With enough imagination, anything is possible.

[iMickey503Participant 12468]

I get a phone call at 1am from my son, saying he is home alone and his mom left him there and would not take him with her. He tells me he is sacred and would like to go to my moms house.

Sounds good right? Well No.. You see, this is Kidnaping.

And not only that, its TOTALLY COOL with CPS of Oregon.

I would have never thought that this would be okay to threaten a 10 year old not to call anyone or tell anyone that he is home alone or call his father.

But it IS cool to threaten to beat your kid, Spank him , and Ground him for being scared to be home alone from 11PM to 9AM.

Not only that, its OKAY to lie to him that someone is watching him.

And Better yet, a good idea to leave him at home with no phone at 1am in the morning.

Now, I wonder, sitting in CA, what the HELL is going on.

So my mom goes to the court house with my son, and they tell her they can DO NOTHING.

Now, we know a LAW has been broken, a KID is SCARED to go back home to his mother, but now we have the POLICE saying he has to go back and CPS.

Now they were cool when I called them at 1am and said, Is it okay to pick up my son from his moms house, no one is there, and he is sacred, and I cant call mom and there is not phone there, he had to go walking around outside at 1am to go find a WIFI signal to call me with his phone… (more on that later)

So, Apparently, its ALL COOL. And they knew they were going to leave, but did not tell anyone he was going to be left home alone.

So mom just spring this on him, and Boom.

So what does CPS have to say about this? “SHE IS A GREAT MOTHER” – According to my mom who spoke with the CPS person, but NEVER called me. Weird right?

So if a KIDS scared to go back home, its all cool. Kids are OKAY to be sacred with their moms. CPS says so.

When they tell you they are depressed, its all good.

WHen they tell you they want to kill themselves. Its good too!

Now when you call the CPS hotline ans ask them what to do? THey seem to have ZERO advice as soon as they find out MOM has custody.

They were more interested in where he was then what happned. I mean the LADY refused for me to talk tot her SUPERVISOR.

I don’t even have words for this, and of course I recorded the conversation. SHE WAS OUTRIGHT LIKE WHOA Dad caught her, WHAT DO WE DO TO COVER IT!

I mean last time they sent me a FAKE email address to send pictures and videos.

Now, I have the custody hearing in a week.. And I have to wonder What the hell the judge is going to do now.

I been trying to just get a hold of my sons and MY OWN CPS record and they STILL won’t give it to me.

I was even set up by her lawyer to break the Protection order for visitation that was set up, and to add icing on the cake, I had a JUDGE TELL ME POINT BLANK that I can be arrested at ANY TIME during my Visit if she feels I am not following HER RULES (that are not even written down, there just whatever she thinks about)

So let me get this straight. She has to pick the person to do visitation, then if she does not, no fault of hers.

If I want to talk to our son, I have to have her permission.

If he feels bad, or wants to call cuz he is depressed, or mad or angry, he can’t. He gets grounded.

THis next week, (after it has been rescheduled 3 times already) I get to see the judge for the final hearing.

I thought I was going to bring specialist, and people and doctors, but I found out something. As long as CPS keeps saying that his Mother is A GREAT MOM. There is ZERO chance. And if I don’t have those records, again, ZERO CHANCE.

I only got one legal option. I plan to take that route.

You know, I try harder then ever to be there for my kid. Then everything I do, just makes it worse for him.

I hate to say this. But I think its about time I just walk away.

This is Killing me. And you know, the only option here is Jail time for me if I step in. And an arrest warrant.

Well. I guess I got 4 years before he can leave there at 14. TO bad I will miss most of it.

I never wanted to admit this, but for once. I think its best to just walk away.

I am tired. Every other thing I prove I am not doing (drugs, being crazy, they just throw another allegation, I’m back at square one.

You know, whats the worst thing about all of this? You get in trouble for doing nothing, and its the same a if you did something.

Its been a hard shame for me when I get pulled over just to be told “Do you know you have a Protection order with Lisa Pelham!

Um Yea THanks, Do you have anyone in your car?

so this is how they ruin dates for the rest of your life as well.

Not to mention, it f~~~s up your chances for many jobs, and so much more.

And if you try to fight it, they just serve you another one. Over and Over.

Just for picking up my son for visitation that my lawyer SAID IS COULD I get arrested.

Man, when I first got here, I thought there was hope. I can now firmly say, there is no hope for the regular guy out there if you’re from Portland Oregon.

I have to wonder, if I has just kept my mouth shut, never said anything, let this all play out. Kept silent.

I would be home right now, spending time with my son, going out for Ice cream, Bulding solar pannels, and making wind turbines in the back yard.

We could have been riding bikes. Going to the beach. And yes the bed time story or watching Neil talk about the universe.

For the record, Karma, Jesus, god, Ala, whatever you want to call it. There is no being, no force that is going to stop a woman from f~~~ing up your life or your dreams.

All I Ever wanted was to be a father and have a family. And now that was taken away from me.

The other thing I wanted, was to be with the woman I loved since highschool. And little did I know, I was just being used and was never loved back, respected, or even treated kindly or justly.

If you want to know the fastest way to get over something like this?

Start helping other men. I have done so much good in California and San Francisco.

It makes you forget for just a little while the pain. I don’t know why it won’t go away.

Its going to come up to a year since my son was taken away.

And in that amount of time, I was able to do nothing.

So, I hope this does not waste anyones time. I just wanted to let you know, you can save every penny, work every job, do everything you can to make money, and follow all the laws, and rules, and it will get you nowhere.

I really have to wonder. If I follow my background, I am Hindu. We believe in reincarnation.

I ask myself sometimes. What the hell I did wrong in my past lifetime to deserve a life like this. I know this is petty, but I must of been some really bad kind of guy.

If this is my first time, and there is a god? I wonder if it really is a woman. Cuz this kind of suffering could only be masterminded by being so cruel.

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[bladeParticipant]

My kid is in hospital after going to kill herself . Just found out last night . Been in for three days already . Black eye five weeks ago with cops involved . Better of doing s~~~ yourself .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[bladeParticipant]

I know the pain you talk of . In the chest . It will subside in time bro . That physical pain is f~~~ing bad . What ever you do don’t drink . It will make it worse the next day . I feal for ya bro and understand . The system is a f~~~ing joke and so are woman . F~~~ them all .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[hollowtipsParticipant 681]

It amazes me to see the extent men have been demonized by society and how we’ve allowed s~~~ to be so out of hand. So many circumstances where the mother is proven to be incompetent or even a danger to her child but they insist on the child staying with her instead of with the father. If men were actually as dangerous as society made us out to be their would be no civilization. 90% of us are chill and responsible.

[RedDawnParticipant 1391]

It is indeed a s~~~ situation. Sounds like it’s healthier for you not to hit your head against a wall bro. Think of the ‘long game’, one day when your son is older you might be able to go off and do fun stuff together. In the mean time I think exercise is what’s gonna help you through this. I fixed my bike recently and it’s relaxing going for a ride or a walk, get ones self out of the house and out into nature. It gives you a sense of context, that we are something small in a much bigger world ripe for discovery.

My son’s mother is getting brazen with me, she’s been withholding him from me, in breach of an agreement. So now my options are spend a heap of money to get a court order or not see him for the time being. Personally I might just get a shark lawyer to send her a letter. I feel your pain fellas.

Courage is the key to life itself - Morgan Freeman

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

No, no, no.

If your son calls you at 1am because his mother is out, etc, you tell him to hang up from you and dial the police 911, etc.

As men we screw up and think we handle things.

A policeman/detective changes things.

I live in the USA. My ex-wife left our son to go have fun and didn’t go to work. Her work called police and filed a missing person (thinking I killed her. She had filled their heads with how bad I was, etc)

When the policeman came to my work to investigate, I called her cell and she answered. Told the cop she was fine, etc.

I explained the situation to policeman. He said that he could file a report of child abandonment. Tada!

Peace brothers

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

My point is that we think our word is enough. We can fix it….

She is using the system against you.

You are fighting her. Big mistake.

Your son has to get authorities involved. That way it isn’t about you.

As men we have to cut the cord. Your son, at this stage, has no father.

Peace brothers

[iMickey503Participant 12468]

THank you for the kind words.

Police did nothing of the 7 times and the 3 times he was left home alone even though a Strict law of no kids under 9 are to be left unattended in the home. Nothing happned, and my lawyer said, “well if they say its okay, its okay”- Landerholm Law Portland Oregon

All they do is call mom, and tell her to come home. That’s it. Even with a report filed by one officer with CPS. Nothing came of it.

I did call the police, and my son has no phone, and his mother will not allow him to have one. So calling the police, is out as well from his end. And Most of the time they turn of the internet or take away his phone for “punishment” .

Actually, last time the police got involved it was with him ending up with Bruises, and a sore neck from being choked and held by the neck by the police officer when he was screaming and trying to get away from them.

Blade, I was there too man. Full on Police investigation, and Nothing happned. They just dropped the case just cuz mom asked. Bro, I have NO idea why they keep letting this happen. They all see it, we scream about it, and no action is taken.

I was told the only way to get around this, is to sue the state. That way the money leaving the coughers means someone is going to make them pay attention. However, I have not seen a case filed unless there was like wrongful death, or something along those lines. Sadly, Abuse is not enough.

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[iMickey503Participant 12468]

Darksith: He has, they won’t listen. The school Davis Elementary even kept it quiet from CPS as well. Same thing. Even REFUSED to talk to me, and after just being on the property once, sited me with a no trespassing order.

You are right about the no father part.

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[Dr. HammerParticipant 70]

If you have the money and the right attorney, you can make something happen in your favor. It may take time. These guys are a national men’s rights law firm. They might be able to help. http://cordellcordell.com/

My ex took my two sons 1100 miles away and there was nothing I could do. Yeah, I wanted to quit. Pretty much every day. However, I persisted because I wanted them to know I was fighting for them. I didn’t want them to ask me, “Why didn’t you ever try to get me back?” So, I fought but that doesn’t mean I was winning. I just kept at it, feeling like Sisyphus. After two years, my oldest had had enough of his mother and I got him back and I started to receive child support. So, the impossible is possible.

"Once you start focusing on moving towards something positive instead of away from something negative, you can truly begin to live."

[iMickey503Participant 12468]

hollowtips wrote:

It amazes me to see the extent men have been demonized by society and how we’ve allowed s~~~ to be so out of hand. So many circumstances where the mother is proven to be incompetent or even a danger to her child but they insist on the child staying with her instead of with the father. If men were actually as dangerous as society made us out to be their would be no civilization. 90% of us are chill and responsible.

I have to wonder, besides Thomas Ball, who just set his own ass on fire. has there been any fathers that have just went Berserk?

So far I have not seen ONE instance of any man actually doing anything violent to the state or CPS or to anyone that was involved or their parties.

Its seems that they have a bank on men NOT being violent and punishing those that are not willing to do anything violent or uprise against the state.

The last guy I knew that tried died of a heart attack. That was the guy who was making the movie about Oregon’s child abuse and deaths of the foster kids.

It seems a lot of these people who fight CPS end up getting murdered. Like that one lady senator, and her husband?

And Strangely, nothing ever came of it.

I really think it is just a small matter of time now. I have talked to so many fathers, and the story is always the same.

Its strange the people who work at these places seem to be immune to any wrong doing? Or have security that rivals some federal offices.

That can’t be a coincidence. Even the practices that places like CPS use are up there with the CIA / NSA.

And there is ZERO accountability?

When they screw up, or something happens, they just don’t say anything.

Same with the special police tasks forces that investigate child sex crimes, and abuse?

With all that has gone on, why is it that men like us are being shafted left and right with no accountability? I mean they work a lot more like the Federal Reserve then they do a government office.

Fathers get blamed for all this child abuse, but the woman in these organizations that run the offices don’t have to take any responsibility? And neither do the men that head them either.

I hear a lot of guys say: “If something happens to my kids”…

Well it already has for some fathers. And when the questions are asked, they are no answers. Just a “Sorry old fellow, just do it all over again with another woman,(and we will see you in this court VERY soon again!)

If you added up all the men and fathers out there that have been punished, and their kids as well… You have to wonder why there has been nothing done about it?

Males on or about make up 50% of the population or around that. Why does this issue never seem to gain any traction?

I mean I have been to the offices, where they sit there and stall and lie to you, and tell you its all going to be fine, then f~~~ you over as soon as you leave. Even REFUSING TO SEE YOU, while you are at the office with your son?

THen even LYING TO YOU about what is going on?

It makes you wonder, what if you thought outside the box? How could it be that none of these people have any backlash for all that they are apart of?

Men being violent.. How about Women making sure nothing is done about it? That’s sure seem like a way bigger issue then men hurting their kids.

Most of the time, a woman is making sure that a man with this kind of behavior is welcomed to her children.

Actually, from what I have read so far, most of the time, it takes a MOM ADMITTING that there was wrongdoing, abuse, and participation by her, and others, having to be 100% on her part VOLUNTARILY in order to even get a woman just brought up on charges. And even then, I wonder if they are punishing her for admitting it was her, and not the crime itself in my opinion.

I will go Further, and go as so far to say that Law enforcement goes OUT OF THEIR WAY to make sure to NOT have to deal or hold accountable any mothers or females involved.

When I was sitting in on a day of hearings with Judge McKnight, you could see all the woman smiling with glee that came in there. They were HAPPY to be there. The men, not so much.

And then some of the phone in court hearings were so damn laughable, you have to wonder how it was possible for some of these men to get in trouble for having girlfriends? I am serious, she felt threatened by her ex boyfriend’s new girlfriend, and wanted to put the order on him again and extend it?

I have to say, after This May, I Don’t know what I am going to do. But at this point, if that judge tells me that Everything that has ever happned in the last 18 years to my kids, and that has happned to my family is just nothing to be worried about officialy from the state’s Family court judge?

Then its time to make sure that people know just what is okay to do in oregon in a big way.

I might be the ONLY man in oregon willing to take on the system head on, but fine. I got nothing else to loose anymore. THey have already taken every last fiber of the things I cared about.

Well, they say its never a better time to start a business.

Its time I start making a solid plan on how to take advantage of the findings of CPS, and the family court system, and find a way to make money from my plentiful supply of misery.

If this is what they say constitutes a wonderful mother and family unit, I need to start selling kits to people on how to follow the guidelines that CPS actually endorses, and the people that made these determinations and how they can reach out to them for more advice.

I think that more people should know where to get their drugs, and family friendly pedophile endorsing homes, business, and churches.

Why keep all this hell to myself.

Sharing is Caring.

If people are willing to pay for useless lawyers, Why not pay for sponsorship for the Court events!

And we can spread that “Men are bad. Women are Great, and this is why they are not to date! ”

bottom line, if it starts to affect business in Oregon, Washington. Then they are going to have some kind of backlash on the family court system.

Think I better start my new thread on that. THanks guys for cheering me up and the ideas.

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[iMickey503Participant 12468]

Dr. Hammer wrote:

If you have the money and the right attorney, you can make something happen in your favor. It may take time. These guys are a national men’s rights law firm. They might be able to help. http://cordellcordell.com/

My ex took my two sons 1100 miles away and there was nothing I could do. Yeah, I wanted to quit. Pretty much every day. However, I persisted because I wanted them to know I was fighting for them. I didn’t want them to ask me, “Why didn’t you ever try to get me back?” So, I fought but that doesn’t mean I was winning. I just kept at it, feeling like Sisyphus. After two years, my oldest had had enough of his mother and I got him back and I started to receive child support. So, the impossible is possible.

I will look them up. My last lawyer cost me jail time. and about 16,000 in new costs, thanks to his EPIC negotiation skills.. I will give them a ring. But honestly, I don’t just want to get my kid back anymore. I want these people to understand just how many other men that CAN’t afford to defend themselves feel like.

I am in a great position in my life to finally just throw in the towel. I mean, crap, I have right now already missed out on a whole year of my sons life.

I have been put in Jail, and told that I have to PAY to see my kid and ONLY for 3 hours!

Try telling your kid he has to go back. But won;t even get out of the car.

Nope. I am done dealing with that kind of pain. I would rather have my sons see that I never backed down, and when told that I can only see him for 3 hours and only supervised, and even have him grounded for talking to me?

Yea, man this plan of action just feels right. You know, we need more fire crackers. The world is full of simmering stews and Mashed potatoes.

I reached 45,000 people with my sons video by advertising it.

Might as well spend more money and buy billboards. And these billboards are going to be the Talk of the town.

And a WORLDS FIRST!

Aren’t you guys tired of being handed the s~~~, and told to deal with it? Why is it everyone is so afraid to call them on their s~~~.

If I was told I got a limited time, might as well make the best damn footprint I can.

I don’t really have years. And I already lost out on one so far. Might as well do what makes me happy.

And that would be to showcase these people so that instead of me constantly being reminded that brainwashing is a punishable offense, I can take this to the next level and say that ALL COMERCIALS are BRAINWASHING, and judge can take your kids away if you let them watch them, so GET YOUTUBE RED! Or ELSE your kids will be taken away!

I want them to know what its like to be watched everyday, to be looked at as if you were a criminal, and be bullied by Proxy, just like they do.

I mean, if they say that all these things that have happned are qualities of a wonderful mother, and family.. People should know about this!

I am pretty sure printable “I love CHild Molseters!” bumper stickers and WIndow Decals are going to take off Very soon.

The one that says: I HEART Child abuse!”

I want a a special one for Portland area Police departments that say: I ignore CHild abuse so you don;t have too!

Oh and CPS. Man, the Ideas are just flowing like a mexican sewer pipe.

You can;t criminalize the sale of these goods. Just the application, But if happens to smack on your car when they are at starbucks, or During protests, Why not!

And if you give them away for free, or even as clothes for less fortunate kids and mothers at shelters, even better!

Heck if they make you pay for bags at the grocery store, how about handing out free bags that have my logos on them, and pictures and faces etc!

There are a million ways to help us MGTOW men. And Damm it, if I was told, stress is killing me. Time to find something I enjoy doing and Roll with it.

Drug additcs pan handle all day. If I say this shirt will give you more money, and it does, THEN F~~~ IT! LETS DO IT!.

THere is a shop here in SF that will print T shirts for 5 bucks.

Its time I make 20 of them and display them on people here in SF as a test run.

Women are starting to get hip to this kind of video content.

Lets make a judge show called Family Farts!

We can showcase Real Broken men, and then have the judges read the orders they were given, but have “video eveidicne” of the abuse, and make it so that the women laugh at how cool it is to be so Progrsive about child abuse etc. It has to be funny, but in a VERY dark and SAD way.

We need to promote it as Femisim taking the power back from men, and get women to all upvote it just so we thow an episode on there that makes women look worse and worse.

Eventitly, we will have kids on there, and we can have the judge smile and say, “Hey, You got a GOOD MOM right there” I would have made sure you suffered MORE!

I mean once you get this killer large audinace, you drop the MGTOW bomb.

I get we got a lot of good Mgtow channels. But its time we start pushing how to get mainstream now. And get men the HELP the need. Or at the very least, the confidence to speak up.

Also, there are more then a few kids out there, that could use a laugh.

Kind of like Lemony Snicket’s twist.

Well the school bared me from being on the gronds, so I will have an ice cream truck give out free icecream and Popsciles.

WIth our Very Freindly message of my own. Turn in this prize to the principal to have your dad taken away FOR FREE YOU WIN!

Or, the very true, of my sons school, “were Number one for being the VERY LAST!”

I also want a t shirt that says, “I ONLY get my drugs from DOctors! (basically a dual meaning there)

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