Women just seem pointless in life.

[PatrickXParticipant 217]

So going off of this: http://theobserverwatches.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-four-levels-of-mgtow-betas-shrug.html

Basically, level 1 MGTOW for me is to avoid marriage and children. Level 2 MGTOW is where a man avoids dating and being friends with women.

I consider myself a Level 1 MGTOW because, I’m still biologically interested in women, and I try to fight it, but am challenged. When I see a pretty girl, naturally, I get attracted to her. Sometimes to me, women are only good for looking at. (As for others, women are only good for f~~~ing). But as I read the book “The way of the Superior Man” by David Deida, I learned that I enjoy some feminine things like looking at a woman smile, listening to a beautiful song, nice sunny days, relaxing music, etc. I’m naturally attracted to feminine nature as most men are.

I have tried online dating, and have just found it pointless. Most women are single moms which I’m not looking for, and most other women act entitled. Going to theredpill, I was told you have to “game, pass s~~~ tests, neg, flirt, etc.”, which from someone who has aspergers and only see things from a logical perspective, I find this really hard to do. So, while I am one year from being 30 years old, I still live as a level one MGTOW only enjoying short term relationships, (like Aaron Clarey) but as I go grow older, I am probably going to consider MGTOW level 2, avoid all personal relationships with women. Doing this, I will never have to worry about false rape/harassment charges by trying to make advances and f~~~ing them up. I would never have to worry about coming off creepy to a woman. (A problem that most men with aspergers have), and just enjoy the decline of the human population.

To do this and be happy about it, I need to train myself to go against my biology of being attracted to a woman. I heard of “Monk Mode” and whatnot. If I could transcend to being asexual and feel free from all the feelings I have about women, love, etc. I could be free. I just need the guidance to do it.

[Anonymous 54]

It sounds like you’ve already figured it out Patric. I think most Men want to have some experience with women. Just be careful. One needs to get these things out of there system.

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

Your lucky if you break even. Women depreciate in value through time. You would think they would change their behavior.

What frauds they are.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[Anonymous 16]

LVL 2 here, and going strong.

[Anonymous 18]

Regarding you liking watching a woman smile, or just looking at her – mgtow imperative is learning about female incentives, and tricks they use.

Just marvelling at a woman do her hypergamous dance is going to lead you nowhere.

When you come across an attractive women and feel indifferent – that is mgtow.

The levels are a moot point. Having a knowledge you don’t utilize to avoid s~~~ is akin to never possessing that knowledge in the first place.

[hmskl’dParticipant 6405]

Now this is only me, but I don’t know what level I am, probably 4 .. when I get up each day, I think about tasks and jobs for the day. When I do have free time, I have to get caught up with errands and sometimes I find time to go fishing or hiking. I don’t even find myself thinking about relationships or dating or significant others at all. I suppose it possibly crosses my subconscious/conscious as I go shopping or if I see a gal here and there .. but for the most part it doesn’t ever from dawn to dusk. A couple of decades ago I had a crush or two but those times are gone and I now realize that everything I’ve worked for and managed to scrape and claw to save and whatever .. are fair game for the fairer sex if I ever change paths. I’m just too satisfied with this quieter existence to risk all that. This weekend I hope to do some fly fishing; would I like some gal along with me?.. maybe a super model in waders? Honestly, truthfully and sincerely, no. I’m not just saying that to sound like I’ve found the answer. I’m saying it because it’s the truth. I know deep down in my being that she might be humourous to be with for an hour as she snags me with her fly and line .. but really, she’s awalt as they all are and there is nothing ahead for me (even with the theroetical supermodel fishing date) that would not lead to eventual financial pain, emotional turmoil and likely gnashing of teeth.

signed: gone fishing 🙂

[$$$Crenshaw1118Participant 516]

Damn it Patrick!!! Am I so glad to have read your post. I’m 43 y/o and I have never heard of aspergers. So I googled it, man was I surprised. That googled searched described me to a tee. For decades I’ve been thinking that I surver from depression. I have major problems with communication skills and just really fell that I just don’t belong. I’m one of them stubborn ass motherf~~~ers that don’t go to doctors. I haven’t seen a doctor since I was probably 9 so I have never really been professionally diagnosed with anything. I just know that there is definitely something going on inside that head. I’ve blamed it on my women, which I grant you they did play a great role with my head problems. But, I thank you for bringing up aspergers in your conversation. Now I can do some research on it. I know technically I should are a doctor but ironically I don’t really trust them a whole lot. I just know that it’s my own personal mission to fix my head problems so I can lead a half way normal second half of my life. Thanks again brother.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

I kinda rebuke the levels idea. Having categories seems counter productive to going your own way.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

$$$Crenshaw1118 wrote:

Damn it Patrick!!! Am I so glad to have read your post. I’m 43 y/o and I have never heard of aspergers. So I googled it, man was I surprised. That googled searched described me to a tee. For decades I’ve been thinking that I surver from depression. I have major problems with communication skills and just really fell that I just don’t belong. I’m one of them stubborn ass motherf~~~ers that don’t go to doctors. I haven’t seen a doctor since I was probably 9 so I have never really been professionally diagnosed with anything. I just know that there is definitely something going on inside that head. I’ve blamed it on my women, which I grant you they did play a great role with my head problems. But, I thank you for bringing up aspergers in your conversation. Now I can do some research on it. I know technically I should are a doctor but ironically I don’t really trust them a whole lot. I just know that it’s my own personal mission to fix my head problems so I can lead a half way normal second half of my life. Thanks again brother.

Don’t get sucked in to being deficient. God made you perfect.

Your imperfections will make you strong in other ways.

My short dick, for instance, means that I have to sprint for 10 yards to get penatration, and at that speed, my marksmanship has become exquisite.

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[NotMyProblemParticipant 965]

Sex is great. So is spaghetti…

You have to ask yourself, what is spaghetti worth to me?

Would you start yourself on fire for spaghetti?

Is spaghetti worth $2 million over the course of your life?

Is a plate of spaghetti even worth wasting 3 hours of your time?

Not my property... Not my problem

[KeymasterKeymaster]

PatrickX wrote:

To do this and be happy about it, I need to train myself to go against my biology of being attracted to a woman. I heard of “Monk Mode” and whatnot. If I could transcend to being asexual and feel free from all the feelings I have about women, love, etc. I could be free. I just need the guidance to do it.

No you don’t.

Because you can’t reform biology – no matter how much “guidance” you get. But you CAN educate and equip yourself to know and identify when you are under the haze or orgasm….. and/or you find yourself acting, speaking & behaving like like pussy-begging wuss-bag living for female acceptance, approval and scraps of affection.

Can you train a salmon to not swim? And why would you want to?

Have a “sex if it’s free” / no girlfriend (or wife) policy and that’s all you need. You can even say that to a woman’s face!

“Sex OK but NO you will NEVER get a key to my place”.

Now THAT’S ACTUALLY SOMETHING YOU CAN CONTROL and you can even say “no” to that if she gives you any scary vibe. Even more importantly, women always think they can “change” you, and change your mind, but since you were upfront and direct with her, you have the perfect out any time you want.

Remember that very little will happen with women if you don’t pursue it.

So you don’t actually need too kill the desire.
You just need to not pursue them like some all important goal.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

PatrickX wrote:

, I learned that I enjoy some feminine things like looking at a woman smile, listening to a beautiful song, nice sunny days, relaxing music, etc. I’m naturally attracted to feminine nature as most men are.

Biology can be a bitch. You’re wired to respond to things. Nature wants you to make babies for it. After the f~~~ing biology says you’re on your own motherf~~~er, good luck. We all know how good the pussy looks before the ejacualtion, and we only think “wtf did I do” immediately afterwards. That’s where MGTOW comes in, you have consider these thing before your biology gets the best of you. The stakes are higher than they have ever been. Having a forum like this, with like minded ppl, is best way get that into your head.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[PatrickXParticipant 217]

FrostByte wrote:

PatrickX wrote:

, I learned that I enjoy some feminine things like looking at a woman smile, listening to a beautiful song, nice sunny days, relaxing music, etc. I’m naturally attracted to feminine nature as most men are.

Biology can be a bitch. You’re wired to respond to things. Nature wants you to make babies for it. After the f~~~ing biology says you’re on your own motherf~~~er, good luck. We all know how good the pussy looks before the ejacualtion, and we only think “wtf did I do” immediately afterwards. That’s where MGTOW comes in, you have consider these thing before your biology gets the best of you. The stakes are higher than they have ever been. Having a forum like this, with like minded ppl, is best way get that into your head.

Keymaster wrote:

PatrickX wrote:

To do this and be happy about it, I need to train myself to go against my biology of being attracted to a woman. I heard of “Monk Mode” and whatnot. If I could transcend to being asexual and feel free from all the feelings I have about women, love, etc. I could be free. I just need the guidance to do it.

No you don’t.

Because you can’t reform biology – no matter how much “guidance” you get. But you CAN educate and equip yourself to know and identify when you are under the haze or orgasm….. and/or you find yourself acting, speaking & behaving like like pussy-begging wuss-bag living for female acceptance, approval and scraps of affection.

Can you train a salmon to not swim? And why would you want to?

Have a “sex if it’s free” / no girlfriend (or wife) policy and that’s all you need. You can even say that to a woman’s face!

“Sex OK but NO you will NEVER get a key to my place”.

Now THAT’S ACTUALLY SOMETHING YOU CAN CONTROL and you can even say “no” to that if she gives you any scary vibe. Even more importantly, women always think they can “change” you, and change your mind, but since you were upfront and direct with her, you have the perfect out any time you want.

Remember that very little will happen with women if you don’t pursue it.

So you don’t actually need too kill the desire.
You just need to not pursue them like some all important goal.

So, with that said, let’s hypothetically say more men just say “f~~~ you” to their biology. By what you guys are saying they have to ignore their biology and just have nothing to do with women but serve them as customers in retail jobs and work with them as co-workers. Let’s hypothetically say the population of Level 2 and higher MGTOW increases around the world, (which is 3.5 billion men going MGTOW rejecting 3.5 billion women completely). Japan as a country has this. 40% of men and women in Japan are virgins, and now studies show that millenials are having less sex. http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-millennials-less-sex-20160802-snap-story.html Lets, say this number gets bigger and bigger as feminism grows over time. The population will decrease over time which is good because I believe this world is overpopulated and we live in a system that doesn’t serve everybody equally, so it needs to depopulate then when there is few enough people, hopefully what’s left of the human population can work together and build a system that everyone can prosper from (i.e. The Venus Project, The Zeitgeist Movement Resource Based Economy, Type 1 civilization maybe?), and humans can understand each other over time and maybe repopulate to keep the human race going; hopefully women will understand nature better and enjoy being with men. Probably wouldn’t see this happen for at least 100 or more years, but it’s the best idea I can think of.

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