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I am going to share my story because I think it is important to share things with other people so they can learn from it but also to remind people that their horrible life experience with women is not unique to them.
I am now 46 years old and was raised with an intact family that included mother, father, and a sister. Mom was stay at home and dad worked at a blue collar job. We were typical middle class people with all the day to day ups and downs of life but no tragic issues. My parents always told me to get an education and decide your own future. The importance of family and leadership was emphasized and I wanted to do my parents proud because they sacrificed for me. I developed into a Type A self driven person.
Fast forward and I went to college and law school. I became a lawyer and worked for a law firm and soon opened up my own law practice. I took out loans to do this and soon opened up my own law practice before the age of 30. Sadly I did not practice family law, did not know or hang out with anyone who was divorced. I always thought the issues of child support and divorce matched with trailers and domestic violence. I heard the marriage sucks jokes on TV etc but always believed that my job was to be successful, take care of a family, and raise kids with a wife that would stay home and take care of them all while I encouraged her to grow and do things for herself.
Im a typical man in that I like a good looking woman. I dated women who were fun and or looked good because that is what we do. You want your kids to be good looking and other men to look at your wife and just know that this guy(me) was successful at everything. Due to my own immaturity and and desire to pay my school loans back, I was never going to get married in my 20s. The women were always looking for more and a young guy with no money and student debt, despite a promising future, just couldnt keep up with the guys who were a little further along. Finding an attractive woman, with values, who wanted to build something with you seemed to be a pipe dream. Dont get me wrong, there were plenty of women who were quality but without attraction to them, you arent going to choose her as a wife. Let me also say that I consider myself humble and thankful for everything I have and my definition of attractive isnt off the charts realistic but that being said, a woman must inspire on some level.
Fast forward and the business grows I pay back my loans but here I am age 35, no wife, no kids, and I want to be a family man. Long story short is I start dating a woman who is my age, from a family unit like mine, off the charts attractive, and wants to be a mom. After 6 months of dating I move her into my home. At the time I met her I had been dating women who were just horrible self centered people. They cared about no one but themselves. It was all about what can you do for me. The successful strong women that I preferred were all into their careers and did not want kids until they were 40 and they realized it was too late. I didnt want that.
After moving the woman into my house, we were married soon after. She got pregnant the first month and over the next 2.5 years we had two daughters. After the last child she refused more kids. She had everything given to her and was a stay at home mom. While the sex wasnt great, it wasnt a huge issue. This is when the change began. She refused to clean the house, spent her evenings at the gym(while I gladly watched the girls), and the sex stopped. Within 4 years of marriage she literally didnt come to bed at night and we were living seperate lives. I would work all day, I never heard from her, and when I came home, we would eat but within 5 minutes of sitting down, she would finish, get up with the kids, bathe them and put them to bed and she was then in front of her laptop until 2am at night. Any inquiries about what she was doing was met with disdain and me being told it was her way to relax.
Once this scenario began after 4 years of marriage, I was smart enough to know something wasnt right but here I was a working guy with a stay at home wife and two young daughters. I talked to lawyers about divorce and it became clear that getting equal custody of my kids was not likely because the judges in my jurisdiction didnt believe in equal custody when the kids were young and the mom was stay at home. Im sure my wife knew this and she began to slowly try to isolate me from my kids. I knew if I wanted to have an equal opportunity to raise my girls, I had to stay in the home for awhile, bond with them and see what could happen. The last thing I wanted was a divorce, but I was not basically living with someone who wouldnt talk to me, refused sex, and ran up the credit card every month while I saved every dime I made.
Over time it got worse and I wondered why my wife would be up until 2am every night on a computer and not be able to keep even a slightly clean house. My personal stuff began to be destroyed and the disrespect was off the charts. I am not some asshole who expects my wife to be this perfect person and bow down to me but when Im out earning so she can be a stay at home mom, you should communicate, have sex on occasion, and keep the house clean. It was even more frustrating as everything in the home was mine because I owned and decorated it before she moved in.
Finally after 8 years in, the last four being barely roommates with all the bills paid by me, I told her I wanted a divorce. I did this after first agreeing to counseling(it was horrible and I quit after two sessions as it was hate the man 101-men dont ever go to counseling because if you do its because your marriage is already shot and that just reminds you of it while some self righteous person slowly removes you from your wallet) and just seeing her blame me for all the lack of communication.
This is where I made mistakes but also got lucky which helped me get equal custody of my kids. Once I told her I wanted a divorce she said we werent ready yet and didnt want one but I held firm and told her how I felt. We now had to decide who would move and who would stay in the home(remember this is a home I had before I met her that I took care of and then watched her destroy it once she moved in). WE both lawyered up and the demands from her lawyer were insane. Tons of child/spousal support with me being allowed to see my girls two overnights per month. I was livid as I was a good dad, an earner, and she had nothing on me regarding violence, drinking, or financial mismanagement. The money saved was huge.
Needless to say this caused huge tension. I was now up to speed on divorce laws and it seemed I stood to lose everything I worked for plus have to pay her to sit on her ass and rarely see my kids. She knew it as well and slowly began to isolate me from my girls and made it clear I would see them rarely if it all.
I soon realized that I needed to leave the home. She knew if I stayed the assets were continuing to increase and she could spend freely and live the leisure life while my anger continued to grow. I learned if she made it to 10 years marriage she would get my social security once I dropped dead from stress and anger at age 50. This is where I was headed due to my high stress job and anger at wife over the deception she was making me live day to day.
This is where it gets better…..
While we stayed in the home not speaking but clearly going to divorce, her behavior got even more bizarre. She started pushing my buttons trying to provoke anger and violence. We had never argued or yelled during our time married. Long story short is one morning I walked into the kitchen and tripped over a mess that our fancy dining room had become because she used it to stack stuff like a hoarder. As I picked myself up off the ground I opended a tiny basket and I found a hand held recording device. It turns out she had been taping our conversations and interactions in the home for months trying to provoke me into violence to get me out of my own home.
Once the realization of this betrayal sunk in I started making plans to leave the home before I did get violent and she destroyed or stole more of my personal stuff. Once I told her I wanted a divorce lots of my personal stuff started disappearing. It wasnt overly valuable stuff but it was personal to me. I soon realized I had no pictures of my kids. While I was at work, the kids and mom went on playdates and she had pictures of the kids since birth. I found two flash drives on the table near her laptop and took them one evening while she was at the gym and thinking they were pictures I went to copy them. I soon found out what she was likely doing late at night and all day while I Was at work earning. The flash drive did not contain pictures but instead massive volumes of sex writings where Harry Potter characters were having graphic sex with each other and characters made up by my wife, some named after our two daughters. I was heartbroken. Instead of being a wife, she spent her days and nights writing porn fantasies with hogwarts and other freaky stuff. The flash drives contained 10000 pages(no exaggeration) of this crap writing written the last 2 years of our marriage. I am sure there was more but this was all I found.
I did not tell her I found her recording device or porn drives but she knew and it was fun watching her panic in the house wondering where they were. Here was this perfect soccer mom who showed no interest in sex with me wondering what I knew about her secrets.
I soon moved out without telling her. I had buddies and a moving truck show up at the house one morning to move out my stuff I had before I met her from my house I had before I met her. She called the Sheriff and they allowed her to decide what I left with. Think about the emotional damage of leaving a home you owned before you met her and having a local yokel tell you you cant have your pre marriage property. Total nightmare.
People ask why do you leave your own home? If you are successful and build up assets you are going to lose it so I wanted to give up the home and get a fresh start. I was not abandoning my family as I bought another house soon after leaving right around the corner in prep for the custody battle.
Over the next year I was dictated to when I could see my girls until we could get a court date for custody. The emotional trauma was off the charts as I continued to have to work while she didnt work and did all she could to empty the bank accounts before I left.
Despite having volumes of porn written by this perfect woman, my own lawyer told me I wasnt likely to get equal custody of my girls and every other weekend was the likely result(4 days a month is not being an equal parent). Wife forced me to trial and thousands of dollars spent. I didnt behave perfect in court as I watched her lawyers argue I shouldnt have equal custody because I was hard working and successful My ex at age 40 was middle aged and couldnt work according to them. She had a 4 year college degree, a job when I met her(that she quit soon after meeting me). If I had written all that porn with my kids names in it, I would have gotten supervised visits. The double standard in family court is insane and the lawyers were shocked that I got equal custody. In my mind the wife was lucky to get equal custody. The judge just couldnt get past the porn with her own kids names in it.
To summarize the divorce it was a different story. I got taken to the cleaners and in addition to losing tons of assets I have to pay her a ton a month in spousal support and child support. She sits in a paid for home with no car payment and does not work. My job has gotten harder and less profitable and I am basically a slave barely paying my own bills while she tries to emotionally destroy her own girls with counseling sessions and ADD testing. The bottom line is a woman can do anything she wants once you marry her and if you dont want to take it you pay her for the privilege of leaving.
That was three years ago and while I have a healthy relationship with my kids, the court system is set up to isolate men from their kids and money. I got lucky to find one of the wifes habits but I didnt find it all and she was probably cheating as well as I watched her guard her pocketbook and phone with her life before I left.
I do not speak to my ex and will not since I left. Why would any man want to put themselves in a situation where even after you divorce you are dealing with such crap on a day to day basis while you struggle financially. If a man does not have assets hes at an even worse disadvantage to fight.
This is where the MGTOW issue is tough. Most men my age are of a generation where people married and had kids. Yes there was lots of divorce but even back then it was rare compared to now. Its easy for me to preach as I am blessed with two kids but if you are a young guy you have a real dillema.
I will never remarry and women now only really have value for sex. I have never hired a hooker but that is basically what women have become. Hookers. You pay them money and you might get sex. You treat them nice and they will manipulate you emotionally. Who needs that. If she cannot give you children why even talk to her. IF she can and you want them, you have a real tough time ahead. If you marry her and she does not give them to you, at what point do you leave or move on to minimize the financial hit. If you do get them at what point is it worth having kids when she will keep them from you and destroy you financially at all turns. This is the modern day american woman. Self absorbed and self entitled with the full backing of our legal system to do what she wants even if you do everything a man should do when it comes to working and providing for a family.
Because of my belief system given to me by my parents, it took courage to leave a marriage. How bad does it have to be to leave someone when you have young children and dont even have a replacement woman. I left to be alone and it is better than staying where I was in a dead stagnant life. You can have all the money in the world but if you are being emotionally abused and disrespected, on top of being lied to, why stay and be miserable. You can line your coffin with 1000 dollar bills if you want.
I am mentally healthier now than I ever was. I go places and I do things and I dont answer to a woman. I date on my terms and dont feel slightly bad if I stop talking to a woman soon after I have sex with them. I dont seem to lack women and they seem to be everywhere even if they arent all gorgeous. I am not getting any younger or better looking. My house is clean and decorated the way I like and I dont catch crap for it.
Where this is really important is how you need to be emotionally strong as you age. It wasnt easy being married 8 years(too bad for her she didnt make it 10) and then divorcing in my mid 40s but I see these harpies stick around as long as they can, divorce a man when he has been married 20 years, on the wrong side of 50, and left broke or stuck with a life time of alimony after he has spent his life paying to raise his kids. These women are heartless and use you when you are emotionally vulnerable. If you allow yourself to get locked into a marriage and dont get the write advice, you end up destroyed before you get to enjoy any part of your life.
If you want kids, have them young or flat out tell the woman you wont have them in a marriage relationship. I still wrestle with that as I was raised to believe in family yet I watched my dad die of cancer after being married 40 years getting to enjoy nothing and knowing he stayed because he was from a generation that needed a woman to take care of him.
Once you sort our the kids or no kids issue for yourself, hopefully at a young age when you are broke, MGTOW is the best way to be for a happy healthy full life. The stories I read on here break my heart and I am mad at myself for failing to be mature enough to get married and have kids young but in many ways thankful I didnt. Women are horrible creatures and know exactly wha they are doing. They kill you without you even knowing it. Atleast a man who wants to kill me will come right at me and be honest with his intentions.
I am done playing a non winnable game. I will be stuck with child support for a few more years, but my daughters are going to come live with me full time soon as I am teaching them what their mother is doing to them. I hope they will be able to have families of their own but for that to happen they need to treat a man well as the good ones will be MGTOW as they get educated at a younger age because there are sites like this to teach them. My fear for my daughters is they will have kids with a bad dad outside of marriage and I may have not set a good example by leaving, but I fought for them and now must fight for me.
I wish everyone the best and know that there are men out there who share your views and that we live in a system that is anti man, anti family, and filled with feminists who offer nothing but hate. Until we learn to stand up these type of people by putting ourselves first, its only going to get worse.
Welcome and thank you for sharing what must be painful to discuss. This is the world feminists fought for. They got the monster they created and have succeeded in pushing more and more men away. Marriage has become an outdated concept based on a fallacious belief rooted in the past. I am sorry you had to go through so much pain to learn the truth, but you are not to blame. You have found a safe harbor among other men. Glad you found us.

Anonymous0WOW, George Best,
That is by far the most heartfelt and honest assessment of the plight of Western men today. What I see is an anger at the situation that is beyond the red pill rage. By that I mean a mature grasp of the facts. A willingness to take a stand. I agree that the best way to proceed is to give women nothing until they smarten up, probably not in our lifetime though. Look forward to your posts. You will fit in well here. We are not fire breathing radicals but men who see things the way they are.
Welcome, BrotherI think that may have been the longest post on here that I have read from beginning to end. First of all, sorry you had to go through all of that. But I must say, I think that such stoic and detailed accounts of experiences such as yours are probably the best tool to prevent other men from falling into the marriage trap. Thanks for sharing, and good luck with everything!
Welcome!
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Very powerful story George Best. You are an inspiration to me and I hope you are an inspiration to many guys out there as well – you’ve learned the hard way. The lesson one might learn from your story is priceless!
welcome !
Greetings George Best.
Thank you for a great introduction. Your well written story will help men to understand what is really happening. It will validate men who are going through the same thing.
You are not alone.
Most divorced men that I know with daughters never have any spare cash or retirement, even into their seventies and eighties. I hope you can avoid their fate.
Nevertheless, it was good to read how you dodged the “Domestic Abuse” bullet which is a big scam and money making racket.
I look forward to reading your posts and feedback in the Forums.
All best wishes.

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?
Holy s~~~ George, that’s a powerful story. Thank you for sharing.
I can easily see the gravity of your history getting some younger guys to think twice.
And i’m glad you realized it does indeed get better. Welcome brother.
Welcome George. I’m sorry you had to find out the hard way, but many of us have. Your ex sounds scarily similar to mine, haha! I hope you are finding your new life rewarding.
QuietlyWelcome George. What a roller coaster you have been on? Your story is especially painful because of how well off you were before you fell into your pre-programmed self destruct mode.
I’m sorry for all that you’ve been through. Here’s to a better time forward.
I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.
I am 48 …almost 49….so many of us seem to be around the same age. Very interesting. It was very good to read your post, it makes me glad I never married. Yeah around the 35 mark I started regretting not having a son , but c’est la vie.
I am mentally healthier now than I ever was. I go places and I do things and I dont answer to a woman.
I am sorry to hear of all the stuff you have gone through, but I must tell you that the quote above put a smile on my face. It made my day – thanks!
Welcome to the Town of Testosterone – no womenz allowed!
"I care not what others think of what I do, but I care very much about what I think of what I do! That is character!"
~ Theodore RooseveltI am so sorry to hear about your story, sir. Al I coud do is thank you for describing your story in full length. I am a young guy and like many other young people, I need to draw wisdom from the experiences of elders. I know (don’t know) how painful it would have been to describe the exact events, but be rest assured that yur efforts have not been wasted. If not everybody, I can guarantee you that you have taught at least one boy the risks of marriage. I am very thankful and hope you enjoy the rest of the days in peace.
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

Anonymous3Hello George,
It’s very extreme how far extreme feminism is internalized by the laws there.I am shocked.(I’m not from US.) I mean, you had bought a house, paid for it, and probably paid for the interest rate, too, and worked hard in order to do that. The same about all the stuff inside the house. Those surely did cost many years of work. And then you had to leave, and the sheriff and the women decides what you can take.In such a situation, as a legal question, you can not use your own property, your previous house. But did she get some ownership rights? Or did you get any monetary compensation for that by any means? Or nope, just forget about your hard earned money?
And, I do not like the concept of spousal support. I mean, if the children are really ones cildren (no paternity fraud) they need to have some support to grow up (not some extreme money, though), but an ex wife who f*cked up your life? WTF?
I mean, I am really beginning to understand, what the starters of MGTOW have been through.
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