Why You Must Always Ask “What’s In It For Me?”

[RoyDalParticipant]

Why You Must Always Ask “What’s In It For Me?”
http://www.returnofkings.com/44709/whats-in-it-for-me

I witnessed another man using “what’s in it for me” to squelch a conversation. Some bitches (M & F) were trying to get him to “man up” and find a bride. None of them had an answer to what’s in it for him, except to prevent loneliness in his old age. I’d have thought they would have thought it through in advance before launching into him, but, no, they were running on pure reflex.

Anyway, forcing them to think caused them all to shut up. … until next time. But, that’s his problem. They are his friends, not mine.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Deus Ex MachinaParticipant 1068]

Excellent article,

I highly recommend every Guy read it, then re-read it again. Some great points were made as well!.

"If You have the Tooth of a Whale, You must have the Whale's Jaw to hold it". (i.e. One Must have the right qualifications for leadership) -Hawaiian Proverb

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Thank you once again!

Especially the emphasis on ….

Never do favors for women without reciprocation. Period.

Exclamation point.

/video/mgtow-school/

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[mgtow_85Participant 752]

When you ask, “What’s In It For Me”, you’ve already won the debate.

The woman doesn’t even know how to respond after that because the best interests of the MAN have never come to their mind as something important or in existence. Any excuse they do have to give is half-assed after that, and it’s like trying to save the Hindenburg from crashing in flames as they try to save face.

“Oh, the humanity!”

Oh, wait, I’d be LONELY in my old age? Nah…not possible. Alzheimer’s runs in my family, so I’d be 85 years old and probably thinking that I’m still 25 and living in a dream or something. I wouldn’t even be aware of the status of the people around me or who the hell they are. So if I’m going to be losing my memory in another half-century, the best I can do is live it up here and now, and I have too much s~~~ to do to think about loneliness. Yeah, women cannot win when they’d play the “you’ll be lonely” card. No, I just won’t be divorced and paying lifetime alimony, that’s all.

Try asking, “What’s in it for me?” The women will sputter and stammer and try to think up a good response and you’ll be grinning because they’ll look like they’re making complete asses out of themselves.

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

Hmm, the phrase “What’s in it for me..?” most definitely is a good start but you can even top that up by saying: “Men don’t owe anything to women.!”

See in the next following article that I found underneath the one you mentioned above. They are each, in their own right, very good indeed but both of their essences combined maybe the icing on the cake. Here is the link to the other article (oh, and do try to ignore the alpha behavior aspect of it mentioned within that article if you can):

http://www.returnofkings.com/25652/women-dont-owe-you-anything

One comment underneath that article is especially worth mentioning and it’s that of “Tom” saying (get this):

“Women don’t owe you anything”.
•    Hmm. OK. No problem. I understand that. Fortunately, there is nothing a woman has that a man can’t otherwise get for himself.
•    And I do mean… NOTHING.
•    If a woman has no sense of obligation or duty, its’ hardly a tragedy. A man can just pick another one, pay her and get exactly what he wants, any time of day or night. Even then, he can still go without. There is nothing a woman can give him that he absolutely *needs*.
•    Now say: “Men don’t owe women anything” and watch what happens.
•    If every man dropped his sense of obligation and the feeling of “owing” society out of sheer duty TODAY… within 7 days, women everywhere would be sucking dicks in public just to BEG to get ANY man to take her garbage away and turn the water back on.
•    Even when she’s finished sucking your dick, you get to look her right in the eye and say: “Men STILL don’t owe you anything.”
•    “Men don’t owe women anything” is an INFINITELY more powerful statement than the opposite. It all starts with learning the value of the word “no”. Then just sit back and watch them FREAK.
•    The reason “men don’t owe women anything” is such a threat is because there are men out there DYING and laboring like SLAVES to provide women with the basics of life that they take for granted. If women have no sense of obligation or duty, life still goes on. But take away a man’s sense of duty and you will get TOTAL F~~~ING ANARCHY.
•    Pray it never happens, ladies…”

 

Well, I guess this sums it up and upon that part that’s exactly were we come in, gentlemen …

 

Ned T.

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[KeymasterKeymaster]

That’s fascinating.

I suppose now would be a good time to tell you….

I am “Tom” the commenter from Return of Kings.

Yes, really.

It sure is a thrill to see my own words brought back to me – without anyone knowing.
Thanks Ned. I can’t thumb that up enough. Big smile over here.
I have not been active over there since we opened.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

Errrm ooops (smirk)!

Oh my my my, wow. Well, gimme 5 then, KM, snap!  I should’ve figured, it sounded very much like you anyway, as short as I’ve been “knowing” you so far…   😉

Anyway, never mind. My pleasure to unintentionally bring back some memories, bro’ …

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Good Eye. Anyone who wanted to know… already would. The writing style is too similar, easy to spot, and I have even preserved sentences exactly among a small few of our articles here (which were written by me). In fact I am surprised not a soul has asked.

I think ROK already knows because I / we are doing a feature on them ,which I din’t want to say anything about just yet. When we contacted them and asked for a high-res logo and for some names of their authors and told them “Tom” is doing the feature… they dropped what they were doing to help us and sent what we needed IMMEDIATELY. The are VERY respectful good bunch of guys and treated me well.

I think Gabriel Knight already figured it out. He joined here recently and keeps in active contact once in a while – favoriting us on Twitter etc. But he hasn’t said anything. So if any of the Kings know… they are all gentlemen for keeping it to themselves.

Im blown away myself , Ned. You paid me a huge compliment today.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

@ Keymaster: a feature as in a feature film..? No, or is it..? Ok, ok now I see/understand it wouldn’t be a film I guess.

As far as the “huge compliment” is concerned likewise you gave it right back to me, cheers for that. And regarding the fact that you came up with this honesty of yours only obliges me to the same thing at this point hopefully not spoiling it for myself, because in my introduction I was a bit say “economical with the full truth”. Explanation: I hardly had any relationship worth mentioning with any girl or woman in my entire life or to put it another way I am what you guys actually refer to as a TFLer (I guess I had to get that off my chest now appologies for the delay but I am always a bit careful when it comes to choosing new pals…).

Now, given the prejudice that prevails about TFLers are typically supposed to be only a blowjob away from turning into a white knight mangina, well the way I meanwhile see it with regards to myself is a bit like this:

A) I guess by now I have turned my own former misery (being a TFLer) into a virtue, you might have heard about that German expression before “aus der Not eine Tugend machen”

and

B) I imagine myself a bit like a somewhat admittedly “blind man” albeit by now very much underrating Sex to protect myself or cultivating the attitude (expressed metaphorically): “Why should a man who is like blind from birth miss to see colors, he has only been told about by numerous “seeing folks” around him, but which he never could really imagine or saw in the first place..?”

So based on those two points I still think and am convinced that I can maintain a red pill status for myself as long as I’ll never lose the very rationality of my own thoughts no matter what might happen (ie. one night stand or something without actively pursuing it).

For a few years I was registered with a forum of other TFLers and man you wouldn’t believe just how many are there these days. Whilst it was predominantly frequented by mostly blue pill guys quite desperate and hopful, I guess I ultimately turned out to be the odd one out in that respect but guess what..? Only recently by chance I carefully shared some info and the link to this website to another one selected member of that other forum, who I know, after within some thread of that forum I dropped a very vague hint that there is some group out there which is somewhat neutrally ambivalent about women. Of course none of the others in that forum believed there was even such a forum as ours except for this guy. Anyway it turned out I effectively albeit subtly sort of recruited him, he was grateful for my hints and I am pretty sure he has only recently joined in here as well, talking about lots of TFLers out there like hiding potential MGTOWs (if their characters are strong enough that is but anyway…). At this point I won’t give out his member name but he hasn’t made any introduction yet anyway and for the time being is mostly fascinated whilst lurking learning and reading a lot in here and outside. So yeah now the cat is out of the box, guys…

Ned T.

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[KeymasterKeymaster]

No not a “feature film”. When I say “feature” I mean like one of our videos and articles in the homepage feature area.

ROK actually was there when the old MGTOW Forums wouldn’t let me in and banned me — TWICE. For no reason and with no explanation. Imagine signing up for a MGTOW site – a place where you FINALLY feel like you belong with a group of like-minded guys – and then some f~~~ing asshole tells you to get lost because he didn’t like your intro, and he won’t even give you reason or explanation. TWICE.

It gutted me, really.

I couldn’t even read anymore, because my IP was blocked.
I was “banned” for no goddam reason without typing a single word or breaking a single rule.

ROK were the guys who accepted me…. and even when I broke their most PROMINENT rule (“respond to a female commenter and you will get banned immediately”)…. they let me stay, even when I knew I broke the rule. They held me in the HIGHEST esteem for my contributions and participation – even when I deserved to have my ass kicked out.

We are looking for a way to say “thanks” in our own way.

Then I learned the previous MGTOW Forums shut down.
And that’s how MGTOW.com came to pass.

So be kind to your fellow man. And never burn bridges.
Today’s junior prick. Tomorrow’s senior partner.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

Keymaster wrote:

Imagine signing up for a MGTOW site – a place where you FINALLY feel like you belong with a group of like-minded guys – and then some f~~~ing asshole tells you to get lost because he didn’t like your intro, and he won’t even give you reason or explanation.

And that’s exactly the “risk” (or is it?) I’ve just taken, so do read the addition in my previous post again, man…

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[RoyDalParticipant]

I still say there is nothing in it for me!

MGTOW: Selling marriage to men – “It makes you better providers!”
— Raging Golden Eagle

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

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