Will MGTOW parallel society in the future

[Lazarus LongParticipant 365]

I was reading FullMetalExo’s introduction and how he has not had any real personal experiences only viewing the things that have happened to others and it got me thinking about the future of MGTOW and I was hoping to get some opinions on this thought.

So what I meant by the title is that at least in America we set out with a new ideal that we could govern ourselves and ensure freedoms by codifying these freedoms into the core of our society, and that the attempt to escape oppression was baked into every citizen (more or less). Over the years however the populous has degenerated to the point that we are rapidly heading right back into the type of tyranny and oppression that our forefathers were attempting to escape from and possibly worse. I see this as having many reasons but it seems to me that the biggest reason is that the people who have not had to fight the tyranny and oppression have a much harder time recognizing the path to tyranny because they have not experienced it directly and because the education system has been taken over by those who want the power of Tyranny.

Back to MGTOW I wonder if we will get to a point where the lessons learned will be forgotten and eventually Man will slip back into this matriarchal oppression that we currently find ourselves in.

Any thoughts brothers?

Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self. -Terry Goodkind

[Wallace_BanqouoParticipant 13]

The lessons learned will never be forgotten, for the concept of masculinity is something men are born with.  Statistically speaking, there will always be outliers that deviate from the norm.  There will always be those who look upon the past with fondness, and realize the true nature of the world.
Many do not realize why the world is as it is, and instead are focused upon themselves, with little regard to others.  This is a maladaptive theory of mind, or -to not speak in psychology babble- they are unable to understand that people have thoughts and feelings different from themselves.  The moment someone breaks this barrier and understands everyone is different, they are on their way to becoming a red piller.
If the femminists get their way, I feel there will be an exodus of old-fashioned men (and women) from any country supporting them.  That would result in a complete breakdown of the nuclear family, resulting in more LGBTQ folks, extreme female promiscuity, and declining birth rates.  In short, a breakdown of society as we know it.
Of course, I’m thinking absolute worse case scenario, but if history has proven anything, it is that the future is stranger than anything we can think of.

[almostFreeParticipant 4]

to Lazarus

I think there is truth to your words, at the moment one of the main reasons men come to mgtow is bad experiences with women, if in the future mgtow phenomenon grows and women will start changing their behavior to attract men, than some part of men will fall for them. Not all of course.  But that’s the problem with all movements witch basis is on opposing something – once the opposed force  disappears there is no reason left to gather for. I think that mgtow can be more than this, that men can actually gather together not on basis on opposing feminism or traditionalism (or other forms of male servitude to women) but on basis of  brotherhood or manhood maybe 🙂 For this kind of reason it wouldn’t matter what women or society could do in the future.

[Lazarus LongParticipant 365]

Thank you both for your thoughts.

Wallace_Banqouo wrote:

The lessons learned will never be forgotten, for the concept of masculinity is something men are born with.

I do agree with you in that the concept of masculinity is something we are born with but I am not sure that we can realistically say that the lessons learned will never be forgotten. When I first started pondering this question I began to look at history and I see several instances where we have forgotten what has happened and what has been learned is lost. That is really the part that I was concerned about. I obviously do not expect this to be anything that happens quickly but over three or four generations I could see it happening just as people used to save money and do for themselves around the Great Depression. They taught their children these same values but people become complacent when the threat does not seem to exist at their doorstep. I truly hope I am wrong though.

almostFree wrote:

I think that mgtow can be more than this, that men can actually gather together not on basis on opposing feminism or traditionalism (or other forms of male servitude to women) but on basis of  brotherhood or manhood maybe

I too see this possibility and their have been groups of this nature in the past that do still exist though they do not hold the sway they used to. I hope that we can forge a real and lasting brotherhood that can help men realize their potential and better themselves.

Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self. -Terry Goodkind

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Lazarus Long wrote:

Back to MGTOW I wonder if we will get to a point where the lessons learned will be forgotten

A complete and total collapse would have to happen first for men to suddenly get amnesia. The post feminism man is aware of the WELL-KNOWN and WELL-DOCUMENTED TRUE nature of women that feminism has exposed to the world. MGTOW have been around for centuries but now – possibly for the first time in recorded history – men have awoken to the repeat and documented / recorded realities of unbridled female greed, manipulation , selfishness and toxicity.

Some men will always be blind to it but we won’t.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

Hear hear, KM. Lately I was pondering about a valid counter argument about the “who was initially responsible for the world wide economic crisis..?” kind of question. Slightly off-topic here, ok hands up I admit, so if you want to move this post of mine into a different much more suitable thread, then by all means do so. Anyway, I got my thoughts together about this, because clearly the classical argument would point towards the greedy men (as friggin’ usual, wouldn’t “they” know it…?). But wait…  … greedy men..? Who was most presumably standing just right behind and backing if not even demanding all of that male greed…? It probably wasn’t the pets or pet dogs, who demanded bigger bones or larger fish tanks or better cat food now was it..? Nope, bigger and more exclusive and more valuable diamonds and/or bigger houses were in much higher demand during the very big stock exchange ralley prior to the final bust in 2008 and guess made by whom..?  Go figure…

Ned T.

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

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