjoy their companionship etc., but they’re really only there for the tuna.

There’s also those shaky little yaprat p~~~ dogs that women carry around in their handbags. Women keep those around because they are too small and weak to get away.

[Anonymous 25]

Even if woman began right now (which aint gonna happen), rolling back the hatred and persecution of men and righting the wrongs that have been done and financially compensating men, it would take decades before they could get men to even reengage. Their chances of anything even close to traditionalism are nil.

Women now have to face the reality that most of them, will live and die with never getting married, have children or a family life. Their ovaries will freeze over and they will die lonely and alone.

Once women realise the reality and that there’s no chance of men ever going back, they are going to be mightily p~~~ed at feminists. A real cat fight will begin. That’s when we will start seeing feminists go to jail.

[BritGHOWParticipant 2566]

Once a man in his late 20’s/early 30s and of sound mind has got used to the good life, living single and free in his own home by his own rules, keeping 100% of the money he takes home and spending/saving it as he decides on/for what he wants, and without the hassle of kids he doesn’t want or the risks of unplanned pregnancy and false rape/DV accusations. There is simply no way other than a massive rush of s~~~ to the brain that he is ever going to give that up, certainly not for the typical wall approaching woman of that age offering nothing but a life of misery and debt.

Anonymous wrote:

Even if marriage comes back, the age range for females getting married wound be about 14-18. That’s your historical average for a reason. The top end of that average is around 20-22. Women over that age simply are not going to get married, absent significant wealth which they’d have to turn over to a man.

For the reasons above this is always the way it has to be, a woman has to get her claws into a man early while he is young and stupid, thinking with his c~~~ as opposed to his brain and she still has her looks to bring to the table and before he realises the awesome life available to him by staying single.

As others have stated, the current situation has not only opened men’s eyes to the cesspit that is modern relations~~~s but also to the raw deal men have been getting right from the get go. A “better” deal which is still detrimental to me is not a deal I for one will be signing up to anytime soon, so forget all about traditionalism ladies, you wanted equality, now you have it, enjoy.

[Anonymous 42]

Fall Back On Traditionalism? No no, not happening, this train doesn’t reverse, the train station of traditionalism was burned to the ground exposing the bones of the man sandwiched in it’s mortar and crushed to death supporting a family! A family that was at least his property under the abolished laws of (so called) patriarchy.

It’s doom, gloom, and misery in every direction! Except one…

[Anonymous 11]

After carouseling across 2,500 c~~~s, they think calls for traditionalism will work. Slave plantations were traditional. Cutting peoples’ hearts out in sacrifice was once traditionalism too.

Sorry cupcakes, you burned it all to the ground and salted the Earth.

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