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There are a number of videos online with women complaining “Where have all the good men gone?” or “Why don’t men want to get married?” The answer is the red pill of course. But, amid these conversations, women attempt to cite reasons why men should want involvement with women and the benefits derived therefrom. One of these “benefits” is that women are responsible for having a civilizing effect on men, thereby domesticating them. In other words, without women, all men would be no better or different than violent inmates in a prison; that women are necessary to channel men’s aggression and competitiveness to good uses. It’s just more of the “woman good, man bad” feminist dogma.
I’ve heard this more than once and it irritates men every time I do. It’s the same insult that permeates society and the entertainment media; that men are incompetent children and unless mommy disciplines them, they will cause nothing but trouble. Speaking for myself… devotion to and respect for God has more to do with me disciplining myself than a women’s influence will ever have. I really resent women trying to take credit for all the good that men do and have done.
I’ve heard this more than once and it irritates men every time I do. It’s the same insult that permeates society and the entertainment media; that men are incompetent children and unless mommy disciplines them, they will cause nothing but trouble.
Actually boys raised with single moms are more likely to be violent than two parent household. Also women are acting like men and being more aggressive. Women aren’t women anymore, that’s the main complain from men. Also too many men got screwed by women, so men have experienced or watched friends getting cleaned out financially.
When women ask where have all the good men have gone they mean where are the men that can spoil me financially. This means a guy needs to make a lot of money or he won’t be qualified in dating her. More and more women are making more money than men so the number of men that can afford these women will be ever smaller than now.
My suggestion is ignore feminism, it’s causes too much stress and negative energy.
http://davidsortino.blogs.pressdemocrat.com/10129/absentee-fathers-and-juvenile-violence/
"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle
I’m sure a lot of guys have heard the expression that women like to use, “One day, you’ll find a woman to make an honest man out of you”. What men need to realise is, that masculinity has nothing to do with womankind. They have no idea what makes a man and have no say in what a man should or should not be.
I’ve always been intrigued by how many “primitive” tribes initiate young males into the tribe, often referred to as a Rite of Passage.
Here are a couple of examples.
In the small country of Papau New Guinea…[the] rite of passage into manhood…begins at age seven with the separation of the boy from the mother. The boy will spend the rest of his young life only in the presence of men in an all male hut. The gender separation is taken to such extremes that boys and women use different walking paths around the village.
After being separated from the women, the young boy is subjected to several brutal hazing rituals. The first involves ceremonial bloodletting from the nose. The procedure is crude, but effective. The boy is held against a tree and stiff, sharp grasses and sticks are shoved up his nose until the blood starts flowing freely. Once the elders see blood, they let out a collective war cry. After the bloodletting, the boys undergo severe beatings and lashings. The purpose is to toughen up the boys and to prepare them to live as warriors.
Deep in the heart of the Brazilian Amazon lives the Satere-Mawe tribe. To become a man in the Satere-Mawe, a boy must stick his hand in a glove woven with bullet ants and withstand their stings for over 10 minutes without making a noise.
According to the Schmidt Sting Index, the bullet ant has the most painful sting in the ant world. It’s described as “waves of throbbing, all consuming pain” that continues for over 24 hours. In fact, the locals call the ant, hormiga venticuatro because the pain from the sting lasts 24 hours…The copious amounts of venom the boy receives during the ordeal will temporarily paralyze his arm and leave him shaking uncontrollably for days.
This isn’t a one-time deal, either. A young boy may have to stick his hand in the bullet ant glove several more times before he’s considered a man. Each time he experiences the ordeal, the object is to remain as quiet as possible. It’s a test of manly endurance and stoicism that’s necessary to be effective warriors for the tribe.
The interesting parts here, is that young boys are separated from their mothers and the women of the tribe and learn everything they need to know from the men of the tribe to find their purpose in life. They experience painful and terrifying ordeals that mark the stage of coming of age that is required for a man. In this age, there are very limited ways of bringing a boy into manhood. I never had any ritual or rite of passage ceremony like many other men. Women, are born women, and their needs become unattainable and unlimited with no idea what their purpose in this life is. They don’t even have this concept of purpose except for the purpose of their own personal happiness.
I believe there is a hardwired, genetic impulse in all men to protect everyone weaker than themselves. This extends to their own and others’ children and all women. I also believe that the only thing a woman has the desire to protect is her own children. This is what made us successful as a species where we are now top of the food chain.
The difference in the western culture is the lack of boys’ initiations into manhood, with many boys growing up without a father with so many single mothers and fathers losing the right to parent their children in a legal system favoured towards women. The second difference, is that women now devalue mens’ worth and often expect a man to provide for them without offering anything in return. It plays solely into their selfish desires for their own happiness and convenience in a developed, safe world that man made for them.
So going back the quote, “I’ll make an honest man out of you someday” is insulting, arrogant and ignorant in the extreme. A woman can give birth to a boy, but she’ll never be able to make a man out of him no matter how good her intentions are. She has no concept of the purpose and responsibility of man. I still like to hope there are western women that can appreciate and accept mankind for what it is and represents but they are few and far between. How many women today are striving to be the best partner to a man that she can be?
This is part of the problem I believe and something that I found fascinating after my recent red pill overdose.
Raising a daughter in the western culture – Dr. Laura Markham (Notice it’s a female doctor writing this crap)
Tiptoe around your teenage daughter (treat her like an adult) – Wikihow on being a good parent for a teenage daughter (Notice the lack of a father in the images)
Thumbs up @murve
One day, you’ll find a woman to make an honest man out of you
Oh yeah? Who’s gonna make an honest woman out of you? Bitch. These women who have it in their heads they can “change a man” are the same bitches who hate & resent him when she succeeds. Like a woman even knows what “honest” means.
Imagine there is an iron-clad list of social actions that defines masculinity……
To a great extent, women are the architects of such a list. Biologically, we could physically take ownership of a woman’s reproductive system and use it as nothing more than a means of continuing the species. Socially, we recognize that we are not merely animals and that we act more upon intelligence and spirituality than we do on instinct.
Most of the rules for how a man ought to behave have been socially engineered by women, obeyed by men, and then taught to our young. Because of our complex brains, men have decided (rightly so) that it is improper to take a women by force, despite our insatiable want of it. Women have taken this dichotomy and used it to their benefit, creating a society in which women are respected and allowed to govern their own bodies. I have no problem with this.
Until recently, I think men have allowed women the freedom to act as equals because we respect them for their role in society, and we love to have sex with them. The modern age of the feminist movement is filled to the brim with women who understand that men will always be more powerful than them, and this is the source of their new found vitriol.
They are still using this one tired tactic, toying with a man’s lust. Slut walks? Are you serious! There will be a breaking point. A point when men realize that women have taken it too far, robbed us of what MEN think masculinity is, and we will take it back.
Lust for comfort suffocates the soul
it is improper to take a women by force
Ok it’s improper. But you will have a hard time convincing women of that. Because they absolutely LOVE it.
So don’t be too quick to care how women “socially engineer” things. What they will TELL you they respond to (and what is “attractive”) is the photo negative of what they ACTUALLY respond to (and find attractive). This is probably why women haven’t engineered things like ships and airships… because if men actually listened to them, they would never get off the ground.
It sounds like a joke, but it really isn’t.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Ok it’s improper. But you will have a hard time convincing women of that. Because they absolutely LOVE it.
I was talking about callous, cold-hearted rape. I’m aware that women have powerful fantasies of being taken by force, but fantasies are never supposed to be realized. Once a fantasy is realized, it removes the power of the fantasy and all that is left is resentment. A fantasy, by design, can never be lived up to. Fantasies are enigmas that keep us sane and provide us a sort of mental masturbation. Women certainly get off on the fantasy of being raped, but when they are actually raped it always proves traumatizing.
There is a powerful scene in the movie “Wild at Heart” where the character Bobby Peru forces a woman to consent to her own rape. When she finally does, he tosses her aside and rejects her. This act of psychological rape is one of the most disturbing things I’ve ever seen. It is “Bobby Peru pays a visit” on Youtube, but I won’t link to it here because it might be NSFW.
Lust for comfort suffocates the soul
They are still using this one tired tactic, toying with a man’s lust. Slut walks? Are you serious! There will be a breaking point. A point when men realize that women have taken it too far, robbed us of what MEN think masculinity is, and we will take it back.
It’s already happening and feminists are flocking to tumblr and pretending trey are not feminists anymore. They are getting a sniff of what’s coming and it’s making them nervous.
Proof women’s rape fantasies are real. According to the article it’s quite normal for a woman to have at least one rape fantasy. Which boggles my mind.
"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle
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