Women Looking In The Wrong Places

[EGParticipant 1853]

Anonymous wrote:

If a boy was educated to take care of himself, he would grow up self-sufficient and independent. And women would not like that, would they?

Ie.: “latchkey kids”, a hallmark of Generation X. Perhaps it’s more than coincidental that MGTOW is growing as a lifestyle even if not by name.

[CPT ObviousParticipant 2730]

Branched off wrote:

They are still acting with their default hypergamy setting and they still want top 20% if they can get it or a good fat wallet.

No. If they have(or had) any SMV they are looking for top 5% and better. That is what I find absurd. The brief period between ex-1 and ex-2 I dated briefly, and listening to comments from other women, I realized this.

I am in top 20% but these single mother, post-wall, cawk carousel women are wanting a man with salary/lifestyle in the 2% range (around $250k/year). They would ask straight up in initial convo how much I made.

With ex-2, based on her spending, I calculated I needed to make at least $180k a year (and she was making good money as a nurse, but that was “her” money — my money went into joint account which she treated like a slush fund.)

Ex-girlfriend told me “she had never been so poor” and everyone she knew made “$250-300k a year.”

Their perceived price tag of the “golden” vagina is astronomically over-priced. They own a Yugo with 220,000 miles between their legs, but price it like a brand new Land Rover.

"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."

[Anonymous 3]

EG wrote:

Manfred wrote:

If a boy was educated to take care of himself, he would grow up self-sufficient and independent. And women would not like that, would they?

Ie.: “latchkey kids”, a hallmark of Generation X. Perhaps it’s more than coincidental that MGTOW is growing as a lifestyle even if not by name.

When I speak of independent and self-sufficient young men, I am not talking of abandoned kids, fending for themselves. I am talking of what always existed in families where everybody contributes in household chores.

In the old days boys did not learned to make food or clean, that was what girls learned. Boys would learn to do a man’s job like their father.

Thus they would always need a woman in their life…

Now, in our “equalitarian society”, men and women do the household work, but always the woman’s way. Kids do not learn to do these chores, mostly because women want to “protect” them. Saying it otherwise, they create a “mommy dependence”.
Unfortunately for them, mommy does less in every generation. Thus doing what mommy does is becoming increasingly easy.

[CPT ObviousParticipant 2730]

Mr. Spock wrote:

there are plenty of average, middle aged men available for her to date but she isn’t seeing those either. She is looking for a top tier guy to date. A guy with all the sixes and just ready for her to swoop in and cause problems.

^^^^^ THIS.

Ironically, women pricing themselves out of the dating market are doing men a favor by saving them a lot of heartache, drama, and money.

"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."

[GrumpyParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

In the old days boys did not learned to make food or clean, that was what girls learned.

That is a categorically incorrect statement/opinion.

How far back would you like to look back as the “old days” for evidence?
10 years?
30 years?
50 years
100 or 1000 years.
2 or 25 millennia?

Which aspect of “male society” shall we use as reference point?
In each and every aspect of human history men and boys learned to care for themselves and others. If we didn’t we would have starved to death, froze to death, and had a lot more massive die offs of humans.
Boys have always had to prove themselves to their societies as self sufficient. Hence the “rites of passage into manhood” that involved survival. All a women had to do for their “rite of passage into womanhood” was to have her period. Not ever to prove her ability to survive on her own and provide for the family and tribe.

Hunting parties, raiding parties, exploration parties, anything and everything away from the “tribal home” was completed by men/boys on their own. They cleaned, cooked, and cared for themselves. The was no frikkin molly maid following them.
Throughout almost ALL of human history (except for the last 100 years or so) Men guided boys into manhood. Not women.

In just my personal experience in 54 years of life. Not a single solitary positive or original skill or piece of knowledge I have gained was imparted by a woman. However to give credit where credit is actually due, some teachings and “support” from women allowed me to “finesse” some of my skills and knowledge.
My uncles taught me to cook, my mother and grandmother “fleshed that out”
My uncles and other men taught me the reasons and benefits for cleanliness, the women just beat me for not doing it their way until I was strong enough and big enough to fight back.
Men taught me to hunt, fish, clean my kills, prepare them as food, how to make shelters, navigate and survive alone.
Men taught me how to stitch myself and others up, how to set bones, how to care for the sick, wounded, and the weak.
Men taught me of the reasons and merits of valour, honour, integrity, respect, humility, reliability to self and others, accountability, and loyalty.

Those men/boys/males that do not know how to cook/clean/maintain/care for themselves were “raised” by women only, and never took the initiative to ask a MAN to impart his wisdom. (this is actually an unfair statement, and should read as raised by women who didn’t know how to do it herself)

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[GrumpyParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Thus they would always need a woman in their life…

Now, in our “equalitarian society”, men and women do the household work, but always the woman’s way. Kids do not learn to do these chores, mostly because women want to “protect” them. Saying it otherwise, they create a “mommy dependence”.
Unfortunately for them, mommy does less in every generation. Thus doing what mommy does is becoming increasingly easy.

Apologies Manfred, you should have led with this 🙂
Absolutely correct because this creates a false dependency of men for women.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[Anonymous 3]

Grumpy wrote:

Manfred wrote:

In the old days boys did not learned to make food or clean, that was what girls learned.

That is a categorically incorrect statement/opinion.
How far back would you like to look back as the “old days” for evidence?10 years?30 years?50 years100 or 1000 years.2 or 25 millennia?

Sorry Grumpy, but my country was held in a kind of “sociological ice age”, frozen one century behind all other western countries. And where I live, there was even greater adherence to “old-fashioned” values. Now almost we are equal to everywhere else in the west, but we still have old folks with the old mentality.

So, I have recollection of a time when women would wash clothes by hand, there was no running water, and a fire was permanently lit in my grandmother’s house. My grandfather would leave before dawn to work in the fields, and would return home late, to have supper and seat a the table listening to women gossip before going to bed. He had an hard life, and there was no way that he would go home to cook, clean or do laundry. That is what my grandmother was there for.

Could he do those things if need be? Maybe he could, but it was not the way things where done. They had very strict ideas of what a man was, what he should and could do. It would be humiliating for him to do a woman’s work.

Yes, I am talking of things of maybe 100 years ago in other places, but less than half of that for me.

But dont confuse what I am saying with “good old times”. They where difficult times and most people did not have a choice on the lives they would have. My grandfather once told me, in tears, that he wanted to be a teacher but his father decided otherwise. He could not do anything but obey. And my grandmother was a very difficult person. AWALT!

It was always a raw deal for men.

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

Anonymous wrote:

It was always a raw deal for men.

The single greatest truth of all time.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

These women are not looking for a nice guy.
Rather, they are looking for a chad with money who will grovel and kiss her feet.
The guys she is looking for have long gone. The guys she is looking for have probably already been divorce-raped and don’t want another expensive trist.

These women might be useful in 20 minute increments. But long term? Sorry sweetie.

These women usually don’t provide much and they are full of drama.

I suspect these women will find men to abuse, but not the chads they are looking for.

[Max PowerParticipant 2721]

If I lived to be a million years old, I would still never have another relationship with any woman.

I genuinely would prefer to live in the muck with a bunch of random street hogs in Calcutta.

[RASmanParticipant 1994]

Fortunately as men age the old testosterone plummets. Combine that with the sex appeal of a post-wall hippo and the red pill is easy to swallow. Spend your time on things YOU like and your money on thick steaks and expensive whiskey.

[CPT ObviousParticipant 2730]

RASman wrote:

Fortunately as men age the old testosterone plummets. Combine that with the sex appeal of a post-wall hippo and the red pill is easy to swallow. Spend your time on things YOU like and your money on thick steaks and expensive whiskey.

Amen brother. I literally just got back from store and picked up a big, fat ribeye to grill and a bottle of Glenlevit 12.

"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."

[Daryll55Participant 2950]

Awakened wrote:

When a man marries a Woman that decides that she doesn’t want to cook, clean, laundry, raise kids, LISTEN TO HER HUSBAND, PROVIDE REGULAR SEX, and instead decides to do everything to be a Daily Bitch then it leaves Many Men asking themselves, “THIS USELESS Parasitic Leech is just destroying MY LIFE without adding ANYTHING TO IT; WHY the hell do I want to keep this “thing” around for???”

JUST LAST NIGHT, I speaking to a youngm an at work who has recently been married. He was all kinds of happy pre-marriage; telling me of the “GOod times” he has been having with his new wife. I was happy for him,but didnt’ understand WHY he got married. They both have good jobs that couldb e considered careers, so no family is on the horizon any time soon. His wife is a classy woman (no Jerry Springer THOT material), and they have known each other since college. I told him to beware, but he was wearing those “sex” blinders that women put on men like trainers put on a horse.
NOW,…. less than 2yrs later; he is MISERABLE. This happy-go-lucky guy never smiles and hates EVERYTHING! He sports a mini-potbelly from eating out all the time, and told mehe does his own laundry because she is tied up at work. I can’t get over the personality change,……. if he had only listened !

Marry again, Hell NO ! ( Even JESUS was hung on a cross just once)

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

Daryll55 wrote:

if he had only listened !

Hopefully, once this one is gone he won’t be looking for a replacement model thinking that one will be “different”…..

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Max Power wrote:

If I lived to be a million years old, I would still never have another relationship with any woman.

Women just can’t fathom that being single isn’t a horrible thing because its better than being involved with them.

Its kind of like if my plans for next Friday consist of staying home, hanging out with the dog, watching some Netflix, and eating a pizza and someone says “Hey…its Friday night, want to go out and do something?” I’d say yes if their offer was more entertaining than dog, pizza, and Netflix. If their offer was to meet them outside by the dumpster where a few guys are waiting to beat me with baseball bats and rob me, I’d say no thanks, staying in is better. That may seem like an extreme example, but really most women are psychologically abusive with all the s~~~ testing and head games they play, and they will end up costing you money, so whats the difference?

[RealityBitesParticipant 2198]

How to be invisible to women:
1.) Dress like a bum
2.) Drive a very old beat up (but well maintained car)…one of the best things to do…is to buy a really old beater…and put a new modern engine and transmission and suspension in it…and do nothing to the body….
3.) AVOID places like the Gym where women congregate looking for men….instead get some racks, benches, and free weights and work out at home…
4.) AVOID cruise ships….
5.) AVOID Night Clubs….
6.) AVOID any Churches or places of worship…like a Synagogue…
7.) AVOID talking to any woman at work…if a woman says something…avoid eye contact and keep moving….pretend she’s a ghost….
8.) AVOID any Hair Salon with Women…go to a Barber where the Barber is a guy….
9.) NEVER hold the door open…when in a public place…for a woman…
10.) In your off time…stay home and read or watch TV…if going out…do solitary things…like riding a motorcycle…or fishing…etc…..
11.) Grow a FULL BEARD! Most Women HATE Beards!….
12.) If a Woman corners you and asks what you do for a living: tell her you got laid off from your job at McDonalds….

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