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Dr. Sable 3 years, 8 months ago.
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Sidecar, your views on Trump has restored my faith in the political wisdom and common sense of members of this forum. He is nothing but a con man and reality star who prospers on the stupidity of the public.
He inherited his fortune from his father and bankrupted 4 casinos putting thousands of workers out of jobs. He ripped off several others with his phony Trump University and is under investigation by the New York Attorney General for fraud.And yet for all that he is STILL a better choice than Sanders or Clinton.
Not to mention that he would kill the families of terrorists, including women and children.
Because terrorists have such consideration for the families, women and children included, of other people…
You know, I said a whole lot more than the snippets that are being responded to.
And there’s a lot more to an iceberg than just the tip, but it’s still all the same ice.
Cool deflection, but the fact that people went after my offhand socialism comment shows otherwise.
Voting is actually…. giving consent to be governed.
“Trump is our last hope” and “socialism is where we should be headed” are virtually ass backwards values of a Man Going His Own Way. You’re queuing up to follow the leader.
This is exactly why I don’t vote. Voting is a waste of time. Especially if you’re a MGTOW. Society doesn’t give a f~~~ about me or most men, so I certainly see no reason to give a f~~~ about it. When people like Lorena Bobbit are able to go free after cutting a man’s dick off, it’s time to stop giving a f~~~ about society.
This is what I’ve been saying all along…pathetic men are ruining s~~~ for the rest of us. You may not be actively towards a utopia, but given the option I’m sure you’d accept one.
Nope. Given the option, I just want to be on my own. Society can die or thrive and I’d be doing my own thing either way. I don’t give a f~~~. And I certainly wouldn’t give a f~~~ about society if it were a utopia either.
I’m a natural hermit by nature and I usually keep to myself unless I’m around other like minded men. Such as other MGTOW.
Well, that’s pretty sad, and also not completely thought out. For one, if you had the choice to turn the world into a paradise where everyone was happy with no suffering, and you didn’t, then that says a lot about you. Second, if society goes under, do you really think you’ll be protected? You are part of society to some degree whether you like it or not.
Socialism is where we should be heading,
Trump is our last hope.
Unbef~~~inglievable.
This guy is all over the map with the self contradictions. I can’t figure out if he’s (?) a troll, a woman, really really young (and parroting the wrong teachers), really bad at English (is this a google translation I’m reading?), or just really really stupid throwing out buzzwords he doesn’t understand.
I think it’s either a combination or a result of stupidity, poor communication or Autism. None of those are necessarily mutually inclusive.
Of course it could be a woman too I suppose. Youth probably does play a part, sounds like this individual has never actually worked or been out in the real world, and has only just been in academia, racking up student loan debt. Of course that is something that points to it being a woman, since women do that type of thing and then try to brag about their liberal arts degrees. That will make them sound very immature, albeit their physical age would be to the point it shouldn’t be happening. Their mental maturity and lack of life experience however retards their development.
I guess it can be a lot of things. None of it good.
There are some decent ideas in there, but this individual does not know how to develop them, does not understand how to properly convey a message, does not understand how to logically order and present their points.
If it’s not a woman, and if this person is not Autistic, probably in 10 years, with maybe some good work and life experience, they’d be able to come back and communicate. But at that point, if they truly did become intelligent, they probably wouldn’t want to write 80% of what they’ve written either. Also I sort of doubt MGTOW.COM will be around at that point.
Yikes, are YOU a woman? I’m honestly starting to think so.
None of your responses have dealt with the subject matter I bring up. Instead you just repeatedly ad hominem me in an attempt to discredit me. You mentioned shifting in one of your other posts, and here you are doing just that. Your latest post again starts with personal attacks, but then you shift. You say “oh he has some good ideas, but he just can’t communicate properly.” Oh please. The truth is you feel threatened, either by my ideas, my intelligence, or both. Or you are trolling, but doing so in a boring manner.
If you are being honest in your posts, then you are the epitome of what I find so distasteful in people these days.
Well, that’s pretty sad, and also not completely thought out. For one, if you had the choice to turn the world into a paradise where everyone was happy with no suffering, and you didn’t, then that says a lot about you. Second, if society goes under, do you really think you’ll be protected? You are part of society to some degree whether you like it or not.
Ha. What’s sad is that you actually think everyone everywhere could be happy. Happiness is so subjective. You can’t please everyone.
And if society goes under, I’m cool with that.
All I need to survive is a knife and I’m all set. I know how to hunt, kill, skin, and butcher wild animals. I know how clean chicken and other fowl. I know how to fish. I know how to start campfires by hand without lighters or matches. I know how to build primitive shelters.
So if society ever goes under, I’ll be just fine. I’ll be eating fish that was grilled on a rock while everyone is fighting each other in Whalemarts.
Men age like fine wine. Women age like milk. "One hundred women are not worth a single testicle." -Confucius
Cool deflection, but the fact that people went after my offhand socialism comment shows otherwise.
Funny, then, how it only became “offhand” after you were rightly called out for it.
And it’s not a deflection to point out that everything you’ve said has been full of ignorance, self serving inconsistencies, and outright self contradictions. Do I have to point out every single example? I don’t have time for that, and honestly your posts aren’t worth it.
Well, that’s pretty sad, and also not completely thought out. For one, if you had the choice to turn the world into a paradise where everyone was happy with no suffering, and you didn’t, then that says a lot about you. Second, if society goes under, do you really think you’ll be protected? You are part of society to some degree whether you like it or not.
Ha. What’s sad is that you actually think everyone everywhere could be happy. Happiness is so subjective. You can’t please everyone.
And if society goes under, I’m cool with that.
All I need to survive is a knife and I’m all set. I know how to hunt, kill, skin, and butcher wild animals. I know how clean chicken and other fowl. I know how to fish. I know how to start campfires by hand without lighters or matches. I know how to build natural shelters.
So if society ever goes under, I’ll be just fine. I’ll be eating fish that was grilled on a rock while everyone is fighting each other in Whalemarts.
It’s a hypothetical, I don’t actually believe there could be a world where everyone is happy (not without mass drug intake at least).
Cool deflection, but the fact that people went after my offhand socialism comment shows otherwise.
Funny, then, how it only became “offhand” after you were rightly called out for it.
And it’s not a deflection to point out that everything you’ve said has been full of ignorance, self serving inconsistencies, and outright self contradictions. Do I have to point out every single example? I don’t have time for that, and honestly your posts aren’t worth it.
Ah, the classic “not worth my time to levy a substantial argument” argument. Well, not really an argument, more like another deflection. You took the time to read my posts (or part of them) and respond with attacks on my character, but when it comes to a single real point “I have more important s~~~ to do.”
It is quite literally deflecting to simply insult me and my posts without substance.
And yes, it was an offhand opinion that had no relevance on my posts, other than give you more fuel for personal attacks. I even responded to it, saying I didn’t mean pure socialism, and if you think socialism is the worst thing ever then that’s great for you, there’s plenty of historical evidence to back you up when it comes to real implementation. But if you dig deeper you’ll see that government pretty much fails its people everywhere, regardless of system. Correlation doesn’t imply causation…or to spell it out, I believe it’s not the system, but the human element. You can believe otherwise, and I won’t insult your character for it. Guess that makes me autistic in the eyes of the modern human.
I even responded to it, saying I didn’t mean pure socialism,
Even if you somehow actually meant “impure socialism”, whatever the f~~~ that is, it still make absolutely no sense to follow that up with saying Trump is our only hope. The two are completely incompatible beliefs. Either you are utterly ignorant of what socialism is (and refuse to admit that) or you are utterly ignorant of what Trump stands for (and refuse to to admit that). And when called out for that clear and obvious bulls~~~ / idiocy your only response is to complain that the criticism is invalid because you weren’t also called out for every single other example of your ignorance, internal contradictions, and basic s~~~postery?
Seriously?
Are you for real?
Saying women aren’t responsible for their actions is indicating they are not sentient human beings. However, they are. The ONLY reason they can f~~~ s~~~ up without regard for anything else is because usually, their actions affect someone else negatively, not them, because people LIKE YOU STILL PLACE THE BLAME ON MEN.
So yes, women can be blamed for the state of things. However, it’s 50% blue pill man, and 50% women.
Hmmmm. Your behavior pattern is familiar. You literally sound like a dumb f~~~. Socialism and Donald Trump going hand in hand?
Dumb.
F~~~.
Oh and f~~~ you. You need to work for your own s~~~.
are you a chia pet in man drag I even responded to it, saying I didn’t mean pure socialism,
Even if you somehow actually meant “impure socialism”, whatever the f~~~ that is, it still make absolutely no sense to follow that up with saying Trump is our only hope. The two are completely incompatible beliefs. Either you are utterly ignorant of what socialism is (and refuse to admit that) or you are utterly ignorant of what Trump stands for (and refuse to to admit that). And when called out for that clear and obvious bulls~~~ / idiocy your only response is to complain that the criticism is invalid because you weren’t also called out for every single other example of your ignorance, internal contradictions, and basic s~~~postery?
Seriously?
Are you for real?
lol, so now my arguments are invalidated because I made offhand remarks about liking Trump and socialism, and to you these concepts are so completely incompatible that me liking both means I’m ignorant and contradictory?
1. Being able to hold opposing viewpoints in one’s mind is a sign of intelligence, not ignorance, but that’s not even what’s going on here.
2. You admit to these being beliefs of mine, so essentially, you are invalidating my reality-based arguments because I hold opinions that you do not understand. So much for going my own way. And even if you did understand them, you believe they cannot co-exist, so somehow everything I have said is worthless. And better yet, all of this is based on your belief of what socialism is and what Trump (another person) stands for.
3. What is an impure socialism? Well, we don’t live in a vacuum. Your views on socialism are most likely because of historical events. Pure socialism only exists in concept, in reality, the systems are always “impure.” Our own “capitalist” system contains many socialist policies, some good, some bad. The world isn’t black and white, and the tendency to see it as such keeps your perspective limited.
4. It’s not complicated, I’m a good person that would prefer the government cultivate a well-nourished, well-educated, able-bodied population. It’s the government’s job to take care of its people, and we the people pay it a lot of money to do so. Unfortunately, the thought of taking small fractions of mostly wasted money to help those in need really angers some people.
5. Trump isn’t even really a republican, and he’s certainly more left than Hillary. The fact that I like the ideas of socialism and Trump isn’t strange at all, yet to you it sounds like one of the great mysteries of the universe. Regardless, this topic has nothing to do with socialism or Trump outside of the mentioning of the words.
Does anybody self-reflect anymore?
lol, so now my arguments are invalidated
Your arguments are invalidated by not being valid arguments. That’s what happens when you make self contradictory statements that show an appalling lack of knowledge or perspective.
because I made offhand remarks
No, you only called them “offhand” after getting called out on them. Saying they were “offhand” comments is your way of trying to avoid responsibility for your ridiculous claims.
about liking Trump and socialism, and to you these concepts are so completely incompatible that me liking both means I’m ignorant and contradictory?
Yes. That’s exactly what that means. And not that’s not just me saying it.
Being able to hold opposing viewpoints in one’s mind is a sign of intelligence, not ignorance, but that’s not even what’s going on here.
Um. No. Wrong. Where did you get that self serving idea?
At BEST it’s a sign of extreme cognitive dissonance, and certainly not intelligence.
you are invalidating my reality-based arguments
Are you f~~~ing kidding me? Reality based? Nothing you have said has been based in any sort of reality whatsoever. In another thread you actually try to claim that controlled substances are unregulated, which is patently untrue by definition. The very fact they they are controlled means they are regulated. What the actual f~~~?
And regardless of whatever fantasy world you try to base your, for want of a better word, “arguments”, you’re not even internally consistent. You lump all politicians together as “all the same” and then in the very next statement claim you aren’t lumping anyone together.
And you claim that other people here are the ones who don’t understand things? Really?
Our own “capitalist” system contains many socialist policies, some good, some bad.
Wrong again. The truth is our capitalist economic system is burdened by many politically motivated socialist programs. It could get along just fine without them, but those same socialist programs could not survive without a capitalist economy to parasitize. And they will likely kill their capitalist host eventually.
The world isn’t black and white,
But there is truth and untruth. You clearly don’t know enough to know the difference. And you won’t so long as you keep congratulating yourself on how intelligent you think you are.
I’m a good person
Hardly. At best you’re a well meaning fool. Or as Lenin would call you, a полезные дураки.
that would prefer the government cultivate a well-nourished, well-educated, able-bodied population. It’s the government’s job to take care of its people, and we the people pay it a lot of money to do so.
Nope. Wrong again.
You really don’t understand anything, do you?
It is NOT the government’s job to take care of “it’s” people because the people do not belong to the government.
Let me repeat that:
THE PEOPLE DO NOT BELONG TO THE GOVERNMENT!
Not in any free society at least.
You, yourself, have said that all governments tread upon the people, and yet you want to empower a government so greatly that it can “take care” of the people, and don’t see how that power will only be used to tread on the people even harder.
Are you twelve years old? Is that it?
Unfortunately, the thought of taking small fractions of mostly wasted money to help those in need really angers some people.
Wasted money? Really? Making that argument only demonstrates you really don’t understand what money is, either. Not that I’m in the least surprised.
Trump
You haven’t read any of his books, have you?
I really want to give you the benefit of the doubt here, but I am really close to pushing the button on this one. Can anyone really be this arrogant, ignorant, self contradictory, evasive of accountability, and self congratulatory and yet somehow possess a Y chromosome? Or be older that 12?
Having independent thought is “ass backwards” to MGTOW?
Nobody said such a thing. Don’t be so f~~~ing womanly and twist words.
Suggesting “socialism is where we should be headed” and “Trump is our only hope” are ass backwards statements that c~~~-ra-dicked each other.
So…I can only go my own way as long as that way is approved by a certain group of people? Uh…
Under a socialist regime you are not permitted to have any independent thought at all, and now you have a problem with that. You could ask that guy who didn’t raise his hand to the Nazis, but he was shot for that. So much for independent thought.
What does it matter if women are right or not?
You titled the thread that. It certainly mattered to YOU.
Shall we change it to just “way too many men are pathetic”?Many men are pathetic…regardless of what a woman thinks.
OK so let’s stick to that. Is a man really “pathetic” when he kneels down and offers to love her for life until death? Is he really “pathetic” for wanting to please and appease her?
What’s “PATHETIC” is the women who dump him for being “too nice”.
Now THAT’S pathetic.Are you so intellectually and emotionally compromised that the moment you hear the word “woman” you see red?
Hardly. I would even be willing to throw my junk in her.
Does that make you see red?If it was raining outside and a woman tells you “it’s raining, bring an umbrella” are you going to not bring one because it was a woman informing you?
What a stupid question.
What if I had left out the woman part of the topic title and just said “Way too many men are pathetic,” would I be getting the same pushback?
Goddam right.
A man will never drag his wife to court for being “too nice”.
That is the height of pathetic female complaints. To be “happily married and dreaming of divorce”. To have a problem and go on in an endless array of his “pathetic” shortcomings because her husband of 16 years still gets her ungrateful fat, aging ass with a SMILE in the morning because the c~~~ is “not viable” before 10 AM.
You can’t get any more pathetic than that.
“Way too many men are pathetic” is a c~~~ing statement. Way too many men put up with s~~~ like that in their personal lives and being told they are wrong, pathetic and stupid by people who have no business saying it.
lol, so now my arguments are invalidated because I made offhand remarks about liking Trump and socialism, and to you these concepts are so completely incompatible that me liking both means I’m ignorant and contradictory?
LOL?
How the f~~~ can you like “Trump and socialism”?
Not even Trump would say he likes socialism. That’s how contradictory it is.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Ok, let me try to connect just a few more dots….
You believe socialism is where we should be heading. When called out you say that it is ‘hypothetical’ socialism. However, from the get go you have asserted that most humans are stupid, greedy, power hungry and will s~~~ on each other for any opportunity to get ahead.
So, you are arguing for a hypothetical socialism as being ideal since it will take care of the stupid masses that will rely on a group of intelligent leaders (like you?) that will not abuse their power. So, the evil patriarchy will merely change its political establishment. And if it is rule by populace vote, well, the population is so stupid that they will f~~~ themselves.
Nothing you have asserted since coming here is workable.
Keymaster, I call tuna troll.
Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.
Anonymous42You could ask that guy who didn’t raise his hand to the Nazis, but he was shot for that.
F~~~! I’m DOOMED! I not only didn’t raise my arm in hiel der Femstappo, I raised the other arm with an F-U salute!
Somewhere in a government warehouse there’s a razor sharp guillotine blade with my name on it!F~~~ them! They’ll get nothing! I’ll poison my organs with molybdenum! Then they can transplant my failing organs into several of their cronies! Scorched earth is the best policy when dealing with tyrants!
This H A R D B O I might get himself banned and littered if he isn’t careful.
are you a chia pet in man drag
Anonymous3There is no point arguing with a stupid person, especially on the internet. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Same thing with women. They’re incapable of ever admitting they are wrong on anything or that they just aren’t an authority, in their minds they are always right no matter how badly they are proven wrong. So you will eventually lose because eventually you’ll concede something, and they won’t.
In arguments, only the smarter person can lose, ironically. Stupid people are stupid not because they can’t cleverly argue, but because they are incapable of objectively understanding reality.
For instance, a smart person will see a fire and understand it can cause burns. A stupid person is unable to understand that. They will make up a thousand reasons why fires won’t cause burns, relate specific instances where people have walked on fire and not burned, cite that firefighters constantly wade into fires and don’t get burned, etc.
In their minds they are being logical, and an intelligent person will get trapped and probably eventually concede at least one of those points, like people walking on hot coals or firefighters not being burned. The only real choice a smart person has is to just not bother talking to stupid people, and to keep to themselves.
This is also why women have never lost an argument to a man in history. Despite the fact that left to their own devices, women constantly walk into fires or get killed by dangerous animals that they think are “cute” and “harmless” despite warnings from men. They are just incapable of understanding reality and having basic sense.
Your assessment of the tactic being used here is correct, phoenix. The long responses quibbling about every point are indicative of a person who tries to constantly drag people into an argument or to interact with them to win a power struggle. In essence they are saying IAM RIGHT AND YOU ARE WRONG. I had a supervisor once who was an attorney’s wife who used to try to drag me into those kinds of arguments. She finally gave up when I refused to take the bait after numerous attempt. Other MGTOW members can relate to and report how their exe’s pulled the same crap.
This topic just won’t die.
Nothing you have asserted since coming here is workable.
Keymaster, I call tuna troll.
I agree. Just check his profile pic, an old guy with cats. Sounds familiar?
A man shouldn't make his life's objective to be on the side of the majority, but to avoid finding himself in the ranks of the insane. (Marcus Aurelius)
Menorahman, I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt. But that being said, I don’t understand the point of your post. Yes, blue pill men are pathetic weaklings in a sense. But that doesn’t give women the right to take advantage of them or any other men. Just because you can take advantage of someone doesn’t mean you should.
Just check his profile pic, an old guy with cats. Sounds familiar?
Fyi: that´s an image out of the movie “Logan´s Run” 1976. Peter Ustinov is that guy in the image, he thought to be the only person in the world since early childhood, until some younger people found him with all of his cats. The younger people figure that they´ve been lied to their whole life, as they discover the guy with the cats. A science fiction movie taking place in the 23rd century. The film is worth seiing.
Ah, women. They make the highs higher and the lows more frequent. Friedrich Nietzsche
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