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This is something that has gotten very noticeably worse over the past 10 years, which is when I started learning about Game and actually talking to women. Back then, they at least had some semblance of an ability to carry on a conversation, and talking with them was enjoyable and fun. It didn’t feel like pulling teeth just to get them to contribute to a conversation.
But somewhere along the road, this all changed. Jesus f~~~ing Christ, I swear 95% of the women I meet are clinically retarded and just haven’t seen a doctor yet. Not only are their heads buried so far up their vaginas that they don’t seem to realize a human being is conversing with them, but they are utterly clueless about what is going on in the world around them. They are nearly ALL liberals, they like feminism and socialist presidential candidates, and don’t have the slightest f~~~ing clue about anything valuable or real. I have to do 100% of the work in conversations now, and it’s gotten so bad that I don’t even want to put in the minimal effort it takes to get laid anymore because I feel like I am lowering myself just giving them my time.
This is the first time I have expressed this sentiment, as one of my jobs is teaching guys how to get laid, and I don’t want to discourage them too much. Many neophyte seducer types are very hopeful and optimistic and I try not to pop their bubbles too badly–and I do help a lot of them get what they are looking for. But I have to refrain from indulging in the negativity that I often feel when listening to some female dips~~~ blathering on about absolutely nothing, responding to real questions with one-word answers or “oh, I don’t like to talk about that stuff” or watching their eyes glaze over when I bring up literally anything that requires an IQ above 80 to process. This is even true for the supposedly “smart women,” the one in STEM fields, who even when I bring up a topic relating to technology or science, are utterly f~~~ing clueless. I have no idea how so many women are earning degrees.
I was always 9/10 of the way to full MGTOW, and these last 6 months in particular have pushed me to 9.9/10. I can approach women, make them laugh, get their numbers, go on dates and sleep with some of them, but it’s almost become more of a hassle than it’s worth for me simply because I am doing 100% of the value-providing, the stimulating, the joking, the teaching, and every other part of the conversation where joy is passed from one person to the other. The only women I can even tolerate these days are either:
1. Also entrepreneurs, or
2. The women whose mothers taught them how to act and respect men properly, and who contribute to the conversation in a playful feminine way.Both of those are fun for me to be around, but it’s a very small minority. I’m not even asking for advice, I am just ranting because I am learning more and more as life goes on, that negative feelings only harm me unless I express them. And I am no longer allowing myself to bottle any of this up, it has led to far too much inner pain in my life for me to continue to put on the mask and pretend that I “love and respect all women” when frankly, I would say that less than 5% of them have any value to me whatsoever and I see the rest as losers.
The more of a winner I become in life, the farther I get from most people in general–but women in particular. I used to really love and respect them, until I took control of my own ship, realized how few barriers there truly are, and then watching them having everything served to them on a silver platter while bitching and moaning about how the patriarchy holds them back. I know that only 18% of women officially call themselves feminists, according to the latest Infowars data, but I’d say closer to 85% of them live that life even without the label.
Absolutely useless. Conversation is a big thing for me, and it is really sad how few of them can even string a meaningful sentence or thought together.
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Anonymous3KeyMaster made a really nice analogy about women being like pedal grinders in some topic, I forgot which one. As long as you keep pumping, sparks fly. Nothing happens when you stop, until the next person comes.
They just don’t seem to have any real substance deep down. One thing I’ve noticed in my past relationships, the women simply never did anything. They couldn’t tell a joke, couldn’t tell a story, couldn’t come up with humorous memes, couldn’t come up with any random funny s~~~. Instead they all would end up copying me, my speech patterns, my accent, my memes, etc.
Zero, absolutely not a single improvisation and creative bone in their bodies. Everything they say ends up being the regurgitation of something, every single time.
My dating experiences were the same. At some point: “What did I do that for? It wasn’t worth it just to get laid.” Turned into: “I’m not going to do that again.”
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
After 12 hour work days, I would come home and the bitch would blare for 1/2 hour, (the world as we know it was coming to a f~~~ing end), while I enjoyed a beer- I would always tell her, “Know what, you been speaking for 1/2 hour, I haven’t heard a thing you said- come back in a few hours, I just got off work.” What a dependent self aggrandizing c~~~!
I worked production high stress job, she did a lazy housewife one, but she nagged to get praise from me. Well f~~~ her.
Her head is so far up her butt hole she can’t see the light of day- self centered bitch.
Most women have smarts zero, conversational skills zero, intellect zero, So take a hint, bitches and f~~~ off.
She the conversationalist eventually left for good, best times ever since.
The peaceful solitude is my reward for being a good man.
The mistress for my usage also, damn, life is good!I just happened across this topic and was going to liken women to one of those blade sharpening tools with a seat, a wheel and a pedal. Then @TungusKahn beat me to it. Not only is the juice not worth the squeeze, but its not even like the oranges are sitting in front of you. YOU are expected to drive out to the orchard, and break your f~~~ing neck before you can even think about making juice.
It’s an epidemic. And it’s recent. Specially since smart phones. ZERO social skills. Bizarre non-responses to even every day conversation and a simple “good morning” in an elevator. A “relationship”? You must be joking. It would be like having a “relationship” with that sword sharpening tool. Do all the work, and its good for something. But ease back on the effort and it’s totally useless. Doesn’t even have it’s own motor.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Conversation requires listening.
Listening requires 1) an interest in the other person, 2) a respect of the other person,
3) common mannersSelfish people or rude people tend not to be good listeners. Females today are smart enough to engage in conversation. But they are fixated on themselves and their interests- not your interests. For instance, try talking about their hair or their shoes and you could talk for hours.
You can’t talk about things that interest you because frankly they are not interested. And they don’t possess basic etiquette skills either.I make a habit of dressing down away from the office. Ladies usually aren’t interested in conversing with me either. If I dress well, however, and appear as though I have money,
then the same ladies are great conversationalists. (gold-diggers)If you want to carry on great conversations, you have 2 choices: 1) find a well mannered lady who cares about you (this is difficult) or 2) look like you make a lot of money. (You can have fun playing the gold-diggers). Thanks
Anonymous11I can count on less than 3 fingers the number of women that I’ve met in my entire life who can hold a normal conversation.
Me, me, me, me, me, my kids, my kids, that bitch, that bitch, he beats me and smokes crack, but I love him, I want, I want, I want.
Did I leave anything out here?
Conversation requires listening.
That’s it exactly. But women know as much about listening as a donkey knows about playing a flute. They just want YOU to listen and think they are having a conversation. “I just need you to listen” I kept hearing women say ad nauseam……. but in reality she needs to shut the f~~~ and listen herself.
Shutting the f~~~ up and listening has served men very well in the professional world. When a man tells you to “shut the f~~~ and listen”, you know you’re about to learn something of VALUE. A woman just thinks you’re being cruel. That fact alone has held women back more than any mythical glass ceiling.
I can count on less than 3 fingers the number of women that I’ve met in my entire life who can hold a normal conversation.
You’re doing very well.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.To get her pants off, the less talking from her and I, the better.
Talk to your male friends if you want intelligent conversation.
Marriage is the disease, divorce is the cure. MGTOW is the vaccine.
Women’s inate narcissism has been carefully nurtured by the megaglobal marketing machine. Uninquisitive, docile, self interested and overtly consumerist, the perfect customer, the perfect servile unquestioning citizen. It’s an Edward Bernays wonderland, and you f~~~ing live in it my friend! Don’t expect to drown if you jump in a puddle.
We only dream this bondage. Wake up and let it go. - Vivekananda
I’ve stopped expecting anything of quality from them, and stopped blaming myself when the conversations are s~~~, and since ive done this, the enjoyment i get from conversing with them has risen highly. I once looked for something from them, from the conversations, now i expect and want nothing from the conversations, and its weird that from that stance, im actually starting to get something from the conversations with them. Nothing of significance or importance, more so just casual companionship. But even that doesn’t last long, the feminist rhetoric starts protruding and i run for the f~~~ing hills haha
Anytime I’ve tried to have an intelligent conversation with them it never works, because most of them are so vapid. I used to blame myself for that, but it was actually they who were to blame.
Here’s my take on it. I just dumped Facebook, because it’s an endless string of duck lip selfies, cats, and harpy’s. I met a woman there and told her all the things I was interested in… Astronomy, Cosmology, Physics, Philosophy, the nature of existence, Apologetics, History, electronics, cern, medicine, biology, the nature of information, The Big Bang, The multiverse, String theory, m theory, politics, the destructive nature of Islam in the world, … you get the idea.
Other than being able to ply 2 word answers from her mouth there was no possibility of substantive conversation on any level except maybe an emotional one. The crazy came out too fast so I just deactivated Facebook and have no intention of returning to any social media site… the bowel movement of the internet.I work with 4 liberal chicks, and the other day I went off about 3rd wave feminism which none were actually familiar with, and I said, “I have yet to find a women who is either interested or can keep up in two or even one of these things let alone know they even exist. It’s a huge universe out there to explore and understand. One says on the rare occasions I bring these things up, “Slow down, you use too many big words that I don’t understand, and I have a hard time following you (That occurs after the eyes glaze over)” This person has a higher education than I do.
Another said, “I can see why you’re not married!” I laughed, and said “there’d be too much dumbing down for copious amounts of the day with one dimensional uninteresting topics… for f~~~s sake why would I want to waste my time with that? I understand it’s necessary to communicate about life’s utility, cooking, cleaning, honey do lists, shopping, bills, but after that there’s nothing but the bachelor, Kardashians, blah, blah, blah and endless online shopping.
I have been single and celibate for the last 10 years because there’s just too much to know and not a single f~~~ing women to talk to any of it about.
Civilization and scientific knowledge has advanced, and modern technology exists precisely because men are interested in these things. Misandric hive mind wouldn’t even exist if it weren’t for men creating the infrastructure.
………there’s just too much to know and not a single f~~~ing women to talk to any of it about.
This. So much. It’s painful, though there are plenty of two dimensional motherf~~~ers of both sexes. Like you, I can’t stop learning, reading, being generally fascinated by this existence and challenging my assumptions constantly. Many of the topics you listed interest me also, I’ve done a fair bit of reading around these subjects. I’ve recently resumed my interest in the cosmos, will be treating myself to a 12″ Newt scope soon (can’t wait). The number of people I know that I can talk to about this = 0. Not even a passing interest from anyone I know. How is it possible not to wonder about things?
In the last few years I’ve mostly given up on talking about my interests and discoveries. Most only see knowledge as a way to leverage their egos, and I try to avoid that trap with reasonable success. Pearls before swine I suppose. But it is disheartening, I agree entirely.
There’s an ageing feminist I know, intelligent and more interesting than most, but she’s always laughing about how ‘men tinkering in workshops’ and playing with things is evidence that men just want to be boys and never grow up. I’m not sure they can even grasp how our minds work at all. Abstract thought? What’s that? lol.
We only dream this bondage. Wake up and let it go. - Vivekananda
I brought this thread over to r/MGTOW and it got linked to a blue pill bulls~~~ thingy that I thought some may find interesting.https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/2nj2ed/my_compilation_of_posts_on_why_trp_is_sexist_and/
A few of my last experiences:
A married friend of mine wanted to introduce me to a girl friend of his wife and he invited them to watch Interstellar which is a movie I was really looking forward to see as I love science fiction/Nollan.
The bitch arrived late and with her sister, both dress as if going to a night club, they were hot though but the first thing they did was to go and buy smoothies all relaxed even though the movie had already started, as if they were going to watch just any popcorn movie. This was interstellar damnit!
After the movie I started to comment about the incredible things about the story, such as quantum mechanics, etc. And one of them just said “yes it’s like boyfriend says, blah, blah, blah…” quoting her boyfriend, she didn’t really have a smart argument of her own, she had to quote her boyfriend. We were then supposed to go to a bar but immediately after the movie they headed to some department store and dragged us with them, in that moment I immediately excused myself and told them I had to go. My friend was cool with it as he knew they were acting like dumb/spoiled bitches.
Then I see them posting pictures on facebook all the time in the same duck face positions in the same settings = expensive restaurants or clubs, dressed hot. Thing is, one works as a hostess, the other one in a travel agency and they go to super expensive places they wouldn’t normally be able to afford, I asked my friend and he says their dad and also men invite them.
Another one:
Met these drunk bitches at spring break in Mexico, one was super hot, tanned skin, blue eyes, dark hair, awesome ass, fake boobs, Russian-Canadian and around 18-19. Not only they were drunk everyday, it was impossible to have a conversation with her, all her answers were “yep”, “no”, and trying to act older and tuff but at the same time, she knew she didn’t have to have a real conversation, she was hot and that’s all she needed in life. Anyways, they were so spoiled, so immature, so self-entitled, that I couldn’t f~~~ her. I had her in my bed semi-naked after swimming in the pool and all she repeated was “Where’s my friend?, my parents are going to be so p~~~ed off that we didn’t spend the night in the hotel” and didn’t even care about being in bed with me, as if I wasn’t there.Another one:
The Bulgarian girl I met/f~~~ed while in Mexico, her conversation was mostly zip, so I focused only on f~~~ing. When I visited on Bulgaria, not only we didnt f~~~, but all her conversation was about working out, her gym instructor, posting selfies on facebook for men to comment and she once commented on facebook: “All I want is a man to cuddle and drink protein shakes with me”How can we not see them as sex objects?
The Road Warrior, I hear you. It’s what I experience as well. “quantum Mechanics… boyfriend talk for blah blah blah” LOL, these things should be put away in a drawer until it’s time to f~~~ again with the caveat they keep their mouths shut, and the really bizarre thing is they think they are superior.
“How can we not view them as sex objects”
In the slut walk that Milos Yiannopolous got kicked out of he was talking to a bimbo who had her t~~~ hanging out with nipples covered. She said essentially, “It’s my right to walk around like this but you don’t have the right to look”. Ever heard of an amygdala, bitch? Biology over rules your brand of crazy.
It is the worst. They are either: complaining, gossiping, or telling you what they want.
Once you get a word in, they are just waiting for the opportunity for you to finish, so that they can talk again.
Yesterday I did something stupid, I accepted the invitation to go to lunch with an older woman. I went full MGTOW a few months ago and now I feel absolutely lack of interest in women, the only way I would date one is if she’s a f~~~ing bombshell and there’s instant chemistry to the point I would have to do no effort and my only interest would be sex, although I know a situation like this will probably never happened. Anyways, I made an exception because she’s one of my meditation students and has a crush on me, I’m not interested on her but she has been begging me to go out with her for a while. I’m not attracted but I’m a good person and can’t help it, so out of charity and also because the restaurant is a few minutes walking and it’s a Mexican restaurant I wanted to know, I accepted.
She totally reminded me why I’m not interested: She’s like 37 I think, I’m 32, she could look 40. Her only good attribute is that she has this happy girl face but upon closer look, yeah she’s a bit wrinkled and her hair is totally the hair of an old woman, you know, no longer shiny, don’t know if she dies it. Then I found out why she doesn’t seem to take care of herself: She’s slightly chubby under Czech woman standards, wears lose jeans and has no sense of fashion whatsoever and the reason is because she’s simply a train wreck of frustration.
I started talking about cool spiritual stuff and about the history of some monuments downtown and I could sense that she wasn’t listening to me, and when it was her turn, she would only talk about her boring, frustrated life, how she’s looking for activities to keep herself busy, that’s why she was going to meditate in the first place, not because she was spiritual or felt a connection but because she’s doing a lot of similar activities just to try to get out of frustration, I guess she also wanted me to entertain her and since she saw I was not interested she became more frustrated.
It was a waste of time but at least the food was good and I discovered they have a bar and serve nice Mezcals so I will come back to the place to try them. After a few hours, my stomach reminded me why I don’t normally eat Mexican food.
As a side note, it is interesting how women in Czech Republic are so frustrated, young and old, I mean, in any part of the world but here they are particularly frustrated, and 30 year olds here in Czech Republic have absolutely no power over men. I feel no pity, I remember when I was in college in Mexico, I was an attractive guy and found most of the women at college were ugly and below my standards but still they saw me as if I didn’t exist because women this age, especially in Mexico, put a lot of importance on dating older university men. I remember seeing them chatting and the first question they would ask was “how old is he” instead of “what’s his name”. Nobody gave a s~~~ about me just because I was their same age.
Unfortunately this is not true in the USA, men are so desperate there that they would try to f~~~ anything. I had a friend from Arizona living in L.A. and he was living in this old ladies’ house, she was like in her 50s, fat and crazy but he says she was dating men every week, men she met online, and these men were actually young actors, nobodies, of course, but young men nevertheless, how can a fat, old, crazy lady achieve this?
Well, when I lived there before MGTOW I tried dating sites, I only messaged attractive girls and in almost 2 years I only received response from one that was just OK but she never agreed to go out. I wasn’t desperate either but I can see how many blue pill desperate men get tired of this and then start trying to date anything that moves, it is sad.And in addition to that they insist on trying to trap you into a conversation when you have given no sign at all that you want to interact with them. Two women I work with are like that. Phony as a three dollar bill when discussing their lives at home, and they won’t shut up, even when I drop every possible hint that whatever comes out of their mouth is worthless.
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