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Let me start with a little story that has brought me to type this out.
I have learned as a MGTOW not to help women unless they pay me…and pay me fairly. My mother needed some help moving into her new house, and has paid me a VERY decent bit to do so (enough for me to take some college classes of I wish). Soon after we finished and were resting up, she starts looking through Facebook. Here’s where it got bad.
I hate the new Facebook layout, because it tells your Facebook friends EXACTLY what you comment on and what you said. My mother saw my comment threads about asking women who said they were SO oppressed, and that men are SO privileged, why aren’t they legally obligated to register for selective service?
Think about it. Actually, what am I saying? I know we ALL have on this site.
They were given the right to vote, but NOT required to register for a potential draft like men are. If men don’t register, they can be fined $250k and face up to 5 years imprisonment. They also lose their right to vote and lose their right to financial aid for schooling. Women lose nothing!
My mother confronted me about the post and when I told her “if women believe they are SO ‘equal’, should they not have to face the same responsibilities and obligations that men do?” I know NEVER to argue with women as it’s usually a waste of time, but I was in a spot where I kind of had to answer. So, I presented my facts.
Her response? “So you think women shouldn’t be allowed to vote?” I said “if men HAVE to register for the service to vote, women should too…IF they’re as equal as they say they are.” Her response to that? NOTHING. Not a word. This is normal from EVERY woman I’ve asked online. It’s like they want men to be traditionalists and they themselves can do whatever they wish. I’m not backing down, and I refuse to return to the gynocentric plantation.
Getting silence online is one thing. Getting literal silence from my mother, one of the most argumentative people I know, was quite something else…
Unfriend your mom.
“if men HAVE to register for the service to vote, women should too…IF they’re as equal as they say they are.”
Yes, they should. The feminist lobby has forced women into the US military — submarines even. Thus, they should be forced to register for the draft and be put in the same jeopardy as male citizens.
Her response to that? NOTHING. Not a word. This is normal from EVERY woman I’ve asked online. It’s like they want men to be traditionalists and they themselves can do whatever they wish.
I get the same response. They are not going to change their minds, but they are not going to take their conversations into uncomfortable territory ether.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
An excellent victory but…
My mother confronted me about the post and when I told her “if women believe they are SO ‘equal’, should they not have to face the same responsibilities and obligations that men do?” I know NEVER to argue with women as it’s usually a waste of time, but I was in a spot where I kind of had to answer. So, I presented my facts.
Her response? “So you think women shouldn’t be allowed to vote?”
Wow, your mum twisted your words to make you look like an arsehole and women look like “victims of your oppression”.
You may not need reminding of this but I want to put it out there: family is just people you are randomly assigned to at birth, “Family” is no obligation to stay in contact with anyone. The question you may need to ask yourself is: Out of all the people you could have for parents, would YOU choose YOUR family?
I have said this before. If my son can be forced to go some to God forsaken hell hole to fight and die, then someone else’s daughter can too.
If people don’t believe women can fight in war then just look up the YPJ ..Kurdish women’s militia. They have been fighting ISIS for a long time and beating them. Vids of them fighting are on on YouTube.frankly my dear i don't give a damn
One of the most inconvenient things about the truth, it’s damned hard to argue with it.
Rights come with responsibilities, otherwise known as obligations, now on our side of the lake we got rid of the draft a long time ago but in places where it still exists and men are placed under an obligation to register for selective service, then according to the doctrine of equality either:
women must be placed under the same obligation to register for selective service and potentially be called upon.
-or-
women must lose the rights associated with that obligation, including the right to vote.Now whether that will ever happen, I rather doubt it. One reason among many I would never serve in the armed forces of this country.
Her response? “So you think women shouldn’t be allowed to vote?”
This is a typical example of how women filter out all the logic in a discussion and just respont to their feelz. They don’t even realise that they’re getting an easier ride than men in life and when facts are presented that show otherwise, their brains just can’t comprehend it.
The simple fact is: There is NO equality and won’t be any, ever.
The Feminist movement isn’t about equality and we here at MGTOW know it damn well and have had the experiences. Feminism promotes the denigration of Men and the image that Men are savage sexual predators. They wants to eradicate Men from the face of the earth and keep just enough of us for labour and slavish tasks.
In another thread, it was asked if weemins were stupid.
Feminist weemins aren’t stupid, they know exactly what they want and are getting there.
The non-Feminist weemins ( if there is such a thing and I personally think there isn’t ) are only short-sighted and oblivious to the War on Men. All they want is go shopping and ride the c~~~ carousel.
So weemins think they are better soldiers than Men, FINE. They also make just as good cannon fodder and a bullet doesn’t care about Political Correctness.Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!Getting silence online is one thing. Getting literal silence from my mother, one of the most argumentative people I know, was quite something else…
To which the only appropriate response is to demand she ANSWER THE F~~~ING QUESTION!
Never EVER give them a pass on this. NEVER let a woman evade it, not even your own mother, with silence or changing the subject or turning it around on you or any other method of weaseling out of their blatant selfish hypocrisy, because that blatant selfish hypocrisy SENDS MEN TO DIE FOR THEM.
Getting silence online is one thing. Getting literal silence from my mother, one of the most argumentative people I know, was quite something else…
To which the only appropriate response is to demand she ANSWER THE F~~~ING QUESTION!
Never EVER give them a pass on this. NEVER let a woman evade it, not even your own mother, with silence or changing the subject or turning it around on you or any other method of weaseling out of their blatant selfish hypocrisy, because that blatant selfish hypocrisy SENDS MEN TO DIE FOR THEM.
Exactly!
Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!Just a proposal: Get your ass off facebook, that s~~~ is just a pool of collective idiocy and attention whores showing off and begging for likes! 😛
The simple fact is: There is NO equality and won’t be any, ever.
I think John The Other got it right in one of his videos recently when he said that the fundimental flaw in the MRA movement and why it is doomed to fail is because it’s based on the faulty assumption that society at large can be compassionate towards men. There is no compassion for men.
I read The Red Pill on Reddit every now and then and an interesting discussion came up a few weeks ago about the Male Wall. We all know that the female wall is directly tied to her decline of fertility and usualy hits around 30, but somebody said that the male wall starts much earlier around men’s teenage years when we’re no longer viewed as children and expected go out and earn our way in society, by that stage we’re no longer judged for who we are but what we can provide.
In effect, women get an extended childhood that lasts into their mid thirties and men are cast out and need to fend for themselves from a much earlier age.
The simple fact is: There is NO equality and won’t be any, ever.
I think John The Other got it right in one of his videos recently when he said that the fundimental flaw in the MRA movement and why it is doomed to fail is because it’s based on the faulty assumption that society at large can be compassionate towards men. There is no compassion for men.
I read The Red Pill on Reddit every now and then and an interesting discussion came up a few weeks ago about the Male Wall. We all know that the female wall is directly tied to her decline of fertility and usualy hits around 30, but somebody said that the male wall starts much earlier around men’s teenage years when we’re no longer viewed as children and expected go out and earn our way in society, by that stage we’re no longer judged for who we are but what we can provide.
In effect, women get an extended childhood that lasts into their mid thirties and men are cast out and need to fend for themselves from a much earlier age.
Correct.
I don’t think of it in those terms ( mine are much more apocalyptic due to my belief system ) but what you’re describing is a fact.But on the other hand, it is very very good that young men are “no longer viewed as children and expected go out and earn our way in society” It teaches them what this world is all about = heartless and evil.
Once they get that, it’s easier for them to act for their self-preservation and go their own way.Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!“Military Men Are Dumb, Stupid Animals Meant To Be Used As Cannon Fodder” ~ Henry Kissinger
And now we can include weemins in the lot.
Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!Conscription of women is being pushed by feminist organizations in the U.S..
Norway just made female conscription manditory:
In June 2013, the parliament of Norway made a principal resolution to introduce female conscription, being the first country in NATO and Europe to do so.[58] In October 2014 laws were passed by parliament, declaring female conscription, effective from January 2015.[59]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
I have two sisters who define themselves as strong independent black women. We had a friendly discussion the other night about false rape allegations against men and women constantly accusing men of molestation. I told her that women get easier charges in molestation cases compared to men while men are fined imprisoned and left to rot. She said it’s because in general men are a majority of the rapists thus justifying the court decisions to hold men to a higher standard. Essentially statistics should influence justice.
I rebutted by saying that with her line of reasoning, corporatipns should use the fact as a black woman she has a higher chance of being a single mom with a baby daddy than a white women to limit her career prospects. Therefore if she ever has a baby and wants to apply for a job it’s perfectly fair for the boss to assume she’s a ghetto single mom with a bf in prison and not hire her since statistically that’s the case. Of course she was offended and wanted to keep arguing but eventually kept silent. This happens all the time.
Female family members are often the worst form of feminism you have to put up with because you are forced to cohabitate and deal with them for a majority of your life. Unfriend your mother or leave facebook.
I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.
I’ll be leaving Facebook soon. I know it sounds a tad deceptive, but I’m going to wait to leave it AFTER she pays me for the work I did yesterday (she’s paying me this coming Thursday because that’s her payday).
Another thing was she already got into a huge fight with my sister earlier that day RIGHT when I was starting to help my mom move and clean up her apartment.
My sister was picking up her son (my nephew, obviously). My mom said she took him to church yesterday and he got to hang out with the daughter of one of my mother’s ex-boyfriends. My sister took my nephew and quickly left. My mom started screaming at her in the apartment parking lot, telling her “you have no right to be ugly to me! I took him to have a good time!”
My sister’s thought is that my nephew will call these couple of men my mother has dated as “grandpa” (my mom SPECIFICALLY gave them that nickname), and my sister doesn’t like that idea. She wants him to have ONE “grandpa,” and that’s my sister’s and my dad. She doesn’t want all these other men that are physically and emotionally close to my mother being labeled the same thing, especially 1) they won’t be around for long and 2) my mom JUST got married a month ago.
After that happened and my mom screamed that my sister needs to pack her stuff and find somewhere else to live (she used to do the same to me when either I defended myself or I didn’t argue at all and just kept quiet).
Needless to say (and the reason I mentioned that story), that stressful day on ME made me not want to deal with any of that mess. I just told myself “I won’t get involved in the family drama. I will do this so I can get that decent payback for my classes I paid for, and go about my business as usual.”
I haven’t posted anything on Facebook today or after yesterday’s event. I’ll stay “active” on it until this coming weekend, then I’ll “go ghost” on there like I have most of my other social networking apps. These people on those pages aren’t really worth my time. I have the contact info for my closest guy friends I know in person, and the only other people I really communicate with are you guys on here and on the MGTOW Reddit page. That alone does more than you all know. 🙂
Anonymous5Get off all social media. Trust me. You will feel a million times better.
Too many c~~~s in this world. Your real friends and family will call you if they want to talk.
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