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Hey guys I found something that might be of interest. No it’s not exactly ‘The Exorcist’, or anything creepy like that though the word ‘demon’ might make some a little uneasy nonetheless. No this clip delves into the spiritual reasons why many women behave the way they do – with usually destructive results – and how to deal with them, and though I’m non-denominational (I haven’t set foot in a church in years) I found it very intriguing nonetheless because yes, I DO believe that negative forces (i.e. demons) exist and can operate through people. You can draw your own conclusions after viewing, however.
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
For someone who has a gif of a atom and is using the name neutron i am not seeing much science here nor anything backed up by science. We know women try to extort men especially when they want a relationship but calling the exortion tactics demons really? Is there any evidence that demons exist?
I just don’t want mgtow crawling to that level we must use reason and logic to not be appear as complete nutcases to men who may potentially join. This is just pushing religious pseudoscience but it is anti women so the angry people who just began swallowing the red pill can accept it.
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
Uh…OK, prove to me – scientifically – that they DON’T exist, and BTW this is a debate that cannot be won on either side of the argument since it can’t be proven conclusively either way, however I’ve met quite a few people that have had encounters with spiritual forces over the years: friends, family, and co-workers, as well as many case histories of these events. I’m all for science, reason, and logic dude, but I have the intelligence to realize that there are some things science will never have a rational explanation for. There are some things that lie beyond logic, reason, the intellect, and our perceptions of reality.
BTW get real mi amigo, MGTOW isn’t going to ‘crawl’ anywhere over a mere opinion. Peace out!
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Whether or not demons did exist, women operate the way they do BECAUSE they are women. Satan would run scared the other way if he had to deal with Lorena Bobbit for the rest of eternity.
Blaming women’s behavior on demons is just shifting the blame from THEM.
Women act the way they act because of AWALT.
A few years ago I remember a pastor referring to feminism as the foul spirit of Jezebel.
He might’ve been onto something seeing as how false rape accusation are soaring and women are now throwing “divorce parties”. I s~~~ you not!!
Anonymous7Science grows, adapts, changes. If we went by science in ancient times, the world would still be flat and the universe revolving around the earth.
At one time, that was science.
Things exist that cannot be explained by science, nor will they ever based upon the current scientific model. Consciousness is one. Science can’t even wrap it’s head around conscousness yet.
The funniest and most ironic part of developing science is the “holographic universe” theory. For one, if it IS true, it cannot be seen for what it is while within it, which means science will never know.
Quantum entanglement, the double slit experiment: Science is baffled by these and other phenomena… very much modern day science.
Subatomic particles that change behavior based on if they are being observed? So far, that part has been proven. Now why is it so? Science has no clue.
Perception itself is a fallacy. Can science prove to me that the color blue I see is the same as you? No, science can’t. It can’t even explain why others see different things when showed the exact same image: It’s skewed by our perceptions.
Science can’t even prove that I, for instance, am not a brain in a tank with sensory stimuli being input like a program. Prove you’re not.
Nor can science tell me that when I see this page, which is converted to electrical signals and reconstructed by my brain into an image, that all of us would see the image the same. The same goes for all 5 of our senses.
While I agree jumping on the bandwagon of religious labeling and buzzwords is a bad idea, I have myself used the Jezebel argument to smite christian feminists. It is what it is: I don’t have to believe in it to use it. I’ll use any weapon I want to even if it’s theirs.
But thinking that the unexplained = nutcases is your perception and not shared by everyone MGTOW or no.
Modern science yesterday isn’t as advanced as modern science one day after, yet unexplained phenomena continues to exert influence in many areas and on many things, however science will have to adapt much faster and much farther than now.
Hell, there’s phenomena I’ve experienced that cannot be put into language. Words do not work well for spiritual things, and therefore how can I communicate those experiences?
There are limitations to everything, especially the scientific method hidden behind perceptions.
I prefer to keep my mind open so that the majority of what science is lifetimes away from proving doesn’t mean that I have to keep my head in the sand as to what is unexplainable today.
Plus, I suppose MGTOW for me means that I am free to believe what I wish.
Uh…OK, prove to me – scientifically – that they DON’T exist…
Women are only bad because they’re possessed? Talk about the ultimate Pussy Pass! You’re denying woman any agency in their lives. You’re actually making excuses for their behavior.
Anyway, don’t be an idiot. That’s not how science works because you can’t “prove” a negative.
Instead, it’s incumbent on you, the person claiming they exist, to prove that they do.
At one time, that was science.
No it wasn’t. Science has a very specific meaning and those ancient natural philosopher were not engaged in science.
Things exist that cannot be explained by science…
Things exist that cannot be explained by science yet.
Plus, I suppose MGTOW for me means that I am free to believe what I wish.
Let me quote someone far smarter than you and I:
“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.”
I’ll add that while you’re entitled to your informed opinion, you’re not entitled to your own facts.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
What the f~~~? so you are pushing your exorcist myths which are by the way unproven into mgtow just because science is not perfect? this is the same as saying that faries wear boots and since they live in an invisible not detectable realm that they actually do wear boots. Since you can’t prove the faries don’t wear boots.
Also for the wolf man stop setting up your strawman the greeks knew the world was round and science always evolves with new information unlike religious dogma. Just because science does not know all does not mean your religion has the top spot over it due to it being an old mythological book.
Mgtow must appeal to the common man and spouting about demons and magic is not the way to do it. If i was to bring up how religion is blue pilled i would get shouted down for being anti christian and how jesus and paul were mgtow. But you can get away with spouting bulls~~~ about invisible magic spirits that take control of us because god allowed the spirits to exist in the first place.
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
Let me quote someone far smarter than you and I:
“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.”
I’ll add that while you’re entitled to your informed opinion, you’re not entitled to your own facts.
You Sir, deserve a standing ovation for reiterating a statement so basic and true. It has been forgotten.
There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it
@oldbill man you are the only other person in this thread who actual understands there is no proof for any of the claims he provided. Also @grumpy
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
Idiots? Nutcases?Good grief. Whenever someone talks about metaphysics it seems people get so upset. Why all the ad hominems? That’s a logical fallacy used to discredit the opposition and has no value in a discussion among men. In fact it is used to take the place of actual reason when there is no point to be made. I know it feels good to insult someone for their personal views on life but is that really the best way? It is certainly divisive, unhelpful and sets a bad example of how to disagree with someone. Think of burning bridges.
The definition of science has evolved over the centuries. Only in the enlightenment period was it restricted to empirical knowledge. Recently scientists are rethinking this definition of science to include the metaphysical. I refer you to the recent discoveries of CERN. Stop being divisive. If you don’t care about that at least use sound logical reasoning and not arguments devoid of substance. With that said, I do wish you well but I’m certain more ad hominems will be thrown in place of solid reasoning. Peace.
On the subject at hand. I do think powerful beings could be influencing the actions of people. I’ve studied too much of the occult and talked to a few too many satanists in my time to be unaware of reality.
On the subject at hand. I do think powerful beings could be influencing the actions of people.
Fair enough.
IMHO, the key word is “could”. It may just be , however that still does not preclude or excuse a supposed intelligent human being exercises their will, and resisting ill influence.
Again, this does not excuse a human from its own agency. Read RESPONSIBILITY.
I think, therefor I am.
The Caveat is, only I am responsible for my actions, regardless of the circumstances involved. Using “demons” as an excuse would, during the course of human history, have ended with me being burnt at the stake, tortured, mutilated, AND executed. Only recently in a human historical sense, would I be locked away as insane.There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it
Anonymous3Idiots? Nutcases?Good grief. Whenever someone talks about metaphysics it seems people get so upset. Why all the ad hominems? That’s a logical fallacy used to discredit the opposition and has no value in a discussion among men. In fact it is used to take the place of actual reason when there is no point to be made. I know it feels good to insult someone for their personal views on life but is that really the best way? It is certainly divisive, unhelpful and sets a bad example of how to disagree with someone. Think of burning bridges.
Quite right. This is how women and fools argue. It’s usually done because of massive insecurity and fear. Blue pill programming is pretty obvious after you unplug, but these people don’t understand they’re still following the attack patterns they’ve been imprinted with on this issue.
Also, I always see science cited broadly, but I almost never see anyone cite the specifics they claim disprove religious theories. I always get the feeling the average person has no idea what String theory is, has no idea what Higgs is, and would be completely stunned that CERN is busy trying to teleport in extra-dimensional objects/beings if they even know what CERN is.
I have only once seen an actual scientist get involved in one of these forum arguments based on science and religion, he was attacked relentlessly by the casual pop liberal science brigade while he put up peer reviewed studies and explained science that went right over their heads. I got a good laugh about it but stayed out of it, as I already know how stupid most people are and merely enjoyed the man’s intelligence before he gave up in frustration and disappeared.
And so it is usually best to simply shut down these types of discussions on the internet. I never mention these things in the workplace, and I take a dim view even on here. What I find pathetic is watching so-called MGTOW who should know better viciously attack other MGTOW, but it is what it is. I don’t really expect MGTOW to advance any further than it already is, and expect it to just destroy itself from within anyway. But while it’s still around, it’s been fun.
I always get the feeling the average person has no idea what String theory is, has no idea what Higgs is, and would be completely stunned that CERN is busy trying to teleport in extra-dimensional objects/beings if they even know what CERN is.
Just how does string theory, detecting the Higgs, or quantum tunneling “prove” religious “theories”?
As for CERN and the Globe, I’ve actually visited. Have you?
I freely admit that…
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.I will not, however, automatically assign all that we don’t know to the realm of the supernatural because time and time again I’ve seen our philosophy advance enough to explain the previously inexplicable.
Women as a group DO NOT act they way they do because they’re possessed as a group by some supernatural or extra-dimensional or fill-in-the-blank entities. They act the way they do because they’re women and we allow it.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
Anonymous3Just how does string theory, detecting the Higgs, or quantum tunneling “prove” religious “theories”?
I freely admit that…
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.I will not, however, automatically assign all that we don’t know to the realm of the supernatural because time and time again I’ve seen our philosophy advance enough to explain the previously inexplicable.
Women as a group DO NOT act they way they do because they’re possessed as a group by some supernatural or extra-dimensional or fill-in-the-blank entities. They act the way they do because they’re women and we allow it.
Liberal leftists insist science disproves the existence of extra-dimensional beings. Those aspects of science listed above essentially indicate the very opposite–that science can not possibly disprove anything extra-dimensional. Because science claims that very dimensional theory (not OF these beings, just simply that something exists, which is the opposite argument liberal leftists apply to science incorrectly).
As for the demon possession thing? I think it’s absurd to claim it, and a religious reading seems to indicate it’s not even possible now anymore (that Jesus threw the spirits out for good, also the indication is that those were Nephilim not demons, but I digress). Certainly all women in the West can’t be possessed.
But that wasn’t my point either.
My point is merely MGTOW should not openly disrespect and mock each other, especially with leftist liberal rhetoric, and especially when they don’t even understand what and why they are behaving the way they do. To attack another man over his beliefs simply because you have been programmed with mainstream attack patterns shows continued blue pill programming.
Whether someone believes in religion or not is irrelevant. It is about acting like a man and showing a minimum level of civility. Women lack this civility and will constantly attack whenever they have a socially approved avenue. This blue pill “attack religion because science” pattern is a facet of that.
In general I’ve always just kept out of this, but it is poor form IMO and only serves to drive people away. There are too many religious MGTOW that bring a lot of wisdom that they should just be told they are mindless idiots as some on here do every time they get a chance. No issue for me, I laugh at it, but I’ve seen some members just sort of fade out because of that type of thing, and that is a loss for everyone.
It was Eve who talked to Satan in the Garden and started all this nonsense the world has suffered from for millennia; it still seems women love listening to Mr. Evil rather than a man with common sense. Adam knew better.
"Shot through the heart, and you're to blame, You give love a bad name, I play my part and you play your game, You give love a bad name."--Bon Jovi
I do think people are ultimately responsible for their actions.
Phoenix, if you have time and know of an article or theologian or what have you that supports your view please share. I have a different take on the presence of spiritual beings but let me know if there is a video or some reading material.
I tend to agree with Dr. Michael S. Heiser on the subject. He recently released a book called the unseen realm. If you have any interest I could point you to some material. He did a presentation which is terribly long but I found it interesting. If not then cheers!
My former wife is severely afflicted with BPD. There were times when her behaviour was so bat-s~~~ off-the-wall crazy, so completely unnatural, so unhuman that even I – as an educated modern man – just looked at her in horror and thought ‘she’s demon-possessed’.
Our western civilisation and the influence it has world-wide is based upon the Bible and Christianity. It’s almost instinctual to refer to our cultural background in order to explain any situation we find ourselves in.
For a very long time, religious practices and terminology were all we had to guide and explain human interactions.
So although the terminology might feel outdated the core ideals are still relevant. Psychology/Psychiatry as a scientific field is just over 100 years old and even in that short period of time has undergone major shifts in practice and terminology.
So what we call BPD, Freud might have called Hysteria and St Paul might have called it Demonic Possession.
Same thing, different name – same behaviour, different times....And in our own despair, against our will, Comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Agamemnon; by Aeschylus
Anonymous42I’m here for you!
I know, I need to get an exorcism…
I live in Massachusetts, Demons and Witches do exist!
Those whom deny this fact find themselves tied to a post with a pile of kindling and straw under their feet…
I have one of these on my front door! next to my black star and B.C.F.C. bumpersticker. I don’t give a f~~~ what people think!
If there where any demons, women would posses them
not the other way around ;DBut in all seriousness though,
enough with this endless pursuit of unicorns.Many of us are stuck in the bargaining phase and never move past it.Women suck(that’s an understatement) and that dream you where told over and over again is a lie just like Santa.
The world is pretty cold, but once you realize it’s cold you just get a jacket and move on.
You could sit there being sad that it’s cold or theorize for years and years how some climate change can come and change things to “how they where”. But what’s the point?
Is this dream so important to you?
Is it really?
What ever happened to the spirit of romance and i don’t meant the bastardized romance we have today.
This romance does not include t~~~s, it includes you and your life journey.
If you died and you could’ve written a book on how you lived would you like the story?It’s time you reignited your chest friend.
Don’t worry about the rest, your own flame will warm you.- AuthorPosts
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