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I was reading Rollo Tomassi’s latest blog, about women’s preference for “Cads” over “Dads”, Alfa bad boys over Beta good guy providers.
Here:
http://therationalmale.com/2015/02/06/two-camps/
A society of both cad ascendence and civilization is unsustainable and incompatible. One or the other will go, and the pendulum with either swing back to dads or civilization will regress to accommodate the rise of women choosing cads.
In this latest blog he makes reference to this article:
http://elitedaily.com/dating/date-a-guy-who-bores-me-to-tears/918320/
Apparently it is all the good guys fault for being nice and boring, and the feminine priority is to have excitement in their sexual peak. They hold the power with contraception, and prefer to experiment with the bad boys, till they hit the wall and settle for the provisioning beta. Well it’s nothing that hasn’t been said before. Just a nice insight into the female psyche, and the future of civilization.
Any thoughts?
When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan
Hi AFT! Caught your intro recently and just want to welcome you.
Have read your posts but just arriving now to comment.Yes I know the Cads vs Dads piece very well. “Nice and boring” is an interesting complaint. Men are not your personal Santa Clause, bitches. You want a fix for drama? Go date a drug addict. The reason women are miserable with “nice and boring” is because MEN SEE TRUE VALUE IN BEING CONTENT. Maintaining an even strain. When things are fine for a man , he’s “happy”. Men are GRATEFUL when things are “nice and boring”. It means he is CONTENT.
When a man is CONTENT – happiness is sure to follow.
A woman has no f~~~ing idea what I just said.Women see no value in that. You could be out with a woman enjoying an outdoor lunch or a little road trip quietly enjoying a little music in your car watching the scenery go by and a woman will RUIN that. You’re having a GREAT DAY just enjoying the peace and tranquility of it while getting away from humanity’s mad inhumane noise — and a woman will f~~~ing s~~~ all over it. She sees no value in being CONTENT.
“What’s wrong?”
“Nothing”.
…. and 3 hours later she will explode like a time bomb because you didn’t read her mind.
“If you loved me you would know what’s wrong”.
Go f~~~ yourself.
She will ask herself “why am i not HAPPY right now?”. They are the sex that chases “happy”. And chasing happy is the first best way to be miserable whenever you’re not “happy”. She is addicted to drama and needs to be high on it ALL THE F~~~ING TIME. She will even create drama when there is no need for it – just to get her “fix”. Like a drug addict. Unless they are “high” everything – just real life – is a goddam downer and that’s how “nice and boring” is a problem.
I no longer give a s~~~ when a woman complains about “nice and boring”. Get out and walk because I can be an asshole too. You just don’t want to take me there because I am not your needle whenever you need a hit and I will make sure you don’t like it. I am not interested in being a CAD just because it makes her vagina moist.
Women are so miserable they are “happy” when the are complaining.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.True and insightful as ever,
When a man is CONTENT – happiness is sure to follow.
A woman has no f~~~ing idea what I just said.
you nailed it with
“If you loved me you would know what’s wrong”.
Go f~~~ yourself.What are your thoughts on
A society of both cad ascendence and civilization is unsustainable and incompatible.
Are you looking forward to the demise of civilization, or happy to please yourself and not give a s~~~ about whatever happens?
Is it just me or does something have to give? We can’t keep going on this way, and what do you see as the best way forward, keep our heads down focus on our own provisioning, and let it all fall apart?When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan
AFT: u r 100% accurate. .carry on bro. I will be bck tomrow.
Are you looking forward to the demise of civilization, or happy to please yourself and not give a s~~~ about whatever happens?
Is it just me or does something have to give? We can’t keep going on this way, and what do you see as the best way forward, keep our heads down focus on our own provisioning, and let it all fall apart?AFT, what exactly are we suppose to do to save civilization? Both our hands are tied behind our back, the majority of our best and brightest are leading the charge headlong into oblivion. We are literally seen as THE problem….. Exactly how do we fix that? Here’s a free clue, WE DON’T. All we can do is prepare for after and see how it turns out.
Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....
Are you looking forward to the demise of civilization, or happy to please yourself and not give a s~~~ about whatever happens?
No. But I like Smitty’s answer. I also had a thought recently, when I heard a massive asteroid was going to pass Earth and be visible from the ground. I imagined what my reaction would be if it were announced rock the size of 20 football fields would hit and wipe everything out. I wouldn’t be cheering, but I would also be dishonest if I didn’t admit I found myself smiling a little.
In the end, we all get TRUE “equality”. The announcement of such an event would immediately reduce everyone to being “the same”. This already occurs in death which happens for everyone, but many people don’t even think about it. WE ARE – thanks to men, maths and sciences – the only species on the planet that has the possibility to deflect such an event, but if it were inevitable, I would be “OK” with it – even though I had no choice.
Do I wish for a massive crumbling or for the west to explode from the inside? No, but I do so very much enjoy Karma on a small level when people get exactly what’s coming to them. So in that regard I don’t give a s~~~. Im not here to just please myself. We are providing a small “legacy” if that’s the word in the best interests of men, and it has been very rewarding experience. We we do here really MATTERS. It has an impact on the world and has created a very necessary change we can all be extremely proud of. Christ, as a combined effort we have RENAMED February 14th!!! MGTOW , you, me, all of us have joined together to celebrate ours lives, reward ourselves instead, and altered history in some small way …. and that’s just tremendous.
Valentines’ day will go on, but every SINGLE person who visits our homepage will stop and think. Even when they go out for dinner and waste money on useless s~~~ the seed has been planted. They can’t unsee it. “$14 billion was wasted on women last year – in just one day”. What a profound mind-altering thought, wouldn’t you say? Whoever reads that and decides to throw $400 away on dinner, flowers and an evening will remember that line. If I were a woman who read that, the meal would get stuck in my throat.
Is it just me or does something have to give?
Something WILL give. And it won’t be MGTOW. Thats’ a guarantee.
We can’t keep going on this way, and what do you see as the best way forward, keep our heads down focus on our own provisioning, and let it all fall apart?
Yes we can. Men have been “going their own way” for centuries. They are the men who have dedicated their lives to something BIGGER and MORE IMPORTANT than themselves. MGTOW are not just selfish assholes who refuse to get married or impregnate and support females. They are DaVincis. Teslas. Schopenhauers, Einsteins and – as Steve Jobs would say – the ones who “think different”. He would applaud us for AT LEAST that. Just for thinking different.
“Here’s to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They’re not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you can’t do is ignore them. Because they change things. They push the human race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.”
– STEVE JOBSNot only can we keep going this way. We MUST keep going this way.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Looks like I haven’t expressed myself well as usual, and didn’t quite get my meaning across.
The question I was trying to ask was do you see the social conditions at present, leading to the demise of civilization? I suppose it didn’t come out quite like I intended, but yeah I’m happy to see this system destruct and I couldn’t give a s~~~, and what else is there to do but look after and please myself?
I agree with Smitty 100%, and see your view, MGTOW is the male primary social order, and let civilization come around to agree with us, either way we’re better off following our own path and let civilization take care of itself.
I never intended to insinuate saving civilization, I suppose I was looking at insight into how best to prepare and wondering about your game plan. I meant this social construct can’t keep going this way, and civilization is f~~~ed. I see MGTOW is the only real sane response, not just to the current social order, but for men in any situation full stop.
When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan
Actually I accept responsibility and perhaps it was ME who wasn’t coming across. Just thinking out loud with free flowing thoughts.
The question I was trying to ask was do you see the social conditions at present, leading to the demise of civilization?
Most definitely. No feminized culture or matriarchy ever survived in all of history. We are experiencing a social collapse equal to the fall of Rome which came about in a similar way and history does repeat itself.
I suppose I was looking at insight into how best to prepare and wondering about your game plan.
I actually have an “escape” plan if things become unbearable and / or the state becomes an evil police state. I have a remote family cabin where I can “disappear” to for extended periods if necessary. I can remove myself from society at the drop of a hat and go completely ghost. Just get in my car and drive. Hell I may even take the scenic route. There I would fish and swim and ski and live out my remaining years in peace.
I wouldn’t pretend to know how men best prepare themselves because every MGTOW has his own game plan and “end game”. Some may ghost. Some may blend in conspicuously. Some may f~~~ off to Thailand and make babies with 5 different women or just bang like a machine and live on a beach in SeWaTeneo. Who can say really. That would be up to him. I have two other possible destinations. Portofino Italy, and SeWaTeneo. Paradise. It may even be more likely that I would do something like that. The family cabin would be if I were in a hurry and things got BAD – or if something like Yellowstone erupted.
But I want to be on a beach in the sun with knee-deep blue water as far as the eye can see.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Thank you Keymaster, I’m glad we cleared that up, you’ve definitely given me food for thought, you’ve got a hell of a head start in seeing the truth a hell of a lot sooner and I appreciate your help in letting me catch up.
I know it’s old hat to you, but I found that blog eye opening, talks of how women have used contraception to facilitate their hypergamy, and eludes to how civilization can’t survive with women perpetually choosing CAD Alpha assholes. It was just worded so well that the penny dropped, and I can’t take my part in hypergamy. The way I see it weather civilization fails or not I’m always going to be better off being a MGHOW.When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan
The way I see it weather civilization fails or not I’m always going to be better off being a MGHOW.
Thats’ an excellent attitude and the right way to go.
If GYOW is not an ENJOYABLE preferred choice (even when painful) something is wrong.Im not having any other way. In fact this translates into my professional life too… where I was recently expected (by one client) to come in EXACTLY ON TIME for work with no lateness so we could have “group huddles” to begin the day. DING DING!!! Someone’s trying to control and treat me like a child!
I have no problem with that request so I showed up the following morning at 9:59 AM.
However, being a MGTOW means f~~~ you for attempting to control.
Now I will get up and LEAVE at 6:31 PM – no exceptions.I knew they would not like it one bit. So the attempt at control WILL backfire.
They get me 40 hours per week with NO EXCEPTIONS. Not 45. Not 50. Not 65.Because they want me there on time. I will LEAVE on time. At 6:31 PM, I no longer care. When it eventually comes up in conversation (and it will) they will be told this and I will append it with “If you want me to care after 6:31 PM all you have to do is pay me more”.
And I will take my s~~~s at work from now on too. This way, while I am pinching a loaf, I can tell myself “Im getting paid to take a s~~~”. Now that’s MGTOW awesome.
Funny thing is… I came into work the next morning at 9:59 AM all eager to have our 10:00 AM meeting! Only one other guy was there. And I laughed out loud. I have not been late ONCE. Every single one of them have. They have lost ALL credibility and I have made them feel like pieces of s~~~ by asking “why have I been the only one – including the other managers – who has been here at 9:59 AM??”. Even if I arrived early I would take a walk around the block or sit in my car to time it perfectly. 9:59 to 6:31. OMG it feels so good to not care anymore after 6:31.
A “job” is only what you do so you can make enough money to do what you WANT to do when you’re not working.
You would be surprised how many people don’t see it that way. They live to WORK and don’t work to LIVE.
MGTOW, baby.
(kind of off topic but it’s just one example of how it’s been feeling really great lately)
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.better f~~~ off with your spam while u can freakshow.
@aft here’s for my take on the economic perspective
We did not listen to our logic nor to great thinkers of all eras when they said “You cannot make equal what is not”. Instead for years, we’ve been racing to create artifical equality where there isn’t supposed to be any. In order to do this: We completely undermined, shattered and irreversibly destroyed the free market. Women have been put in tax-funded jobs and at other places been employed to fill a quota. We are stealing resoures from people who produce real value to favor people who produce no value. In the midst of all this, there are over 90 million Americans not working, that’s right. Figure out the percentage.
This has been done deliberately. People who rely on the government, vote for the government. Women are the best voters.
We’ve come to the point where there are more people on the wagon, than there are people pushing it. BUT WAIT.. how come we’re still running? We give those pushing the wagon lethal (quantitative easing) QE-injections.
You might print money, but you cannot print prosperity. The economy never had a correction 2008, it was stopped, because if we’d let it loose it would had shattered the economy. How did we stop it? Well let’s just say the US debt was around 10.6 trillion when Obama took office. It is as of today just above 18 trillion, by the time Obama finishes his second term, he will have racked up more debt than ALL THE PRESIDENTS BEFORE HIM summed together. That’s where the money for the injections are coming from. If you know what an exponential function is, I recommend to NOT look at the US debt graph. Horror movies will never frighten you anymore, you will have seen true evil.
As if this wasn’t enough, the great empire has exported all of its inflation overseas by making the dollar the reserve currency. If countries stop selling oil in dollars and effectively threatens the petrodollars reserve currency status, all of that inflation will be hurling back at America at lightspeed and it will make the inflated pre-WW2 Reichsmark look like a walk in the park.
US plans was to keep this circus going until atleast 2020 but they are struggling to keep this s~~~ty parade alive even to mid-2015. That’s what exponentiality does for you. Things have also been accelerated when their plan to destabilize Russia (although somewhat successfully) backfired horribly unto themselves. Their only way out is the same as it has been for as long as USA’s existence: Get into an armed conflict that they can blame the coming collapse on. See: Ukraine (and later directly Russia).
To sum all of this up in a very short sentence, here is where humanity made its mistake. It questioned the notion that might is right and tried to make equal what is not. The coming collapse won’t just create the apropriate correction in our faulty economy but it will also create a correction in our faulty way of thinking. It will do so through alot of pain and suffering.
Karma is a bitch
Because they want me there on time. I will LEAVE on time. At 6:31 PM, I no longer care. When it eventually comes up in conversation (and it will) they will be told this and I will append it with “If you want me to care after 6:31 PM all you have to do is pay me more”.
I used to wait an extra 10-15 minutes until the parking lot cleared out. Why should I sit motionless in my car when the company is giving me an air conditioned lounge? That saved me many gallons of gas over the years.
I made free with restroom breaks too. I liked getting paid for using the porcelain throne.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
MGTOW is always going to be the preferred choice, it’s the present situation that is painful. In fact I would contend that if more men would have been taught to go MGTOW earlier, this whole s~~~ storm of a civilization could have been avoided. If anything is going to reverse the harm that has been done then it’s going to be more men opting out of the current state of affairs, and choosing their best interests, I can’t see anything being more in a mans interest than MGTOW. By definition they choose their own way, whatever that is it’s got to be the best choice for him. Whether MGTOW brings civilization down, or repairs it, it just makes f~~~ing sense.
Putting reason before emotion, freedom to express the truth, and as Tempered said respect that might is right.When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan
We men have transferred our power to women and parasitic men.
Unlike powerful and productive people that create order, wealth and prosperity. Weak people create violence, chaos and destruction. Strong people build, weak people parasitise. Socialism and communism is the pinnacle of matriarchy. It works until there is no more money to steal.
With that said, patriarchy does not necessarily leave unfortunate people to starve. Having a soup kitchen in every area could be funded by a tax less than 0,2%. Compare that to all the taxation, debt and derivative bulls~~~ that’s sucking us dry today.
MGTOW is about regaining your power on a personal level. This is the first step before regaining your power on the societal level. Once we do, we will make sure none of this madness ever happens again.
@tempered it is true that MGTOW is about regaining power on a personal level, but as we do one by one we recreate the combined society. It can’t come soon enough.
I never transferred my power over to women, it was stolen from me by institutionalized feminism, before I even knew any different, feeding me the gynocentric rhetoric from day 1, we never really had a chance, it’s a wonder I woke up at all.When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan
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