Women In the Military/Combat Roles

[Scooba5teveParticipant 18]

Decided to start a discussion here since i haven’t found one and(almost) started this discussion on someone’s introduction, excuse how awful my typing and sentence structure is; i just woke up and haven’t had my caffeine or nicotine yet.

As an active duty InfantryMAN(one of the few remaining jobs in the army that hasn’t been given to whiny women, but is soon inevitably to happen) i cannot even begin to tell you how awful daily life is like between a man and a woman; first off; with there being roughly 9x as many women as men, every ugly c~~~ that comes in a 4 immediately becomes a 10 and has her ego skyrocket because of the amount of horny (predominantly) 18-24 year old guys. That was normal and was perfectly acceptable when i came in, they turn into massive sluts and blah blah blah.

The real problem in the military nowadays is the amount of political correctness and social experimentation; just because women complain about it, they want to be allowed into my goddamn infantry; and they’re slowly whittling down politicians for it to happen. I’m personally looking forward to it (as long as its not downrange in an actual combat zone). The Idea of giving a 110-120lb woman the 175 lbs worth of gear i would lug miles up the mountains of Afghanistan is pretty f~~~ing hilarious; because i can guarantee she wont make it a kilometer.

Which brings me to my next point; the physical standards for women are a f~~~ing travesty; a women can score a 300(max points) on a PT test, and be praised, while a man can have her same scores(or better) and completely FAIL the PT test and be treated like s~~~. Is he not in better shape than her even though the points are different?

And Some more fun tidbits of information; the amount of money spent putting them into “real” combat roles like the Infantry. By army regulation women are required to have access to a full shower every THREE days. they would have had a real tough time in the 50m wide patrol base in Afghanistan i was in for THREE months with burning our own s~~~ and pee and not even enough water for any of us to shave.

The amount of time we spend on Sexual Harassment classes is nauseating; eg; we dedicate an ENTIRE workday every quarter to stopping what we’re doing and learning about sexual harassment/PC that’s “not just about women”, watch videos on women being raped in the military and generally get told how bad we are as people by some female that sucked dick to get to the top.

Another problem i have is the amount of power a women “feels” like she has once given rank;all of a sudden she is the baddest bitch to walk the face of the planet curious to see how much this applies into the civilian sector (if you guys want to contribute), but i have the utmost sympathy for the poor souls who’s first line supervisor is a woman; someone who doesn’t use logic for anything; and can make you do literally anything if upset; from Pushups to sprints(physical excercise until she deems it necessary for you to stop), they can take your weekends(placing you on a 24 hour duty from 0900 saturday to 0900 Sunday), they can make recommendations to higher ups(which they would be stupid not to take for fear of then being “unfair” to women) for you to lose rank and/or work “extra duty” from 0530 in the morning until 2300 at night, essentially destroying any and all of your free time.

My biggest problem before i sound like im whining too much; is that women are using the FEAR of other men to punish other men; they may not be holding a gun to someone’s head, but they know full well that they can RUIN the entire career of any man in the army with a simple false rape/sexual harassment claim. It f~~~ing disgusts me and it’s ruining our countries’ army.

[BigDParticipant 3024]

What I love about the whole thing is AFN keeps pushing the “Don’t rape” infomercials.  I wonder how many guys are sitting there in the chow hall (DFAC) and see the infomercial and say to themselves, “Wow, I’m so glad I watched that.  I know now not to hold the girl down later and force myself inside her.”

With that said, I wonder how many of these rape cases are the “ladies” realizing they did something without the outcome they expected.  So, they just screamed rape.  That’s how it went down in the 90s.  I’m pretty sure this is what is going on now.

I had one rule when I was in.  I broke that rule only twice, but learned not to do it again.  Never, ever sleep with any girl that wears any kind of uniform.  There is something deeply wrong with them mentally.  Considering they just give away scholarships to anyone with a vagina that can spell their name, why the hell would they join the military?  F~~~ that.  Do no stick your c~~~ in a woman that was so stupid they had to join the military.

Military is a great stepping stone for men.  They pay you to learn a trade and give you money to continue your education.  The only downfall is that for every woman that joins there is more work to be done by the men in order to cover for the women.  Just do your time and get out.  Reap the benefits of not being a dirtbag.  That’s what I did.

Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.

[mgtow_85Participant 752]

I have written books with narrations on women in the military. One book takes place in a futuristic Civil War with the USA split in three sides and bitter fighting on all fronts.

One main character is a woman who is a 4-star general and her husband is a regiment commander, and later a G-3(Operations officer)on her staff.

One character is an 18-year old girl serving as a sniper/scout in an Army Recon unit, and she falls in love with her platoon leader. They end up getting married and serving in combat alongside each other.

One character is a 26-year old woman who is an Army platoon sergeant, her husband is a Marine officer, and in one campaign when all the officers and higher-noncoms are dead or wounded on the first day, she temporarily serves as battalion commander for the shattered remnants of 6 companies of troops, and only 400 surviving men still combat-effective.

But this book is classified as sci-fi/military/fantasy. Why?

Because all these women in my book deeply love, respect, and appreciate their husbands, while they’re willing to go into combat and serve alongside men as equals without demanding favoritism just because they have breasts.

Makes for a hell of a read!!!

 

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

First, thanks for your service guys. Since I’ve never served in the military, I’m probably not even qualified to comment. I have heard stories about successful female snipers in the Russian army during the 40s when they were invaded by the Germans. Russia may have had women who were up to that challenge at that time. Perhaps somewhere in the US there are women like that who could, in the face of a real invasion, might step up and do something useful. But I agree with you both that what we have here and now is a game of ‘pretend’ being played in order to try to placate some whiney female voice somewhere demanding to be treated as ‘equal’. In the event of even the prospect of real combat, I see women stepping up and putting themselves at risk about as often as they are currently stepping up to work in coal mines, oil fields, construction sites…etc which is never.

I don’t imagine their lack of willingness to put themselves at risk in order to get a civilian necessity accomplished is going to change in the face of a need to get a military need accomplished that has even greater risks associated with it. When I was younger and thought it might do any good, I was often engaged in some heated arguments with feminist women about equality. I would invariably get from them the question about, “When are we going to have a woman president?”.

When I would finally get tired of the shrieking, I would end a majority of those arguments by asking the question, “If we really are all equal, when am I going to see a memorial wall with the names of 58,000 dead women on it?”.

This is one of the only things I’ve ever found that would shut a woman up.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[mgtow_85Participant 752]

How many graves are currently at the War Cemetery in Arlington?

And how many of those are actually WOMAN soldiers?

How many of the 400,000+ who died in World War Two wearing a U.S. military uniform were women?

Yup. Women are a long way from proving just how equal they are to men. Most of them wouldn’t dare to take the same risks as men. They claim they want to be equal to men, but they just want the rewards of equality instead of taking the risks to get those rewards.

[RennieParticipant]

mgtow_85 wrote:

How many graves are currently at the War Cemetery in Arlington? And how many of those are actually WOMAN soldiers? How many of the 400,000+ who died in World War Two wearing a U.S. military uniform were women? Yup. Women are a long way from proving just how equal they are to men. Most of them wouldn’t dare to take the same risks as men. They claim they want to be equal to men, but they just want the rewards of equality instead of taking the risks to get those rewards.

Yeah that always bothered me how they make out like they made some equal contribution to the war(“ie x is dedicated to all the men and women who died in WW2) but in reality they weren’t the ones dying by the thousands on the front lines and are therefore taking credit for something they really didn’t do.

[OliParticipant 33]

If the OP is still around, I got a friend who lives in the same city as you. He keeps saying that the the mortars are driving him crazy!

Anyway, I agree that the standards should be the same for this particular field. Females and males are physically different, it’s a no brainer. Instead of having two entirely separate physical standards, why not use one that can accommodate females and males? Oh wait, it’s because women always need an edge over males. Idk how bad the gap is in the military when it comes to PT tests but it was pretty horrible in high school from what I remember.

I have the same issue with female cops and firefighters. Around here, female police officers cannot patrol with another woman for their own safety (lol) and most female fighters cannot carry an adult on their back for an extensive period of time. There was this video in the news a few weeks ago about female firefighters in training. In one part of that video they had to climb a 30m tower with another student on their back. The two female students collapsed by the time they were halfway to the top. They weren’t wearing the full gear either since they only had the coat/pants/boots/oxygen tank. After getting their breath back, they got back to work, which is great! But only in a training scenario… It can only be more exhausting when you are wearing the entire gear in a burning building
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=122_1424647844

I can’t make embed videos for some reason…

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

Keep women out of the military and re-instate the don’t ask policy for gays (or just outright ban them). Men going into combat zones should be set up for the greatest probability of success, failing to do so is not only negligent but outright f~~~ing evil. War is not a f~~~ing joke and any man who puts himself in harms way with the possibility of becoming a casualty or cripple should not have to worry about anything other than the objective and the lives of his brothers in arms.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[mgtow_85Participant 752]

Rennie wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mgtow_85 wrote:</div>
How many graves are currently at the War Cemetery in Arlington? And how many of those are actually WOMAN soldiers? How many of the 400,000+ who died in World War Two wearing a U.S. military uniform were women? Yup. Women are a long way from proving just how equal they are to men. Most of them wouldn’t dare to take the same risks as men. They claim they want to be equal to men, but they just want the rewards of equality instead of taking the risks to get those rewards.

Yeah that always bothered me how they make out like they made some equal contribution to the war(“ie x is dedicated to all the men and women who died in WW2) but in reality they weren’t the ones dying by the thousands on the front lines and are therefore taking credit for something they really didn’t do.

Don’t get me wrong, I appreciate women for stepping up and deciding to help build the planes, Liberty ships, parachutes, ammo, etc. while most of the men went to the front. They had a big contribution to our war effort and they got the hell out of the kitchen, and a lot of them even became nurses to treat military casualties.

But in no way is it even part to an EQUAL contribution.

Women were being paid by the hour at a pretty good salary to do all this s~~~. At one point, they were bringing home like 160.00 to 250.00 a week, which is some major bucks by our 2015 dollars. Privates in the military were being shot at and dying in droves for only 54.00 a month, no matter how many hours or days they had in combat. They didn’t just shoot at each other for 8-10 hours a day and then go out for a night on the town to relax. Lieutenants got maybe 200.00 a month, but even that salary pales when they were having to lead men into combat, and hey, you know what the statistics were for how long the average LT lasted in a combat unit? Yep. They had that going for them. And all of them were going for weeks in the same uniform without opportunities to shave, rest, unwind for a little bit, clean up. Women worked for a few hours, launched a Liberty ship, and then went to the local nightclub for drinks and giggling gossip and(even the married women)trying to flirt and score with the local military men that were lucky to get an evening furlough.

Women had it pretty good in WW2 America. They were f~~~ing put on a pedestal and spared the horrors of war while most women in Europe weren’t that lucky. In Poland, civilian women were joining the Polish Home Army and fought the Nazis on their own home streets while Warsaw smoked and burned around them, dying by the thousands, and many from other countries were losing everything as they fled from their homes to escape the Russians and endured cruel hardships. While all that happened, women in the USA were putting on cute little patriotic dresses and dancing and singing to, “Don’t sit under the apple tree…with anyone else but me…with anyone else but me…” as a morale booster for the war effort. Yup. Women were treated SO badly in America, right? They screamed for equal rights, but they didn’t want the equality of being able to die at Normandy, Anzio, Bastogne, Monte Cassino, Iwo Jima, Okinawa, and Guadalcanal.

[peterfaParticipant 833]

I think the discipline would do them well. They’ll learn what it’s like to be at war. They’ll see the horrors of war, and maybe they’ll gain a new appreciation for life. They’ll also learn about survival and how easy civilization makes it. Death has a way of sobering people up.

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