Women love lying to themselves or just completely delusional.

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4 Immediate Pros And Inevitable Cons Of Dating An Asshole

Check the video out for a laugh. Basically, the complete opposite. Can’t make this s~~~ up.

[shaunozParticipant 512]

The short answer is – both.
The longer answer is this, their concepts of honesty and truth and lying is DIFFERENT to what men mean by those words. They can “promise” to do something, and then decide not to do it and not feel that they broke their word at all… The fact is men and women simply view promises and honesty and truth differently. When you start to see things as “man commitment” or “woman commitment” or “man truth” ( which can also be called “truth” ).. etc… These things become more obvious. YMMV 🙂

[ForeverDoneParticipant 2928]

Very true. Even though, the men’s idea of truth and honesty matches with the Webster’s dictionary. The female’s version of truth and honesty matches with… Well, nothing.

[shaunozParticipant 512]

Even though, the men’s idea of truth and honesty matches with the Webster’s dictionary. The female’s version of truth and honesty matches with… Well, nothing.

YES !! I agree.. 😉 That’s what I wrote…

“man truth” ( which can also be called “truth” )

[shaunozParticipant 512]

really — MGTOW has has explained and made clear many things to me. It seems so obvious after the red pill is fully digested. Seriously they are all insane. In the last few days, I had a woman ( mid 20’s) who I met for the first time only a few days before as a friend of friend, she literally paused her blowjob on me to complain about the fact that she thought her husband was cheating on her…. just think about that for one second. The insanity and hypocracy of the situation would have blown my mind 10 years ago. But I just said “yeah, some people cannot be trusted.. Why would he do that? you are very skillful :)” and thought “women just view these things differently”. Note – she really did not think she was doing something equivalent to her husband, because her and I are not in a relationship and other than the BJ, no real feelings are involved..

[markParticipant 451]

Like in the Matrix, I think very few of us here were born free. Therefore, I am willing to bet most of us have been at the bitter end of the “bad-boy / nice-jerk” equation.

To me, the math of it all is astounding and it applies to literally all women.

Before the wall = Will take the bad boy in a heartbeat.
In front of the wall = Will marry the nice jerk and, if possible, get her holes filled up by the bad boy.
After the wall = Will divorce the jerk and hope to get back to the bad boys, who by now have moved on to younger deals.

And even today I am guilty at times of being nice, and every time I get screwed. I absolutely have to maintain my bad boy attitude or I don´t get laid. It is that simple.

In a hundred years I could not believe I would actually have to be an a-hole on purpose. It saddens me that women have brought and trained the evil I am now (with them).

[TheWolfSheepFearSpectator 459]

I agree. Especially about the being nice guy thing. I am by nature a nice guy. I treat my friends well. I look out for my loved ones and I help others when I can. But your right, every time I try to be nice to a woman it backfires. I’ve had to train myself to just not give a f~~~ what these crazy whores think and wouldn’t you know. I get all types of attention when I behave like that. It’s insane.

Please God smite the wicked now

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22514]

They lie because they have to.

They lie to get themselves out of trouble. They blame everyone else for their problems. Anything that goes wrong in their life is externally caused. The rationalization hamster goes into overdrive to find something to blame whatever they don’t like, whatever is bugging them, onto anything or anyone that isn’t them.

They lie in order so they don’t feel bad, or get a true picture of the person they really are. Anything that erodes their self image, they cannot handle. It must be the fault of someone/something else. ANd they go to extreme lengths to find someone or something to blame it on, so that it’s not on them, and therefore they do not have to feel bad about themselves anymore. Why? We know with women that their current feelings always trump facts and reality. Feelings are the most important things women base their decisions and perceptions of themselves and others, upon.

You ever get an “I don’t know…..” as an answer to why they did some idiotic thing, that answer is code for “I just felt like doing it and didn’t care about the consequences”. Feelings matter more than anything else. But these things they do are not rational or justifiable and so they have to find a way to not FEEL bad about doing them. So they blame shift via lies and rationalization.

They lie so often they start believing their own lies. Extremely dangerous. Of course many know they are still lying, it’s just an act. Many though convince themselves their lies are true. You can actually screw your mind up and do this. False memories do happen. It is always amazing for women who stick with their fake stories even when there is video or audio evidence and witnesses that totally contradict their stories, and they STILL stick with their lies.

All the womens advocates talk about how important it is for a woman to be believed. They lie all the damn time. I can see how the women say this, it’s important that the woman’s LIES be believed. They believe them, they need to have you believe them. It’s insane.

In a nutshell, your topic headline – lying and delusion are not mutually exclusive, and in many cases are right there working together.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[MonkParticipant 16988]

As Shaunoz says, their minds run on completely different rails.

Reality is whatever the say it is at the time. For a woman, reality is like desert sand, ever shifting.

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shaunoz wrote:

really — MGTOW has has explained and made clear many things to me. It seems so obvious after the red pill is fully digested. Seriously they are all insane. In the last few days, I had a woman ( mid 20’s) who I met for the first time only a few days before as a friend of friend, she literally paused her blowjob on me to complain about the fact that she thought her husband was cheating on her…. just think about that for one second. The insanity and hypocracy of the situation would have blown my mind 10 years ago. But I just said “yeah, some people cannot be trusted.. Why would he do that? you are very skillful :)” and thought “women just view these things differently”. Note – she really did not think she was doing something equivalent to her husband, because her and I are not in a relationship and other than the BJ, no real feelings are involved..

True, but you shouldn’t be contributing to her affair. Imagine if you were her husband. How would you feel?

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mark wrote:

Like in the Matrix, I think very few of us here were born free. Therefore, I am willing to bet most of us have been at the bitter end of the “bad-boy / nice-jerk” equation.

To me, the math of it all is astounding and it applies to literally all women.

Before the wall = Will take the bad boy in a heartbeat.
In front of the wall = Will marry the nice jerk and, if possible, get her holes filled up by the bad boy.
After the wall = Will divorce the jerk and hope to get back to the bad boys, who by now have moved on to younger deals.

And even today I am guilty at times of being nice, and every time I get screwed. I absolutely have to maintain my bad boy attitude or I don´t get laid. It is that simple.

In a hundred years I could not believe I would actually have to be an a-hole on purpose. It saddens me that women have brought and trained the evil I am now (with them).

Yea, I’ve been told I am such a nice guy and good guy, but I’ve not done anything to warrant that. She said, because I called to check on her when she was sick. I said, it’s common decency. So, I guess, being a decent human being is now considered a nice or good guy? So weird.

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TheWolfSheepFear wrote:

I agree. Especially about the being nice guy thing. I am by nature a nice guy. I treat my friends well. I look out for my loved ones and I help others when I can. But your right, every time I try to be nice to a woman it backfires. I’ve had to train myself to just not give a f~~~ what these crazy whores think and wouldn’t you know. I get all types of attention when I behave like that. It’s insane.

Agreed. One one FCD, I did a test… I treated her like a rag doll and just used her for sex. It was quite fun. She’s sleep over, I was in the mood for sex, woke her up, she was down. Cleaning the dishes, pulled down her pants, she was soaking wet and down. Everything was fine.

Then, treated her with some respect, and the sex stopped and she became a royal pain in the ass. Dropped her a week later.

Makes absolutely no sense. It seems they really want to be treated like s~~~ and cum dumpsters. As soon as you treat them like a human, the s~~~ hits the wall.

[RemovedParticipant 4676]

It is as simple as women are like children. They need a man that can give them boundaries, and enforce them. Women also want a man that they see would able to defend them. A nice man appears weak, because he is giving and surrenders to all of her wants. A bad boy puts her in her place. If he loves her and does this, how much more fierceness would he display if someone he doesn’t like comes along. Women are very animalistic, and they succumb to their natural way of being far easier than a man does, because we are constantly punished for being natural to our sexual needs and desires, and even our natural way of being is constantly attacked, such as “man spreading.”

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