Why I'm not a PUA

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  • #552976
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    FrederickTheGreat
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    I was reading a website called “Return of Kings” that awkwardly tries to promote both being a TradCon and a PUA. The only thing those two lifestyles have in common is that they put women first and self-freedom second. If they can’t make up their mind, I’m not sure I want their advice. Anyway, when in PUA mode, this website promotes playing “game” so that women will sleep with you. I’ve always been good at learning things. I have good social skills and think fast. It should be pretty easy for me. Yet I can’t imagine doing this.

    Why not? I like neither the means nor the end.

    The means require taking and passing s~~~ tests. I can do that, but that’s not fun for me. I like interacting with other people who are kind, respectful, and interesting. Someone who is s~~~-testing me is none of the above. I think what really bothers me about this is that even “passing” a s~~~ test is still ceding independence to the tester. I have allowed the s~~~-tester to test me, to disrespect me, and to waste my valuable time. I’m too cool for school. I’m not sitting for any tests. I’m not going to do anything just to win a woman’s approval. Not for one minute. As soon as I do that, I sacrifice my integral whole to women’s whims. I become a half-person, with an identity based on what women “want,” not what I want. No way.

    Also, if you really want to play game correctly, you really have to be more than just bluster. You have to have flashy stuff to make yourself seem “high status.” This requires slaving more hours, buying stuff you don’t really want… wait a minute, this sounds like marriage. Maybe that’s why ROK is both PUA and TradCon!

    Anyway, maybe I’d put up with all of the above means if the end was worthwhile. Sadly, it is even worse.

    The end: sex. Worthwhile? Rarely. For sex to be enjoyable requires not only a good-looking woman, but one who is skilled in the art. How many women are really skilled? Even when it is a good experience, it is like a few moments of pleasure as compared to the time commitment to play the game. So, we have something that is hardly worthwhile.

    What’s worse, there are big four risks that make sex disastrous.
    1) Pregnancy: Well, that’s just game over. Financial ruin. Total loss of independence. Unfavorable custody. And the only “protection” available to me as a man gives only about a 90% chance of success. Am I playing Russian Roulette with one in ten chambers containing a bullet? No.
    2) False rape accusations: I’d like to think that the system would work out, but even if I were eventually vindicated, how much ruin would there be to my career and reputation?
    3) STDs: A lifetime of pain or even an early death seems like something to avoid at all costs.
    4) Stalkers, mental cases, etc.: I don’t know these women that I’d be picking up in bars, and I sure as heck don’t want to put up with their mental problems. Maybe this can be avoided by going back to her place, or whatever, but why risk it?

    So, I could spend my time engaging in ridiculous social gamesmanship, so that I can get a quite possibly unsatisfactory experience that could ruin my life 4 different ways! Or I can pursue the many things that make life worthwhile for me. Those guys at ROK think they’re hot s~~~, but they’re just as much slaves to women’s whims as any “beta” guy they would mock. Wow, so they can have sex! So can the most worthless guys in this society. Try achieving something lasting and meaningful.

    The only advice worth taking on the internet comes from Keymaster. The only way to live is MGTOW.

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    Anonymous
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    I’m not going to do anything just to win a woman’s approval. Not for one minute. As soon as I do that, I sacrifice my integral whole to women’s whims. I become a half-person, with an identity based on what women “want,” not what I want. No way.

    Add to that rejection that PUA’s face. Nothing wrong with rejection but the time and energy they spent in earning approval, rejection then is failure at default.

    Women will promote PUA because they get free samples – who to f~~~, who to trap, who to reject, who to keep in beta orbit.

    PUAs waste their time and resources on earning someone else’s approval when once the lights go out – means nothing.

    #552998
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    FrostByte
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    I was reading a website called “Return of Kings” that awkwardly tries to promote both being a TradCon and a PUA. The only thing those two lifestyles have in common is that they put women first and self-freedom second.

    PUA is pussy begging from the opposite end of the scale.
    One end of the scale you have bluepill simps, manginas, and white knights who are mostly beta cucks. Then you have PUAs who are alpha pussy beggars. Regardless both sides are pussy begging. They track, evaluate and measure themselves with vagina and the attention they get from it, or the conquest of it. In MGTOW we don’t don’t do that. We seek to be sovereign. Pussy is no measure of our value and is nothing we peruse other than for our own pleasure or benefit.

    If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

    #553004
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    Diogenes
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    There is a wall that PUAs hit also. They were, after all, the c–ks on the c–k carousel. There’s nothing about them to admire at all. They wasted their youth.

    #553087
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    Anonymous
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    Return of Kings is s~~~. A bunch of pussy beggars acting like they have women throwing themselves at them. Have you seen pictures of some of these guys, like Matt Forney? Overweight, unattractive wanker trying to act like he’s a chick magnet. Trust me, if Matt Forney is getting any pussy, it sure as hell isn’t because of his looks or “game”. The only way fat, ugly f~~~s like him get laid is by having a fat wallet. He probably poses in pictures with random pretty women he met in order to portray himslef as some sort of player who is banging all the hot broads.

    The most pathetic thing about PUAs is how utterly desperate they are for female approval. Their whole outlook is that their value as a man is determined by women being willing to f~~~ them. The only thing more pathetic is their attempts to convince other men that a man is a loser unless he can get women to constantly sleep with him. These idiots talk a big anti-feminist game, but the truth is they are a feminist’s best friend. When a man is willing to let a woman determine his worth, then he is giving her all the power. That’s what these pathetic assholes can’t even realize is that they are giving ALL of the power to women by allowing women to be judge and jury of their value. Any man who lets his value be determined by women is a spineless coward that shouldn’t even bother calling himself a man. The last thing a man who allows women to determine his value (like Matt Forney does) should be doing is going around shaming other men that won’t buy into that s~~~.

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    Bryant
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    amen brother well spoken

    "He who lives with honor dies with honor."

    #554125
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    ScarberianMPTGL
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    Why I’m not a PUA:

    I’m too lazy.

    No, seriously. Even back in the day (around 2009) I had this “friend” who introduced me to the PUA stuff by showing me a book by Neil Strauss (The Game or something like that) and I was kind of interested but I wasn’t as gung-ho about it as he was. Seemed like a lot of work to me at the time. Kinda glad I never got started. I mean, if I’m gonna change myself in any way I might as well do it for me and not some slure who I’m probably never gonna see again(at least, I think that’s how it’s supposed to work).

    I, Lelouch Vi Britannia, command you, all of you, to Go Your Own Way!!

    #554163
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    Anonymous
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    PUA are a bunch of Gynocentric Mommas boys. They are obsessed with Female Approval and believe the pinnacle of achievement is having a woman open her legs for you. What a bunch of pathetic losers. Can you imagine these guys when they hit 50 years old? Are they still buying all the clothes to look hip and trendy? Are thy still dedicating their lives to get a piece of pussy? Hanging out at night clubs spending hundreds of dollars buying c~~~s drinks. Lol.

    #554185
    Brujah
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    Why I’m not a PUA:

    I’m too lazy.

    Pretty much me as well. Sex has lost so much of it’s appeal that I don’t really see what the point of fishing is anymore.

    #554192
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    Shadow1275
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    I’m not a PUA, they’re just as much slaves to the P U ssy as the White Knights. They hold up sex like it’s some badge of honor.

    Who the f~~~ cares if you put your Schlong into some wet hole? Every single animal on earth does that almost every single day. And it only f~~~s up Society even more.

    Return of kings are idiots. Traditionalism is still Gynocentrism. In Japan they practice Traditionalism. The Men work like dogs and the Women are treated like princesses. All the work without the rewards while Women get all of the rewards without the work.

    He who is Brave is Free - Seneca

    #554197
    Ranger One
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    LOL, PUA.

    I have a gf and a vasectomy and I’m barely interested in sex. Pounded on her this past weekend for like 25 minutes then I eventually lost interest and took a nap. I didn’t cum, I just lost interest. Seems pointless.

    I woke up feeling much better after a nap.

    Why in the actual f~~~ would I devote any time, money or energy to trying to screw random women.

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

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    Anonymous
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    Have you seen pictures of some of these guys, like Matt Forney

    Just looked this bloke up and was stunned. Grossly overweight, this man clearly values pussy above his own health, because his spare time should be spent in the gym shifting that huge gut. He’s got a whole host of ailments and diseases coming his way – heart disease, diabetes, stroke etc etc.

    But he’d rather be doing that. What an idiot.

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