Why pro abortion is wrong for males

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

Barbar debates boozy scientist about abortion. Why abortion is scientifically and morally wrong. We all hear that fetus can’t have feelings. Also abortions don’t hold women accountable for their actions because they can legally have a living being killed with no consequences. This means society and the government will not hold women account for false rape, domestic violence etc.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22578]

I don’t like to think about this stuff because of the sake of my sanity and that there is nothing I can do about it.

I don’t like to think how the first sensation a unborn child feels if pain and violation, as they are violated in some of the most painful forms of deaths possible.

And this has been done to over sixty million unborn children in the U.S. alone.

And as long as their is an army between us an the abortionists, with us being forced to foot the bill, there is not much we can do about it.

I sometimes pray over all these unborn children whom have been murdered in the name of convenience. And I like to think that should reincarnation be real that these souls would move onto be born to a mother that will actually care about them.

I can forgive the shortsightedness of modern women.

I can pity the narcissism of modern women.

I can understand the selfishness and greed of modern women.

What I do not understand. What I do not pity. What I do not forgive is modern women murdering the most innocent of human beings. The unborn. That is one of the few acts of evil that I hope those directly involved in causing go to Hell for.

A woman can be shortsighted, narcissistic, selfish, and greedy, while still keeping their legs shut and keeping herself from becoming pregnant.

And those women that have actually been victims of real rape, whom got pregnant, tend to keep the child. So, that is no excuse either.

There is no excuse for abortions. There is none.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

60,000,000 babies killed to abortion is similar to all the people killed in all of WWII. The concentration camps, the eastern front everything combined was similar to the number of abortions performed.

But, short of a law permitting men to adopt the offspring that is not wanted by the mother or the development of artificial means of incubating fetei. I support a paper abortion.

A paper abortion is when a couple becomes pregnant within the first 18 weeks, if the male doesn’t want to have a child he has the right to sign away his parental rights to the mother with no recourse to see the kids and she does not get any child support.

If she still wants to go through with it it is her body and that has not been infringed upon by the paper abortion.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

A paper abortion is when a couple becomes pregnant within the first 18 weeks, if the male doesn’t want to have a child he has the right to sign away his parental rights to the mother with no recourse to see the kids and she does not get any child support.

How about men not having sex with women they don’t trust and don’t want children with? I don’t want children however I could never deny my own offspring. This is why I would never have sex with just any woman. There are other reasons for no having sex with most women but this is top of my list.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

Faust For Science wrote:

And those women that have actually been victims of real rape, whom got pregnant, tend to keep the child. So, that is no excuse either.

I knew a woman a few years ago who was raped and kept the child. If anything, she said the child was a blessing to her life and though she was expensive, she gave this woman a feeling of being actually loved and needed.

I’ve had a lot of women that used to tell me “not all raped women can have the kid because they’ll just think of the rape and hate the child.”

I think about the story of this woman. I don’t know how so many can terminate a baby with little to no remorse. Modern women are truly evil.

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

No sex = no abortion = no moral dillema. That’s my solution.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

It’s way more easy, regardless the moral implications.
Restrictions on abortions are good for men, because when and if women obtain free abortions without restrictions they tend to focus on achieving other “rights”, like in example banning men from p~~~ing standing up, or criminalising buyers of sex, and such things. More freedom for women, being women trained to be selfish and gynocentric, and being women never happy, always means they’ll focus in taking another step, basically it means oppression for men.

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[InfernalShadowParticipant 377]

I’m more or less indifferent on the whole issue. If men were given the same opportunity to “opt out” of parenting for a child once that child is born, like women are able to, maybe I’d have an opinion about this.

[sidecarParticipant 35860]

Crazy Canuck wrote:

How about men not having sex with women they don’t trust and don’t want children with?

That doesn’t stop women from having children they cannot afford to feed by some other man. Usually a worse man who won’t pay for that child either. So the burden for those children get dropped right onto the taxpayer, who didn’t have sex with the woman and didn’t have any say in the matter.

That’s not equality. Why should women get to have irresponsible sex risk free with as many men as they like while men are putting their entire lives for the next eighteen to twenty three years at the mercy of her whims?

If you’re a man, having sex with the woman often has absolutely nothing to do with being saddled with the burden for it. I’ve already mentioned how the taxpayer has no choice. Well neither does the poor schmuck she writes down on the birth certificate, regardless of whether or not he even knows who she is, much less had sex with her. Paternity fraud is rampant.

So long as women have all the reproductive rights and NONE of the responsibilities, abortion is “wrong” for them because they lose out on all the fat benefits – paid for by men. But so so long as men, and the taxpayer (again mostly men) have zero reproductive rights but ALL the reproductive responsibilities, then abortion is very very RIGHT for men.

Never mind the morals or ethics or any of that fuzzy, fluffy stuff. I’m talking about something real here. I’m talking about money. And the eighteen years of hard labor for no reward that money represents. And as far as money is concerned, it’s far, far cheaper to give an irresponsible woman $300 to scrape out her little unintended consequence than pony up far far more than that every single month for the next eighteen years. Or longer if her little miracle grows up to be incarcerated, or gets itself pregnant in an ever expanding cycle of irresponsibility and dependence.

Better yet, make women solely responsible for their reproductive choices. There is no such thing as an accidental birth. If she has the sole right to “choose”, she should have the sole responsibility to pay for her choice.

[BrujahParticipant 579]

Morality and ethics aside, I feel the choice should always be there regardless if only to rectify a shortcoming of the raw human nature to reproduce. Until we get laws that absolve the man of a woman’s choices, it’s a necessary evil.

[Anonymous 24]

Firstly, a contract should have to be signed by a man for a woman to go ahead and have a child of theirs if she wants him to pay for it for the next 18 years. I mean, she can have it, but why is he held responsible if there was no contract and the sex was supposedly recreational??? This is called entrapment in other walks of life.”I am on the pill” I have gotten two women pregnant who said such words… Also, vice versa. What if a man for religious reasons or personal moral reasons wants a child to be born that is in a woman’s womb that he placed there? Why does he not get any say in the matter in either direction on this topic yet can be held financially liable for it??? This is one of the most unfair things I know of. Talk about having your cake and eating to… And women complain about equal rights L O F~~~ING L!

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

I don’t know guys.Single mothers are not a blessing to society.

They pop out kids they can’t afford and can’t raise them right resulting in generations of men in the prison system.

I would rather a woman get an abortion (especially an early term abortion)than see kids treated like s~~~.I have seen a lot of kids treated like s~~~. There are a lot of mothers who are abusive and neglectful.Can’t parents worth a s~~~.And then they bring thug ass guys around their kids who are just as bad if not worse.Lot of people are walking around with lifetime mental scars because of s~~~ty parenting.
I was adopted. My birth mother was f~~~ing around and cheated on her husband so she gave me up for adoption. My adoptive parents were raised by single mothers( early 1950s) and both were f~~~ed up in the head.My adopive mother had anger issues,codependant issues, anxiety issues. My adoptive father had anger issues, alcohol issues and was sexuality abused by someone his mother brought in the house. Both of my grandmothers brought bad ass dudes around for their own satisfaction. Women sexual attractions change throughout their menstrual cycles and in other ways.They are often Un able to make up their minds due to their biology .They alternate what kind of man they are attracted to ,meanwhile popping out kids they can’t afford to feed and won’t take care good of…So there is no simple solution. The only solution is to ostracize women that act like stupid counts.As far as I’m concerned AWALT so I want nothing to do with any of them.So I really am not going to put much thought to women having abortions.Worse things happen every day.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[AttonParticipant]

The male birth control pill.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

Yup the male birth control pill will bring some real changes.

But I have a male birth control pill in my head.

The MGTOW Red Pill.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

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