Why has "not caring about women" never made them attracted to me?

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

TaxGuy wrote:

WOTGM wrote:

I am still very cordial with everyone, women included, and try to be very friendly

You just answered your own question. You are ghosting. I do the same thing and I don’t have women standing in line to get to me. When you are an asshole to them, that’s when they get attracted to you.

This.

And I suggest, for your own health, to stop trying to be friendly and nice, espexially with people you don’t like. You’ll just end up frustrated and may get an ulcer for repressing your true emotions.
Also, many people can sense a fake and they’ll just ignore you anyway.
Just be a dick if you feel like being a dick and you will see two major improvements in your life, at least.
One, you will feel better, lighter, more co fident and more at ease.

Two, people will respect you more, and even if they like you less, they will either accomodate you or will get out of your way.

You will also see more pussy gravitating towards you, but this is not a benefit for a MGHOW.

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Faust For Science wrote:

Puffin Stuff wrote:

There are so many old wives tails about relationships…just be yourself???. Of course not caring about women means they won’t care about you. Women don’t approach men, no matter that we think they should do.

One main reasons not to care about women in general is because most women want their cake and eat it too.

Most women want to have every possible advantage in life and men to have suffer every possible disadvantage in life. Most women want all the rewards in life with no responsibilities, and for men to have only the responsibilities of life without any rewards.

This does not work. Eventually, the oppressed group quits working one way or another.

Let me correct you Faust – AWALT.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[OldBillParticipant]

WOTGM wrote:

It’s not really important but it’s just something I’ve been wondering about.

If it’s not important why are you even worried about it?

If memory serves, this is the second time you’ve raised this topic. While you’re claiming otherwise, it seems to be something important enough to you to create two threads.

Any thoughts?

Thoughts? Sure. You need to seriously examine why you feel the need to repeatedly ask this question.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[mystoryParticipant 370]

OldBill wrote:

seriously examine

In case you don’t care to admit your weakness, allow me to help.
Repeat after me: “I feel like a man whenever women display interest in me even though I’m a man in my own right. There is something seriously wrong with me.”

I don't need a legacy.. I don't need a monument.

[sjt1975Participant 2536]

Anonymous wrote:

Most of them are nasty and miserable by default.

That’s so true. The vast majority of women are boring aswell, in my opinion.

All of the time that I was in education, the only times that women were ever ‘friendly’ (non-genuine friendliness) towards me was whenever they wanted advice/help from me; and as you can guess, after I gave them what they wanted, I went back to being invisible to them again. This experience of women continued later on throughout my life. I got increasingly more and more frustrated and hurt by this behaviour of women; because I was always told that women were supposed to ‘want’ a Nice Guy like me, weren’t they? I never got any intimacy/sex from women. The ‘Blue Pill Programming’ was strong with me. Recently, having learnt the full truth about women and their behaviour/desires, and seeing women for what they really are, after consuming MGTOW material and hearing of many other guys’ experiences of women, I care less and less about women, and I want a relationship with a woman less and less, accordingly. I mean, it’s still a shame, but it’s pointless fighting reality (the Red Pill truth) and/or being Blue Pill; because you’d just lose, so why bother playing a losing game? I’m a Monk Mode male.

[ViciouscunningtreacherousParticipant 823]

Back from harvest gents…
Alright. This is a good topic and every post has high merit. I truly understand the OP and his question. I think the answer to his conundrum is that he is not as far down the path ad some others here are. I must say, I have great empathy for him ad I still have an insatiable sexual appetite even at my age (52). While I continue to recognize more and more of what you men have seen, and find myself down this road ever further, I still want the passion. Not just sex. Passion. Desire. Symmetry. On the path the signs are clear and legible. Yet I still find myself trying not to believe what the writing on them says. So, possibly, is he doing this too. I have posted similar topics, mostly out of frustration. I get the logic of old bill. I value his stoicism. However, maybe some of us just can’t get to where he’s at? Sometimes I feel that way too. I still want women, but more accurately, I want to be wanted by women. Succinctly, just one woman. Alas…reality dictates otherwise. In the final analysis, MGTOW seems to be all that we are left with. I think there are a lot of men here that are trying to reorient their lives to keep that red pill down only as a final protection mechanism. As a tangent of sorts, I love old radio shows from the 40’s and 50s. One is called “the adventures of Sam Spade”. In it he solves mysteries and is coming in contact with lots of women. Hot women that are the epitome of what we talk about here. He wants them but ultimately avoids them knowing what they will do to him. In the end all he’s left with is a drink of some sorts and sad reflections. It occurred to me this is what men’s lives boil down to. Yes. We are many and growing. But it doesn’t make it any better. Just more real.

For in much wisdom is much grief, and he who increases knowledge increases sorrow.

[sjt1975Participant 2536]

Viciouscunningtreacherous wrote:

In the final analysis, MGTOW seems to be all that we are left with. I think that there are a lot of men here that are trying to re-orientate their lives to keep that Red Pill down, only as a final protection mechanism. It occurred to me this is what mens’ lives boil down to. Yes, we are many and growing. But, it doesn’t make it any better. Just more real.

I agree with this, apart from the bit: “only as a final protection mechanism”. How much and at how many levels the Red Pill protects a particular man depends upon how MGTOW he is, i.e. how much and at how many levels he is MGTOW (i.e. is he just a Monk Mode man, abstaining from sex only, but otherwise still interacting with women; or is he the ultimate Ghost Mode man, abstaining from all human contact; or is he a Semi- Ghost Mode man, where he has an additional amount of withdrawal from human contact, beyond just withdraing from sex, but not total withdrawal from human contact).

Yes, I also used to want my “special girl”, that I was taught and hence thought was out there for me, who I thought I would find one day, i.e. my ‘Unicorn’, but after taking the Red Pill, I now know that there is no such girl out there for me, so what’s the point in believing in a lie? It’s very sad, but it’s the truth. No reasonable/sane can carry on being Blue Pill, whilst having Red Pill knowledge; unless he wants to shred himself, in the final analysis. So, I have given up trying to find my “special girl”, because she doesn’t exist, and knowing that she doesn’t exist, there is no point in bothering with women in any kind of romantic sense. No matter how painful, the truth must be accepted, and you must adjust to it and live with it, unless you want it to ultimately destroy you…

[rorickParticipant 682]

Like others said.. Only money, power and fame can make a woman drool over a guy. Else, its always the other way around.

BTW.. why should they be all over you .. they already have dozens of mangina’s and white knights rounding around them ready to even collect their s~~~s.. Be happy that you are invisible! It gives you peace of mind!

[ViciouscunningtreacherousParticipant 823]

Point taken.

Bullet points…
1. I realize that women have accounted for the majority of my life’s disappointments.
2. I also know that the greatest ecstasy in my life has come from a few women.
3. Short if professional racing, I’ve not had that again.
4. Now, happiness is throttled down so much that “it” seems pointless.
Life has taken on a blandness that , in itself is disappointing. I think that might be why he, the OP, is still wanting the attention. It is a powerful drug.

For in much wisdom is much grief, and he who increases knowledge increases sorrow.

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