Women Hitting the Wall Much Younger?

[RennieParticipant]

Governor Megachris% wrote:

When I was in high school, I thought high school chicks were scorching attractive. Then I got into college. Felt the same when I was about 18 about high school and college chicks, then after that, it went all downhill. It’s hard for me to find women in my age range attractive at all. They all look older than my mother, and are about twice as wide as I am. I’m certainly not saying “I need them,” not at all…but I am saying it’s a shame there’s not much to look at anymore when it comes to chicks in their 20s/my age range. Aren’t the 20s supposed to be their “hot” phase?

Many of the girls were super hot in high school, but within 3-5 years of that, at the very least the youthful luster had vanished on most of them and some of them looked downright awful and run down. I fail to see the appeal of those beyond 20, since all they had to offer was their looks.

It frustrates me because I didn’t expect the wheels to fall off so soon, I thought after high school they would of had atleast another 10 years of being attractive, but it has not been shown to be the case.

I remember one girl who was quite attractive in high school and involved in athletic swimming, but before it was even over she was toasted. She got fat, run down looking, major neurological problems(seizures).

I long for the days when the girls my age were beautiful and in their prime.

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

That’s how I feel as well!  It seems like they want to sleep with many men (and they don’t want to be “slut shamed” for it), but doing so is wearing them down a lot younger, physically and mentally.  It’s like a car driven many times by many different people.  Some may use it more than they need to, some may mistreat it, but regardless, it’s used!  Kind of a poor analogy, but you get the point.  The wear and tear on women ends up aging them much quicker, I suppose…meanwhile, men are left glowing.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Governor Megachris% wrote:

That’s how I feel as well! It seems like they want to sleep with many men (and they don’t want to be “slut shamed” for it), but doing so is wearing them down a lot younger, physically and mentally. It’s like a car driven many times by many different people. Some may use it more than they need to, some may mistreat it, but regardless, it’s used! Kind of a poor analogy, but you get the point. The wear and tear on women ends up aging them much quicker, I suppose…meanwhile, men are left glowing.

No…its really a great analogy.  One of my ex’s had a decent ride on the c~~~ carousel prior to me and came packaged with a nice chunk of student debt.  Pretty much the exact rationalization in my mind after the initial thrill of the steady sex and random blowjobs subsided was that sticking with her and ultimately being responsible for her debts was like paying full price for a used car that had already seen almost a decade of abuse at that point.  Had we met at 18 before she had a dozen c~~~s in her and 70k in debt, it might have been a little different, but meeting in our late 20s I simply felt like I was paying for a brand new corvette and getting a beat up camry.

[VictorParticipant 124]

I take no issue with the observations so far, but I would tentatively dispute the premise of the thread.

In my opinion, there is no ‘Wall’ as such.  I can only comment anecdotally, and this is heavily subjective subject-matter anyway, but it seems to me that in the vast majority of cases, – to be brutally honest about it – women are plain to begin with.  What makes them ‘good-looking’ or ‘pretty’ (or however you want to phrase it) is their ability to apply make-up.  Take away the make-up, and even a young woman is usually nothing special.

That’s not to be disrespectful towards women generally.  My point is that prettiness is, primarily, a social construct and really just a delusion.  The main thing is attraction, and that is a different matter altogether and more of an alchemy.  I recall that almost-all my romantic crushes have involved women with fairly average looks, and one or two were very average indeed.  In fact, looking back I am baffled at my obsessive infatuation with most of them.  In the physical sense, they were nothing special at the time, and certainly nothing special now – all women, without exception, age badly.  It’s Nature’s way of saying to men: “Don’t copulate with this woman, she’s too old to produce healthy children.”  Like red frogs, it’s a warning sign.  Primevally cruel, but necessary.

As has been pointed out by others here, the key thing for both women and men is to find one partner who is ‘good enough’, who will accept you and who you can be reasonably happy with.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

Girls have an extremely finite time frame in which their sexual appeal: blossoms, peaks, and bursts. I would say from 16-25 (give or take). It is during those ages they exhibit what men find attractive: SLINKY, FLEXIBLE, and the very youth filled looks which could be the ONLY justification for her CHILD like emotional behavior. It is precisely those youthful looks which enable men to put up with such an immature attitude and behavior. Just like an adorable child who acts irrationally, you still feel sorry for them. Pat them on the head. Give them a hug, and kiss them good night.

 

I smoke. I drink. Im a f~~~ing guy. These behaviors might “age” me more, but who gives a f~~~? My attractiveness isnt gauged by my flawless porcelin skin. Its gauged by my experiences in the world, and my attitude towards it. Established. Experienced. Possessing an independent will-power, that doesnt conform. THESE are the qualities that are attractive in a man. Women are the polar opposite: they are a F~~~ING nightmare to deal with on ANY level, other than them being on their back, spread out on your bed. Even THEN they assume a passive role, and you must be the one in action. The ONLY benefit they have to offer, which attempts to assuage you of their s~~~ty, bitchy behavior, is the lust of their youth. Like a flower losing its petals, so is the aging woman. Men “aging” is a different story. I dont think women are aging faster in todays environment. I think were f~~~ing noticing it because we cant possess a harem of international women (as sex toys) like king Solomon.

Resident cynic.

[Anonymous 11]

I’d believe it. Between the land whale epidemic and the fact some of them start c~~~ carouseling at 12, after 10 or 15 years of self-inflicted abuse that Wall is just ready and waiting.

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

That’s what I’m saying.  The math makes perfect sense.  For the women that would start riding the carousel around 16-18, the wall might hit them in their early 30s or so.  For those that start REALLY young (more frequently now), it would make sense that they’d start hitting the same wall in their mid-20s.  Now that I’m 27, thank goodness I found MGTOW and have started caring less what women think and I’ve not cared about whether I have one or not.  The sad thing is just that there isn’t as much “eye candy” out there anymore to at least enjoy looking at and merely admiring…at least not in my age range.

[RennieParticipant]

Governor Megachris% wrote:

That’s how I feel as well! It seems like they want to sleep with many men (and they don’t want to be “slut shamed” for it), but doing so is wearing them down a lot younger, physically and mentally. It’s like a car driven many times by many different people. Some may use it more than they need to, some may mistreat it, but regardless, it’s used! Kind of a poor analogy, but you get the point. The wear and tear on women ends up aging them much quicker, I suppose…meanwhile, men are left glowing.

I was thinking last night, the system expects us to take the goods…but only after they’ve become expired and or worn out. That’s not a good deal at all.

 

Ancientwisdom wrote:

Girls have an extremely finite time frame in which their sexual appeal: blossoms, peaks, and bursts. I would say from 16-25 (give or take). It is during those ages they exhibit what men find attractive: SLINKY, FLEXIBLE, and the very youth filled looks which could be the ONLY justification for her CHILD like emotional behavior. It is precisely those youthful looks which enable men to put up with such an immature attitude and behavior. .

They don’t last and when that’s gone, whats left to like?

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Rennie wrote:

I was thinking last night, the system expects us to take the goods…but only after they’ve become expired and or worn out. That’s not a good deal at all.

Its even worse when they come bundled with debt…you get to pay a premium price for expired goods.  At least back 50 years ago when people married in their early 20s, men tended to marry a woman that didn’t come with debt, and didn’t come with 10+ years on the carousel.  I actually thought for most of my life I wanted to get married…but my last girlfriend really got me thinking about that…she told me I was guy number 12 and that she came with 70k worth of debt…wtf is the point of marrying that…11 guys before me had her pussy when it was less used than when I got it, and they didn’t get stuck with her debt, why should I?

[dasboot89Participant 22]

I’m not sure if they are hitting the wall younger than they have in the past, because I have only lived one life so far.

I’m 26.  And I have noticed how much women age during their 20s.  It actually makes me somewhat sad and depressed.  I never talked to many women but I would look at various facebooks and myspaces of girls.  I check out those same girls today, and it depresses me how much they have changed.  It’s astounding, to be honest.  Those girls that I used to adore, those girls who I thought were so cute and innocent…..I am not attracted to them at all in their early to mid twenties.  It’s f~~~ing sad, but that’s life and it will only go downhill from here.  Imagine what I’ll be writing about online in 5-10 years.  It’s sickening to think about.

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

That’s kind of what I mean, actually.  They were so attractive 10 years ago (heck, I still think their looks back then are still attractive today), but now that  they’re in their 20s, they’ve lost their fantastic looks.  Sad, really.

[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5106]

Going to my 25th class reunion was the most epic schadenfreude I have ever had.  So many women I knew, who wouldn’t give me the time of day back then, said things like “you look great!”.  Out of the 20 or so that said it, maybe 2 were worthy of saying it back to.  Having to say “so do you”, is the most lying I had done to women since college!  Women who would have friendzoned me in 15 minutes back then, were flirting with me like I was prime meat.  25 years completely tilts the table in our direction.

Sovereignty above all else.

[dasboot89Participant 22]

Yes, but it’s still an opposites thing.  When we liked them, they didn’t like us.  And when they like us, we don’t like them.  It’s hard to win with circumstances like that.

[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5106]

That is why I paid no mind when they flirted.  No need to pick up any divorcees.

Sovereignty above all else.

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