Why I think men shame MGTOW

[ScarberianMPTGLParticipant 3286]

Besides because their female masters say it’s bad, I mean. I’m obviously no psych major but I think a big part of why men are turning on their brothers who have opted out is because it removes competition. Think about it. Men are hardwired to compete and by letting them know we’re out of the game we’ve basically removed all the fun for them of thinking they’ve beaten us, in this case, at the game of getting women. I mean, look at it this way: is it any fun for you to play a game by yourself(except for maybe Solitaire if you’re into that) or to play against someone who’s not interested in playing or gives up before the game is over or has barely even started? No, right? Well, I think it’s kinda the same thing in this situation. That’s what I feel MGTOW represent in a way, that player who’s not there or who isn’t interested and gives up/leaves. Now, I know we all know that the “game” in question is rigged, and there’s really no prize and no real way to win, but the blue-pillers don’t know that and hence still feel they have a chance to win, but they don’t want the win handed to them, they want to feel like they earned it. It’s more satisfying that way. We’re taking that away from them and they don’t like it. They’re hoping to shame us into wanting to compete with them so they can try to beat us and thus feel good about themselves. After all, while they’ll still have the other simps to compete against, the more people you beat the better you feel and the better you look to others, especially women, at least that’s how they see it.

I don’t know, I could be wrong. Feel free to let me know if I am and why.

I, Lelouch Vi Britannia, command you, all of you, to Go Your Own Way!!

[UntamedParticipant]

Even though I like your theory, ScarberianMGTOW, and there maybe sometching to it for the few Bluepillers eager to compete while ignoring the fact that weemins chose to have sex and are not talked or cajoled into it, my theory is much simpler.
These men who like to shame us for opting for the sanest choices in an insane world genuinely believe what they say. That’s how f~~~ing deluded these brainwashed slaves actually are!!
They speak about the good of society and children and the whole f~~~ing system as if the very chains that held them tied to the Plantation was the source of their masculine pride in the responsibilities they are made to carry every day, never suspecting that their cupcake will one day rob them of everything they worked so hard for because she’s itching to try another c~~~ or wants a bigger house.
These Plantation prisoners cannot begin to fathom the truths of MGTOW. They drink, eat, sleep and s~~~ Blue Pills on a daily basis, how can they be expected to even accept the first and most fundamental of MGTOW concepts?
These Bluepill Zombies have been raised into the Blue-Pill matrix and fed feminist propaganda from the cradle. We know for we too were once asleep just as they are.
They’ve been brainwashed to believe, with fervor mind you, that it is Man’s lot in life to be tied to an abusive, bitchy, vicious, demmanding, vindictive and manipulative ball’n’chain without once complaining or wishing that things would be a little more equitable if not equal.
That’s the Blue-Pill world they live in and, sadly, many of them will require a good kick in the nuts to discover the sweet nectar of Red Pills and the salvation MGTOW offers to the ones with the b~~~~ to say NO.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[WallyParticipant]

It may be different from man to man, but by not playing the game and going your own way and enjoying your life shows another way to live without chasing women. There really is so much more to life and that can be frightening to some men I suppose.

The way society indoctrinated young men is akin to the way a cult indoctrinates a member. Chase women, marry and procreate or your life has no meaning or if you leave our cult you go to hell and burn.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[ScarberianMPTGLParticipant 3286]

Untamed wrote:

Even though I like your theory, ScarberianMGTOW, and there maybe sometching to it for the few Bluepillers eager to compete while ignoring the fact that weemins chose to have sex and are not talked or cajoled into it, my theory is much simpler.
These men who like to shame us for opting for the sanest choices in an insane world genuinely believe what they say. That’s how f~~~ing deluded these brainwashed slaves actually are!!
They speak about the good of society and children and the whole f~~~ing system as if the very chains that held them tied to the Plantation was the source of their masculine pride in the responsibilities they are made to carry every day, never suspecting that their cupcake will one day rob them of everything they worked so hard for because she’s itching to try another c~~~ or wants a bigger house.
These Plantation prisoners cannot begin to fathom the truths of MGTOW. They drink, eat, sleep and s~~~ Blue Pills on a daily basis, how can they be expected to even accept the first and most fundamental of MGTOW concepts?
These Bluepill Zombies have been raised into the Blue-Pill matrix and fed feminist propaganda from the cradle. We know for we too were once asleep just as they are.
They’ve been brainwashed to believe, with fervor mind you, that it is Man’s lot in life to be tied to an abusive, bitchy, vicious, demmanding, vindictive and manipulative ball’n’chain without once complaining or wishing that things would be a little more equitable if not equal.
That’s the Blue-Pill world they live in and, sadly, many of them will require a good kick in the nuts to discover the sweet nectar of Red Pills and the salvation MGTOW offers to the ones with the b~~~~ to say NO.

Yeah, that’s definitely another way of looking at it.

I, Lelouch Vi Britannia, command you, all of you, to Go Your Own Way!!

[UntamedParticipant]

ScarberianMPTGL wrote:

Yeah, that’s definitely another way of looking at it

Not saying it’s THE way to look at it and I’m sure other esteemed menbers will have their own take on it but it’s my way of translating what I see and hear every day out there and when I realise how much of a miserable Bluepiller White Knight I once was, that makes sense to me.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[Anonymous 42]

Any man that shames MGTOW is a feminist at heart! A girly man!

[Branched offParticipant 10920]

I don’t know the answer to this question but I would observe that one rarely wastes time shaming anyone that one does not see in some way as a threat. Why the Blue pill world should shame MGTOW I totally get but why some who are oamong the awakened, who actually see that the world is heading to a bad place see MGTOW as a threat. That I am less sure.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[TaxGuyParticipant]

I don’t see it, but I’m in my 50’s. Guys my age get it. I don’t have to explain for more than about 30 seconds until they are nodding their heads in agreement. If you think there aren’t any “good women” when you’re in your 20’s or 30’s, wait until you are in your 50’s. The few “good ones” are taken and the left overs are looking for a retirement plan, or they are bitter over their own bad choices.

But women can’t stand to be alone so they keep looking. At some level they KNOW they are getting less attractive by the day and it makes them desperate.

And the few female friends I have, I just say now I know what you felt like when you were single. That desperate look someone has in their eyes isn’t attractive. They’ve all seem that “creepy” desperate look in a mangina’s eyes. That’s the constant look in a 50 year old single woman’s eyes.

I guess the good news for you is it gets easier. There’s a lot less shaming the older you get.

Order the good wine

[guiParticipant 825]

The one explanation that makes the most the sense for me is the one about people looking to others in order to receive validation for their choices. If someone refuse to take the same path as another person, that person will start to question if he/she is at the right path and become very uncomfortable.

It’s doesn’t matter for a simp if he’s living in hell as long as his friends and family are too. It reminds me of the instinct people have when drowning that is to drag other people with them.

Its like some saying that circulates around that says that people in general want to see others at worse situations than theirs. Never at better situations.

Pity and contempt are siblings. You only feel pity for those you consider weak.

[AntipathyParticipant 4901]

I like your take Scarb. They see us as the players who threw our jersey’s on the grass and walked off the field. They haven’t yet realized, and some of them never will because they’re too dumb, but they haven’t figured out, the game is 100% rigged. Not 50%, not 75% or 80%.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22502]

It forces them to realize men have a choice to not participate in the s~~~show that is modern women today.

Normal guys are happy to have less competition. Better chances at better women.

I believe much of this crap is written by women trying to appear as men. The men doing it are just p~~~ed guys are opting out because they are too deep in and can’t get out without much pain, they know its true their ‘loving woman’ will divorce rape the s~~~ out of them, or they are too tied to worshipping pussy and are p~~~ed these guys prove they can live better without it.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Modern Day WarriorParticipant 499]

TaxGuy wrote:

If you think there aren’t any “good women” when you’re in your 20’s or 30’s, wait until you are in your 50’s. The few “good ones” are taken and the left overs are looking for a retirement plan, or they are bitter over their own bad choices.

I concur. Even if you find one that isn’t a land whale, she’ll have many other deal-breakers. I’ve been single for a long time, but still get people assuming that I’d prefer to have a woman. I don’t want one. And I’m not missing out on anything.

"One must put up barriers to keep oneself intact." - Neil Peart

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Take a good look at the sort of men who try to shame MGTOW. Like that crapweasel turd Brad Wilcox. There’s your answer.

And the opinions of men like that don’t matter.

[NerdTunnelerParticipant]

It doesnt matter…They cannot fathom the truth in MGTOW because of their total immersion in the plantation. It is all they know and they would rather have a comfortable lie than the harsh truth..

Plus, let them rant and rave…MGTOWs living a free life is proof enough of their blue pill slavery…

I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...

[freedomParticipant 5129]

I believe deep down they also know the truth and they are confused when confronted with someone who opted out.
Also they try to get some pussy by being sympathetic toward women.

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

The irony. Men Don’t even care about other men, and yet they expect us to care about what OTHER MEN have to say using shaming tactics?

These are all women folks. Let’s do the logic for a second. \\\

What are they trying to really sell:

What’s really out there.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[Anonymous 2]

There are three types of men that shame MGTOWs:

1. Men stuck in unhappy marriages –
These men secretly envy free men. They miss their days of being able to do what they wanted whenever they wanted. Shaming free men is an attempt to make themselves feel better about their s~~~ty lives.

2. Manginas – These f~~~ers are so desperate for pussy, they will do anything to please their female masters. They’re too stupid to realize that women actually despise them for their simping.

3. Tradcons and PUAs – These pathetic assholes believe that they aren’t really men unless they can constantly get women to f~~~ them. Most of these pricks will end up spending lots of time and money on women, and believe that when they get sex, they’re the ones who got the better end of the deal. Meanwhile, the women not only got sexual pleasure, but also got a free ride on the the wallets of these idiots. These sad f~~~s constantly need female validation in order to feel like they are men. Any man who needs female approval in order to validate his manhood to himself is a sad piece of s~~~.

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

Some more math.

Millions of Mangina Cucks, to broke, poor, and beat to s~~~ to even have any ambition.

This is the cycle.

This is the result:

These CUCKS BENEFIT from EVERY MAN THAT GOES MGTOW.

The CUCKS LOVE THIS S~~~! There is more Desperate women for them them ever before.
They get their dick wet, and move on. They don’t have s~~~, and are able to get a girl “just being themselves”.

And they don’t care as long as it is a HOLE. PERIOD. (Even if it’s filled with PERIOD)

These men are NOT complaining. WHO IS COMPLAINING? WOMEN!

They have raised a generation of men that have NO IDEA what the world is even like.

And the cucks and the Traditionalist are in joy right now, since they know that men like us are never going to take whatever sliver of hope they do have.

Honestly, the MRM Cuck TradCon are Jumping up for joy right now. They know that their fat slut is going to be THEIR VERY OWN FOREVER!

And if she bails, she is only going to get less. She may have a few flings, but she is doing that already. There is no where to climb for her. No one is going to want her fat ass.

And even if she tries to lose weight, and try to blend in, her history is AVAILABLE, her actions of who she is are going to be well known. And If she tries to play any of the typical female cards, they don’t work on the men that use to be Captain Save a ho!

Men at work don’t want them, and they know what’s going on.

Women are starting to get this bitter pill, that they ARE disposable as well. Good looking guys are in such demand, they are starting to throw away women at the 5 year point now as many have suggested in the past.

Now it’s even shorter. Women are at home so much and online, not going out it’s starting to show in Electric bills of these women. (Take a look at Electrical company forecasts!)

Women are in a bind and BEGGING that men do not wake up. And its TOO LATE.

And the best part of this, is all those rape allegations don’t mean s~~~ for many of these guys since they have nothing anyways 🙂 They got nothing to lose!

Meanwhile, the men that are worth a damn, are leaving long term relationships in droves. I see it in the financial sector with many women now going home alone, and then using the typical excuse “Going to work on myself” But then getting to colledge, only to realize, there is NO MEN THERE FOR THEM.

AND NO PROSPECTS OF ANY LONG TERM with these men.

Why would any man say NO to other men leaving the dating pool, when it benefits them?

Even women win, cuz they get more c~~~ to ride, since they just see as far as maybe Next week, or right now. They just see it as living the good life, seeing a new man every week, or two. They have gotten so lazy, the weekend f~~~ is fine for them, and there are PLENTY of men willing to do that.

The only time these women start waking up is when they see that THIS IS ALL THEIR LIVES ARE GOING TO BE FOR THE NEXT 60 YEARS.

This starts at about age 25, and then at 30, they start getting nervous. And by 35, its over.

They lash out, they Lie, they do whatever just to be relevant again while other women who are younger take their weekend f~~~ away from them. And OTHER WOMEN in the same pool compete for, Let’s face facts here. MGTOW style men.

They get Terrence Popp Treatment, and it happens all over again. The men are happy, while the women are left wondering why their pussy is not enough to hold down a man anymore since there are so many others in the pool that a guy can choose from.

With many more MEN in jail, and more going everyday, these other men are ether leaving the country, or just going solo, or saying to hell with the whole thing.

And who is left?

Women who f~~~ed up the men coming here, and see the light and know they are going to get a taste of what they have been serving for years.

And this time, NOTHING they do or change is going to change the fact that these men are better off without them. They see either a new younger woman, who is not like her, will be more then happy to play house.

All the while, the guy keeps getting older, wiser, and richer, and HAPPIER.

Nothing these women can do, or say or even GOVERNMENT LEGISLATION is going to change these men’s minds.

And then it hits them. All they had to do was.. Get this?

Just treat men like a human beings. And YET. They can’t even do that.

They can’t use beta men. They can USE and ABUSE Alpha men. And they have no use for Android, or even Companion bots made to look like men.

Men no longer have ANY incentive to have kids or a family seeing what is going to happen to their children.

Children are now in reality, property of the state. We have seen it with our own eyes.

If we have no control, no say, not even the promise of even being able to see our children grow?

What the hell is any man going to do with a woman long term, when he knows that:

1. Women will give you STD’s if sleep with them.
2. All WOMEN will trade you up IF YOU COMMIT.
3. ALL WOMEN will see you as less IF YOU COMMIT.
4. She will be Nicer to you IF YOU JUST USE HER A FEW TIMES.
5. New women will HAPPILY take and old womans place.
6. LAWS ENCOURAGE YOU to LEAVE a woman.
7. Laws tell you that LTRs will be penalized. Even JAIL TIME.
8. Cheaper to Never meet her in the first place.
9. The more you put in, the less she puts out.
10. She only cares about herself. So why don’t you for a change?

You want to see how WORTHLESS a woman is to your life. In INDIA. They PAY to give them away. INDIAN WOMAN!. Some of the best women in the world to be married to, and THEY CAN’T GIVE THEM AWAY!

So face facts here. Most women are S~~~. And just like something valuable, there is not much of them that are worth it.

If you were an economist, would you be able with a straight face to say: Used cars have Higher value then NEW CARS?

If women won’t do this, THEN WHAT MAN WOULD?

Very few cars rise in value over the BILLIONS MADE. What makes anyone think that all women have the same value? Or men for that reason?

Lets face it. You just got insider Knowledge, and now you know what they are selling.

The sellers are p~~~ed since they are the owners of these cars.

The Owners of Used cars that did not get them on lease, are trying to fool themselves to think they have something valuable.

The truth is. She is only worth, what she makes you feel. And if she makes you feel like s~~~.

Time to give it away to charity, cuz no one else is buying her. AND THESE WOMEN KNOW IT.

Meantime, the car market is not worth buying into. I suggest you Rent one when you need one.

And maybe think about purchasing a spaceship.

I don’t mean to make this sound so simpleton, but Imagine how the world would change, if you left it to build the world you wanted someplace else. One where you were so far away, that no one would dream of bothering you.

That is where you need to live. A place where you are untouchable. They will all want to join you, but the Journey is too far.

For too long, the Weak have ruled, and the strong were sent out to die. Its time we change that. Put the best horses in the lead, and be kind to those that do not make it.

Shame is the tool of the weak to influence the strong.

SHAME tries to masquerade as Virtue to vilify your Humanity.

What they never told you, is what happens to a mans soul when you have no humanity left.

That gentlemen, is reason enough to tell other men to go MGTOW.

You are not helping just yourself, you are helping to save ManKind, and everything that came before it.

The alternative, I will tell you.. Is darker and more sister than any evil you can possibly imagine.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

No.
It’s that despising men who aren’t interested in women it’s a way to say “I’m very interested in women”.
If you pay attention to them, you’ll notice that generally (with exceptions, but it applies to the overwhelming majority of cases) the men who are the most vocal attacking MGTOW tend to be the least manly:
MORE VOCAL AGAINST MGTOW = MORE EFFEMINATE
DON’T CARE ABOUT MGTOW = MORE MASCULINE
Pay attention to them, you’ll see such trend.

Men who really want a lot of sex with a lot of women don’t want competition: they want countless women, that’s why harems were a thing…

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

Anonymous wrote:

There are three types of men that shame MGTOWs:

1. Men stuck in unhappy marriages –
These men secretly envy free men. They miss their days of being able to do what they wanted whenever they wanted. Shaming free men is an attempt to make themselves feel better about their s~~~ty lives.

2. Manginas – These f~~~ers are so desperate for pussy, they will do anything to please their female masters. They’re too stupid to realize that women actually despise them for their simping.

3. Tradcons and PUAs – These pathetic assholes believe that they aren’t really men unless they can constantly get women to f~~~ them. Most of these pricks will end up spending lots of time and money on women, and believe that when they get sex, they’re the ones who got the better end of the deal. Meanwhile, the women not only got sexual pleasure, but also got a free ride on the the wallets of these idiots. These sad f~~~s constantly need female validation in order to feel like they are men. Any man who needs female approval in order to validate his manhood to himself is a sad piece of s~~~.

Tradcons are either 1 or 2, but unrelated to PUA: tradcons’ goal is marriage contract and a relations~~~ for life – they just willfully ignore two “little” details: LAWS and DIVORCE RATE 😀
PUAs are, on average, young guys who want validate their manhood through proving to be able to access to a lot of pussy: after some years and enough validations most them are destined to gravitate towards MGTOW, since after getting enough pussy it lost all its holyness and there’s nothing interesting left in women…

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

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