Why would anyone bring kids into this messed up world?

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

I say this as a parent of a grown child who is almost 27. The world has changed a lot since he was born. Im grateful to have a son and proud of his accomplishments as he finishes medical school.
But I look around at coworkers and others popping out new ones left and right. The world is a f~~~ed up mess and not getting better. It’s getting so it just may be selfish to bring new humans into this mess.

[Anonymous 3]

I fully agree with you.

And especially a son. I would never want to bring another male into this world. If I was forced to have kids, I would only want daughters, because at least they could enjoy their lives and live a decent life if they so choose.

[thisistheguy123Participant 2063]

I disagree, actually, I made a woman cry this past Friday over the same topic.

The world has always been messed up, I mean – men finished fighting in World Wars and came home to have kids.
Do you think they thought “I don’t want my kid dying in a war”?
Maybe, but they did it anyways because it was part of their role in society

Sure, things have changed; greatly.

But the continuation of a species must continue…Or we just end up like Idiocracy and only the low IQ ones have kids, while the top IQ ones don’t
…That won’t make the world better at all

I for one would love a kid, a wife…not so much

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

A sizable portion of those who are farting out kids today are well aware that they can’t afford to raise them. These are perilous times and I am not sick enough nor stupid enough to beget a child into this gynocentric asylum!

[narwhalParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

I fully agree with you.

And especially a son. I would never want to bring another male into this world. If I was forced to have kids, I would only want daughters, because at least they could enjoy their lives and live a decent life if they so choose.

I have a son and daughter and disagree. My son can go MGTOW and be happy. My daughter, does she just act like a man? Does she try and go the traditional route? How does she stay committed to a man and loyal to a man when the whole world tells him she should treat him like crap, and tell her she has to be independent to be a real woman.

My son can say no. What exactly does my daughter say no to?

But in the sentiment of the thread, is the world my kids live in a better world then mine? TBD.

Ok. Then do it.

[TattooDaveParticipant 6952]

I love my children I had two daughters one of them is 28 the others 31. To be honest I would not have kids. The world really is way too messed up to bring children into. This is an unparalleled time in history and I wouldn’t want to be responsible for anyone but myself at this point maybe things will change but I’m guessing not.

I’m glad there are other people that agree with me I hear Sandman and a couple of other people talking about artificial wombs why the why would you want that. Why would you want to bring children into a world like this? Don’t be retarded

I can see their heads have been twisted and fed with worthless foam from the mouth. Bob d

[Anonymous 3]

narwhal wrote:

phoenix wrote:

I fully agree with you.

And especially a son. I would never want to bring another male into this world. If I was forced to have kids, I would only want daughters, because at least they could enjoy their lives and live a decent life if they so choose.

I have a son and daughter and disagree. My son can go MGTOW and be happy. My daughter, does she just act like a man? Does she try and go the traditional route? How does she stay committed to a man and loyal to a man when the whole world tells him she should treat him like crap, and tell her she has to be independent to be a real woman.

My son can say no. What exactly does my daughter say no to?

But in the sentiment of the thread, is the world my kids live in a better world then mine? TBD.

Your daughter can do whatever she wants, all of society will praise her and provide for her in great comfort. She is set. She doesn’t have to do a thing and it won’t matter what she does decide to do.

Your son can say no, and society will ostracize him and constantly demand he labor and then marry and then submit to a woman. Sure he can say no, but he will be attacked the entire way. And then even if he does give in, he’ll still be attacked some more and pushed around.

This world hates men with a passion. But it absolutely loves women.

[TuneoutParticipant]

thisistheguy123 wrote:

I disagree, actually, I made a woman cry this past Friday over the same topic.

The world has always been messed up, I mean – men finished fighting in World Wars and came home to have kids.
Do you think they thought “I don’t want my kid dying in a war”?
Maybe, but they did it anyways because it was part of their role in society

Sure, things have changed; greatly.

But the continuation of a species must continue…Or we just end up like Idiocracy and only the low IQ ones have kids, while the top IQ ones don’t
…That won’t make the world better at all

I for one would love a kid, a wife…not so much

Today though you can’t even discipline your kids properly (WTF is a ‘time out’,lol) in school too it is lacking as well as pressure to achieve and succeed but then they are assaulted with all this ‘inclusive’ bs at an early age – too early to choose between three washrooms IMO.

I think the species as it is does not deserve to continue – we have few redeeming qualities- and eventually we will find a way to destroy our selves –
unless a meteor does it first.

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

[JimBoLeaParticipant 1891]

WE HERE IN AMERICA HAD A TV SHOW CALLED “ALL IN THE FAMILY” WITH CAROL OCONNER “ARCHY BUNKER” JEAN STAPLETON “EDITH BUNKER” SALLY STRUTHERS AS DAUGHTER AND ROB REINER AS HUSBAND TO DAUGHTER. ONE EPISODE DELT WITH NOT HAVING KIDS TO GROW UP IN A CURUPTED WORLD, THAT EPISODE REALLY HIT ME HARD. THIS WAS BEFORE I WAS A DIABETIC IN THE EARLY 70’S. HOW COULD I IMPREGNATE A GIRL AND HAVE TO MARRY HER TO SUPPORT THEM BOTH, THAT WAS A BIG ANCOR AND CHAIN AROUND ME, THAT AND CATCHING WHATEVER WAS FLOATING AROUND, AT THE TIME, AIDS WAS JUST MAKING AN APPEARANCE , AS WELL AS THE STD’S.

YES; THIS WORLD IS A MESS, IT’S UP TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT. I VOTED FOR A MAN THAT HAS SAID HE WILL CHANGE ALOT OF STUFF. I HOPE AND PRAY THAT HE DOES.
I’M TIRED OF SEEING SMALL SHOPS AND BUISNESSESS CLOSE UP.
I MISS A SMALL SHOP THAT WAS AROUND WHEN I WAS GROWING UP. TO MANY PLACES ARE JUST GIVING UP THE GHOST AND LETTING THE BIG BOX STORES TAKE OVER.

LILITH IS THE HEAD SUCCUBUS AND SHE LIVES ON THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

[anonymousyamParticipant 4605]

I disagree mostly with this with it being on the basis that humanity has never been a magical place and risks have always existed for as long as man.

Having kids in the past meant they could possibly die young at a higher rate or they will slave themselves away in a factory under conditions that can kill them young or having a high morality rate on the job.

Having kids today simply means they will have to deal with riots and the feminists who will go and try to oppress us more solely because they are angry at the fact that they could not have gotten their cake and eat it too (meaning they cannot go on the c~~~ carousel yet demand a high earning husband or at this rate any husband who is not just gonna divorce rape them).

This world has always been messed up and will always be messed up but if you decide to have kids it is more about teaching them to survive in this world and having them not get f~~~ed over (especially boys).

Hopefully by the time i decide to have kids (maybe a few decades from now if ever) marriage won’t be an option in the boys lives (because f~~~ having daughters they either turn into cat ladies or sluts). Surely marriage is not an option for me and i am on the young scale of mgtow what happens in the future we must wait to see but personally i believe it has to deal more with the death of marriage and monogamy.

Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

[Anonymous 0]

I would not and never want childeren. I value my own progession, hobbies and money too highly for that, someone else can have childeren if they want.

[Anonymous 3]

Tuneout wrote:

Today though you can’t even discipline your kids properly (WTF is a ‘time out’,lol) in school too it is lacking as well as pressure to achieve and succeed but then they are assaulted with all this ‘inclusive’ bs at an early age

I would chip in after this great quote to say that now I would not have my 2 kids, even if I like them very much.

I feel that their start in life was handicapped, and they are less than half of what they could be.

The reason is that I could never be the father they needed, I could never raise them properly, as a result of my wife’s interference.
It got to a point, 12 years ago, where I made a choice: to be there for them to minimize the damage that was imposed on them.

I knew that if I divorced my wife I would have even less influence in their upbringing.

Unfortunately now I believe that I only succeeded in making myself equally guilty for this mess.

So, having kids today is equivalent to handing them to the enemy so that they can mold them to disaster, or even take revenge on you through them.

[Oz-BlokeParticipant 3233]

I’ve have similar thoughts to the OP. I think it’s natural when you see what the gynocracy and more broadly what mankind is doing to society are to the world. Then I selfishly think “I don’t have kids, so let someone else worry about the future”. Unless it impacts on my daily life, no f~~~s given.
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#ManOut

[Oz-BlokeParticipant 3233]

Wow, this Princess Breanna really has some form.

First this –
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http://s.orzzzz.com/news/2f/6c//5605060e905d8.jpg
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Then this –
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The girl who posted a smiling ‘Auschwitz selfie’ has done it again.

‘I wouldn’t do anything differently’: Teen who took selfie at Auschwitz is unrepentant as trend for grinning and pouting poses at memorials including Ground Zero grows
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Well, Princess Breanna is blonde after all …
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#ManOut

[EyeswideopenParticipant 2930]

I agree that throughout history times have never been ideal, or perfect, or utopian to have children. Either infant mortality was high, or world wars raged, or famine loomed, or plague was about.

That being said, as a man, these times are unique. Historically, children were seems as his “property”, the fruit of his loins, his legacy to mold and shape. The current laws in western society have stripped any power or ability for a man to protect and tutor his children. The mother has all the rights- the strongest bond in nature ~ mother and child has been strengthened.

Today, being a father is simply being an ATM. What influence you have on your children is at the whim of the mother and enforced by the law. For this reason I opted out. Yet I can appreciate what the OP stated.

- Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

[RennieParticipant]

The world is so different than it was growing up in the 90’s. It’s really sad to see. Back then it was still possible to have a normal childhood and people were alot different.

Back then you actually had to grow up, people were much better behaved and were kinder to others and less paranoid.

Now people are crazy, people don’t grow up, they use social media to try and become the worlds biggest jackasses. People are now extremely paranoid and nosy and are often very nasty and inconsiderate of others.

Women have made such a mess of this society. They have not hesitated to spread their colossal hatred of men to every aspect of it.

Not the kind of world I would want to raise any kids, especially males in.

[Buller100Participant 2189]

thisistheguy123 wrote:

I disagree, actually, I made a woman cry this past Friday over the same topic.

The world has always been messed up, I mean – men finished fighting in World Wars and came home to have kids.
Do you think they thought “I don’t want my kid dying in a war”?
Maybe, but they did it anyways because it was part of their role in society

Sure, things have changed; greatly.

But the continuation of a species must continue…Or we just end up like Idiocracy and only the low IQ ones have kids, while the top IQ ones don’t
…That won’t make the world better at all

I for one would love a kid, a wife…not so much

You make a great point about low IQ people breeding most,

[Anonymous 1]

I have a good mother, if my son can’t have one I am not gonna procreate.

[SamsquanchParticipant 4226]

Buller100 wrote:

thisistheguy123 wrote:

I disagree, actually, I made a woman cry this past Friday over the same topic.

The world has always been messed up, I mean – men finished fighting in World Wars and came home to have kids.
Do you think they thought “I don’t want my kid dying in a war”?
Maybe, but they did it anyways because it was part of their role in society

Sure, things have changed; greatly.

But the continuation of a species must continue…Or we just end up like Idiocracy and only the low IQ ones have kids, while the top IQ ones don’t
…That won’t make the world better at all

I for one would love a kid, a wife…not so much

You make a great point about low IQ people breeding most,

Joe Rogan did a bit on the low IQ people out breeding the intelligent people. He claims it’s already happened, which is why society is the way it is today. I agree with all of it.

[Anonymous 22]

Samsquanch wrote:

Joe Rogan did a bit on the low IQ people out breeding the intelligent people. He claims it’s already happened, which is why society is the way it is today. I agree with all of it.

I think it’s all done on purpose. They want the population to be as stupid as possible. That way they’re easier to control and the governments have free hands to do whatever they want without any real interference.

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