Women from other cultures…much different?

[Math RoninParticipant 86]

Crim posted an interesting story earlier today in which he started out :

“I am beginning to think that this is the MoD of all women, specifically American women”  (italics mine)

and it got me to wondering, is there much difference in female behavior across different cultures? I have certain stereotypes of female nature in mind (i.e. Asian & Arabic =submissive, Greek and Spanish = aggressive and assertive ) but is there a big difference in the quality with which they treat men?

What made me wonder this is I tend to think of the two factors that empower bad female behavior (feminism and commercialism) as being very American in nature, although I also know that female nature has some deep-seated biological roots. Maybe it’s a spectrum of behavior we can rank from not too bad to very bad?

Interested in the perspectives and observations of other fellow MGTOW travelers

[SteveParticipant 462]

Asian women submissive?!! Oh mate that’s too funny.

They’re just as bad if not even more sneaky and treacherous.

Women are women the world over, just different tricks and cons depending on what their culture teaches.

[slardy mcbardfastParticipant 118]

I have to agree with Progenitor. Women the world over are fundamentally hypergamous and gynocentric(selfish). The women from the countries you mentioned, Math Ronin, are more affordable (and generally not as fat as western land whales). That is the only significant difference. In general an Asian woman will willingly trade up at the first chance she gets.(middle eastern I presume to be the same). If you get involved with one, keep an escape plan ready

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

Old army buddy of mine married a Korean gal.

He earns the money.  She has put him on an allowance.

There is no respect, no love, no appreciation, and no sex in his relationship.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[FermatParticipant 3478]

I am Nigerian, and have experience with Nigerian women. They are like Asians and pretend to be submissive but will 180 on you in the end. Cultures that boast traditional values fool themselves because they deny biological imperatives in women. Example: Nigerian women want to be very successful, and the culture wants them to be successful in their fields. However they still want women to submit to their husbands. This is absolute nonsense: a highly successful women will feel entitled to the mate of her choice, and once she settles and has a baby with them man, she will still be in charge. Hashtage Briffault’s Law. Highly successful women will never submit or truly respect their husbands for the sake of traditionalism. They will only feign such actions to get what they want. Don’t listen to Africans boast about traditionalism. Very few actually go by this. Feminism is simply a consequence of a much deeper female imperative and that core imperative will never change wherever you go. This is not negativity. This is fact. Avoid the nonsense.

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[Anonymous 12]

I have heard that Eastern European women are more feminine and traditional like other non Western countries as well.

I have to agree with what has already been said, women in these places just know how to put up a good front that will suck men in right up until the point they get married and have kids and then you will probably find they are even worse than Western women.

Overall I would prefer a woman who is honest about who she is even if what she is, is a hypocritical materialistic feminist than one who is pretending to be a wannabe housewife and mother. At least if you are awake you can pump and dump the hypocritical feminist, the ones pretending to be more traditional might convince you to lower your guard.

 

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[Math RoninParticipant 86]

Steve wrote:

Asian women submissive?!! Oh mate that’s too funny. They’re just as bad if not even more sneaky and treacherous. Women are women the world over, just different tricks and cons depending on what their culture teaches.

My one up close experience with a Chinese woman is spot on with what you are saying. One of my former bosses was Chinese and I had the opportunity to spend a lot of time with her family.  I never saw a more two-face person or bigger ball buster in my life. Her husband was a very intelligent, laid back PhD and loving father and she basically would call him worthless to his face and get her children to look down on him.

[RoyDalParticipant]

In ancient times, when samurai ruled Japan, the women kept the keys to the Lord’s treasury. He earned it. The women spent it. It is ever thus.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[HashParticipant 21]

I’ll tell you what I see here in Croatia. There’s no real rampant feminism around here :D. My assumption is that it’s pretty much because we were part of closed off socialist Yugoslavia until 1991 and had 4 years of war so the ground for it wasn’t fertile until recently. The main difference I see is that girls here aren’t as skilled in being “strong and independent” men exploiters as western women are, and I think it’s due to the lack of access to tools and examples and that they’re more reluctant to act that way since there’s still a culture of shaming of such s~~~ behaviour. Also, the economic situation is s~~~ so women have to work and our laws are sensible so women don’t get even close to special treatment western women get.

I actually think that there’s a strong sense of equality among the sexes with a rational respect of biological differences as no sex seems to stand out as more privileged. There’s still the general crazy all women have though, but as I said there’s little fertile ground for it to grow.

[avillaxParticipant 280]

They are very similar but in some countries there are advantages, for instance in Czech Republic women are not self-entitled and are polite, in Ukraine, Belarus, Slovakia, as well and they are very feminine and submissive. Part of the charm is that they can’t sue you, they can’t accuse you of false rape, if you divorce them just in some cases you pay alimony for a few years and it is very low and rarely awarded, so in other words, they have less tools to use you.

I can’t stand American women, here in CR you see the contrast immediately, most of the American girls are fat and dressed like s~~~. The other day I saw one hot looking American chick which is a rarity and still just right on the standards of looks here and she asked for an IPA beer to take away at the beer shop and she did so like a man, with this powerful “I know what I want” sort of attitude, in other words, just like a man. Your bitches are disgusting, eeew.

And I’m not alone, any men here in Europe, be it French, Czech, whatever, they have absolutely no interest in American women, they’re just inferior quality and mentally f~~~ed up.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

They all have the lowest common denominator. But some have been brought up well and mastered overriding it.
But nobody is safe from true colors shining through one day. It’s just for western broads – this day is everyday, and for others – it comes to light when s~~~ hits the fan

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[HashParticipant 21]

I never tried out a girl from US but I tried a Canadian girl once. From Mississauga. It was a year ago and I’ve had my fair share of experience with women so I was sure I know what to expect and that I can handle it. Still, the amount of self-centeredness made me go WTF in the end. I wasn’t used to that much of it. It didn’t shock me though and I had no problem cutting her off or anything (which surprised me in a good way a little bit TBH). She used me and I knew it, but I also used her in some ways so no problem there.

The relationship basically ended the moment I had some trouble in life and foolishly shared it with her, showing weakness and asking her for support. She distanced herself and was cold for about a week or two (no sex at all) so I ended it right then. She did not expect it so it got her in sort of a frenzy. This is where I regret what I did next. I saw how it all messed her up so I got soft and sort of apologetic which left her with an impression of a victory. Doesn’t really matter for me but it’s still something I shouldn’t have done since I could imagine her right then rationalising the whole thing and putting all blame on me.

I like local girls a lot more since they actually can and know how to play the female supportive role.

[Math RoninParticipant 86]

Hash wrote:

…The relationship basically ended the moment I had some trouble in life and foolishly shared it with her, showing weakness and asking her for support. She distanced herself and was cold for about a week or two (no sex at all) so I ended it right then. … 

Apropos your experience, I always heard women say “”You don’t share your feelings with me and communicate“….and then when I did, they basically emasculated me.  “Asking for support” shouldn’t be a considered sign of weakness and moreover women should know that men don’t come to them over little s~~~. We don’t freak out when a spider comes into the room or cry when a friend comments on our clothing or we gain a pound or two.  And they begrudge us even this (when we put up with all their crazy neurotic moods) and then say they want to be our best friend when they don’t even support us?

I used to think there was something wrong with me, that I was not trying hard enough or not doing something right.

God, they must get such a kick out of that routine

[HashParticipant 21]

Yup. What messed me up was that I’m a loner by nature so I don’t go around making friends and that there’s this culture among young men (at least here) where we just don’t share anything intimate with each other and don’t even touch each other because all that could imply you’re gay or something. So what you end up with is keeping all the crap inside and when it’s too much you get desperate and actually go seek a woman to help you with it (hell, it’s supposed to be their field of specialty, right?). Many will then see you as a weakling which just f~~~s you up even more and some will cater to your despair for a little while because they saw the opportunity of exploiting you. Either way you’re f~~~ed and other young men around you are f~~~ed as well just because we act tough all the time and are too scared to open up to form a true male friendship. You can’t expect a woman to understand you.

I hope you get what I mean.

[Math RoninParticipant 86]

Hash wrote:

 I hope you get what I mean.

I understand both what you mean and how you feel. Even though I grew up in an blue collar neighborhood in Pittsburgh that was like what you described, like you, I still tried to connect with women.  Men from my father’s generation, knew better. When my dad was diagnosed as having cancer, my mom (who came to the appointment late and heard the diagnosis from the doctor) went to catch up to my dad who had left in his car. My mom saw him pull over to the side of the road and cry (which none of us ever saw, he was like a total rock). My mom kept driving and got home before him. When he came home she said “How was your day?” and my dad smiled back and said “great”. I could never figure out why my dad was like that, but now I think I know.

Anyhow, I hope here on MGTOW, you’ll feel like you’re among a bunch of guys that you can share some stuff with.

[Terminus EstParticipant 145]

HUGE difference between American women and European ones (note: this does NOT include Brits).  I have lived in Germany and can tell you with all certainty that while women will be women the world over, practically all the ones I dated in Germany or even German girls here blow American women out of the water in terms of faithfulness, willingness to work on things, support, etc.

They have a certain fidelity and female wholesomeness entirely missing in American women. Far more approachable, easy to deal with and do not have that bizarre chip on their shoulders about everything, despite having good looks. They also enjoy their role as a woman more because they haven’t had their brains turned into jelly by our hardcore version of “eternal 15 year old” feminism. French women are feminine in a way that makes you realize just how common American ones appear.

I think for the most part, European women have entirely different sets of expectations from men than here. Far less entitled and bitchy. They are far more accepting and satisfied with what and who men are, which makes them happier in the relationship and that in turn makes you happier.

Bonus: they are meticulously tidy and can cook amazing food. And I don’t mean what Americans throw together out of a box and some hamburger but fantastic dishes that make you wonder how you’ve ever lived without roulladen (google it). Best of all, they don’t consider that some kind of travesty against the sisterhood to do these things but enjoy it immensely.

As with all women: handle with extreme caution and have proper firefighting skills and equipment handy.

Stay away from Asians, they are as or more calculating than Americans.

[JasonParticipant 282]

@Terminus_est: Alas, not all of Europe. Here in Sweden, hardly any (born and raised) woman under the age of 35 can cook anything more complicated than instant noodles. Any “traditional” female skill that doesn’t have to do with their own physical appearance they have ZERO ability in. And they don’t compensate by learning traditional male skills either; they simply don’t possess any practical skills whatsoever. Almost as if they stopped growing at age fifteen… Exceptions exist, of course, but not many. Now, I have seen a (slowly) growing trend among some young women who do try to learn traditional female skills and act more traditionally feminine…however, they basically get bullied by their more feminist peers for “submitting to the patriarchy” and other such nonsense.

The typical woman aged 20-35 in this country works in a job where they can, for the most part, rely on their outer appearance or simple tasks that don’t require any skills or education to perform, or those that require knowledge of superficial subjects such as fashion. Typical examples: sales clerks, telemarketers, cashiers, hairdressers, waitresses, unlicensed assistive personnel (personal assistants, etc), social workers and sociologists (horribly unskilled ones), occasionally more demanding stuff such as secretaries or nurses. The ones that do more “skilled” work such as lawyers, doctors and the like generally have horrible attitudes and do their work ridiculously poorly (with some exceptions; the exceptions generally have a very low opinion of their fellow females, and for good reason).

All in all, the overwhelming majority of women in Sweden have very poor skills in practice, if not always on paper. I mean, I can’t even begin to count the number of “professional” women I’ve met with less knowledge and skill at their jobs than I have – without even having undergone any formal education in them!

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[RebaneParticipant 215]

I live in Northeastern Europe, on the border of western and eastern culture. Yes, the women are very beautiful and more feminine compared to America, BUT don’t be fooled. Our society is still more traditional and women are expected to contribute to the household. Little girls are taught that they wouldn’t find a man unless they can cook and clean. Males are expected to provide, protect and keep things entertaining. So better be wealthy, fit and work work work while giving your darling enough attention.

I would say a lot of women here come with at least one of the following traits: loyalty issues, obvious hypergamy, shaming tactics, false rape accusations, false domestic violence accusations, tricking into pregnancy, estrogen network, mental and emotional instability.

But at first glance they do seem so nice indeed.

Edit: divorce rates in Estonia has been over 50% for past 10 years.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

do you know any jokes about estonian females? I want to hear

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